MO - Six Mohler family members for child sex crimes, Bates City 2009 #4

[Texas Mist]

I couldn't find an email addy for Draper -- no wonder because apparently it's a secret.

I found this info on the AP's website -- http://www.ap.org/pages/contact/contact.html


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Jeez -- their reporters can write whatever they want to write, and there's no way to take it up with them directly...that stinks!

 

[Missizzy]

Concerning Bill Draper; he came under fire in 2005 for writing in a biased fashion concerning evolution:

http://www.evolutionnews.org/2005/02/kansas_ap_reporter_with_an_attitude.html



I think he must be based in Kansas City (still looking for confirmation) as here's a few totally unrelated articles which are based in KC which are written by Bill Draper:

http://www.usatoday.com/money/industries/retail/2008-08-28-bassinet_N.htm

http://www.charlotteobserver.com/2010/03/17/1318958/mo-hog-giant-gets-community-backing.html

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/storie...OL-?SITE=KMIZTV&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT



Hmmmm...here's an article I don't think we've seen. It's concerning a hospital worker charged with child , also written by Mr. Draper:

http://www.kansas.com/2010/02/25/1197959/hospital-worker-charged-with-child.html

"University of Kansas Medical Center officials were shocked Wednesday by reports that a respiratory therapist who worked there told federal agents he inappropriately touched at least one child and one adult.

Michael D. Toal, 55, of Kansas City, Mo., was charged late Tuesday with producing child and attempting to distribute child over the Internet. He remained in federal custody Wednesday and is seeking to have an attorney appointed for him.

Besides having access to children at the Kansas City, Kan., hospital, Toal also briefly served as a volunteer last year for an agency that advocates for abused children involved in the state court system....."

more at link

(we missed that one!!)



Here's a list of his recent articles:

http://labs.daylife.com/journalist/bill_draper?js=1

 

[Texas Mist]

Yes, Wintergreen, the woman is now an adult and is now divorced from her husband, a physician back east. If you'll go to the thread about Garn, I believe that there is a link to an article concerning many of her issues. I have no doubt the woman has "issues". To me, that's not the point. The point is that she was not listened to, even after several outcries. Being that she accepted the hush money, IMO, demonized her. It is said that she was addicted to prescription meds. How many victims do we know who are? The entire debacle is sickening. The Utah house embraced their representative and lauded his family and his fine work while forgetting that we are talking about the victimization of a child. I'm still stuck on the original article's confusion about dates. She was either 13 or 15 but but either way, she was a child and he was her boss. He knew what he did was wrong.

It's interesting that you bring up the issue of the child arrest in Blue Springs. I believe that two of the Mohlers showed up in that very area. I'll go back and check. IIRC, Roland might have been near there. And if I'm not mistaken, one of the alleged victims (that's getting harder to type) serves in LE in that area.

I noticed that the female reporter commented that neighbors had been tipped off to the possibility of this man's involvement in child by a person in LE. My first thought was that whoever that was, he/she was trying to protect the children in the area while an investigation was ongoing. Good for them.

Can anyone read what the arrestee's T-shirt says? I'm curious. Notice again, please, how "nice" the neighborhood is. It looks like anyone's idea of wholesomeness. Well, look what was lurking inside that "nice" house.

Concerning the lack of local coverage, I feel that there has to be some sort of GOB networking going on. I've shared, before, that our local paper was very biased against our children IMO as the editor was a friend of the rapist's family. I'm hoping that if we have any local WSers, they will write letters to the editor demanding better coverage.

As the arrest of this criminal proves, the public needs to be kept up to date on investigations to keep our children safe. They also need to be able to gauge for themselves their reaction to the Mohler trial. The Mohlers were well-respected men within their community. While it is hard to recognize and accept the fact that one might have been friends or neighbors or attended church with a child rapist, there is nothing to be gained by keeping one's head in the sand.

Our children's safety depends on the truth being told.

I can read Missouri & Tigers....Tigers = mascot for Blue Springs HS -- http://www.eteamz.com/bluespringstigers/

 

[Texas Mist]

Concerning Bill Draper; he came under fire in 2005 for writing in a biased fashion concerning evolution:

http://www.evolutionnews.org/2005/02/kansas_ap_reporter_with_an_attitude.html



I think he must be based in Kansas City (still looking for confirmation) as here's a few totally unrelated articles which are based in KC which are written by Bill Draper:

http://www.usatoday.com/money/industries/retail/2008-08-28-bassinet_N.htm

http://www.charlotteobserver.com/2010/03/17/1318958/mo-hog-giant-gets-community-backing.html

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/storie...OL-?SITE=KMIZTV&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT



Hmmmm...here's an article I don't think we've seen. It's concerning a hospital worker charged with child , also written by Mr. Draper:

http://www.kansas.com/2010/02/25/1197959/hospital-worker-charged-with-child.html

"University of Kansas Medical Center officials were shocked Wednesday by reports that a respiratory therapist who worked there told federal agents he inappropriately touched at least one child and one adult.

Michael D. Toal, 55, of Kansas City, Mo., was charged late Tuesday with producing child and attempting to distribute child over the Internet. He remained in federal custody Wednesday and is seeking to have an attorney appointed for him.

Besides having access to children at the Kansas City, Kan., hospital, Toal also briefly served as a volunteer last year for an agency that advocates for abused children involved in the state court system....."

more at link

(we missed that one!!)



Here's a list of his recent articles:

http://labs.daylife.com/journalist/bill_draper?js=1

I can see why he came under fire -- reporting opinion as fact, which is what he did w/ his recent article re: Mohler pervs ....that's the exact reason that article chapped my hide.

IA that he seems to be based in KC...pretty much everything I've read covers the KC/metro area & midwest.

As far as all the recent CP busts, maybe KS & MO LE are using the latest software for tracking these creeps....I'll go find the link & post it here in a bit.

ETA -- here's a map of computers w/ CP

here's the link to story -- http://www.nola.com/crime/index.ssf/2009/11/post_73.html

and another story related to using techology in this series of articles from nola.com

-- but a warning, it's upsetting to read this story

http://www.nola.com/crime/index.ssf/2009/11/post_72.html

 

[Missizzy]

Lord help me, I hope he's not a teacher!! Still no name?

 

[Missizzy]

I know it's a tsunami but I do think that LE is riding hard on their tails. That was hard to read.

Oh.....the diary. Heartbreaking. That's a big trigger for me as my mom, who has sexually abused by her father (a lay minister in the Baptist church and the school bus driver--very well-respected man in their community) wrote about her abuse in her diary. I never saw it as she burned it on the day she went away to Baylor.

This also reminds me of the little Mohler girls writing down their pain.

 

[Missizzy]

I hadn't seen this comment, concerning the recent arrest in Blue Springs.

http://www.examiner.net/news/x99760121/Blue-Springs-man-raided-for-child-🤬🤬🤬🤬

"A task force officer identified the location as a hub of distributing child , according to authorities."

 

[Texas Mist]

Lord help me, I hope he's not a teacher!! Still no name?

I doubt we'll get a name until they file charges....I hope there's no kids in that house....I always worry about that when they bust these CP scumbags.

LE seems to have their plates full between the CSA & CP investigations in western MO.

 

[Missizzy]

Concerning the recent article about Sr. appearing in court by Sean Comer. It looks like his earlier articles on the Mohlers are available in their entirety on the web. Maybe they embargo them for a short while to sell more papers. He wrote an in-depth article I don't remember seeing last November:

http://www.richmond-dailynews.com/news.php?id=3862

We need to remember to keep checking back. I have to wonder about SMohler showing up. She's still legally married to the man, correct? But she found the and turned it over to LE and had already banished him to the basement.

Maybe, just maybe, she's showing up to bear witness for the victims, her step-grandchildren. You know, we've never determined who the "disabled woman" was who was stated as living at the house with Sr. and SMohler. I can't seem to forget that as I worry about her.

 

[Missizzy]

I suggest everyone read part of the NPR expose on the compound in Washburn, MO:

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=6632499&ps=rs

After reading all the Probable Cause docs in the Mohler case and reading the book about Jeffrey Lundgren, "Prophet of Death: the Mormon Blood-atonement Killings", I cannot tell you how many many parallels I see. If you've followed this case for a while, you'll know them when you see them. And they'll make your stomach turn.

 

[Missizzy]

Playing devil's advocate for a minute over here; why would the press not bring up the recent dropping of all charges in the Washburn, MO Baptist compound case? There's so many similarities and many willing accusers (including husbands) and yet the case literally crumbed due to technical problems.

I can't decide if it's truly because the victims chose not to testify or if the prosecutor actually missed dates for depositions. Something strikes me as fishy here. I would think that supporters of the Mohler guys would be screaming about this case from the rooftops. And yet, until TM brought it up, I hadn't seen it linked to the Mohlers. Granted, it is a different faith...Baptist. But Washburn's only 200 miles away from Bates City and there's so many similar stories--some occurring at the same time of the Mohler allegations. Did Sr. go to school with Pastor Lambert and share ideas for their future grandchildren?

http://www.rickross.com/reference/grandview/grandview6.html

"Prosecutors allege that Lambert, 51, repeatedly had sex with two girls, both underage, between 1995 and 2005 with the help of his 49-year-old wife, Patty, as part of a "ritual or ceremony."

"Patty Lambert's brothers -- Paul Epling, 53, and Tom Epling, 51 -- are accused of repeatedly having sex with girls as young as age 4 in the late 1970s and early 1980s."

 

[Missizzy]

So of interest or just a coindidence? Martin Cordry, just arrested for producing child , in Sugar Creek, Mo--I recognized that town name. You know who comes up as 7 blocks away in Sugar Creek (pop. 3,800)? Burrell Mohler, Jr.

Now, Sugar Creek straddles Clay and Jackson Counties. The Mohlers want their trial in Clay County, which is has a much higher population. Does anyone know if this address (comes up on Whitepages on Lexington St.) is where Burrell was living with his most recent wife (#3 or 4) and their children?

Did I just say children? Seven blocks? Hmmm.

So, Cordry was arrested in Dec. 2008 and was just indicted. I have no idea if this is connected but another male Cordry in Sugar Creek (10 years younger) died in late August of 2008. No cause of death given.

And why is Cordry being held in Bates County Jail if Sugar Creek is in Jackson County. Is it because he's under federal indictment?

 

[Missizzy]

Sugar Creek was driving me crazy. I knew that we'd discussed something that happened there. I guess I didn't realize that Burrell was arrested there. Here's a post (#478) of mine pulled from the second thread. This link was provided to me by the woman who is writing a book about the disappearance of Randy Leach. Just another strange occurrence in the area:

"SUGAR CREEK, Mo. The identification of the bodies of Sam and Lindsey Porter in a heavily wooded area in Sugar Creek has brought attention to a 1988 murder that happened there.

Police said over the decades, the woods off of Cement City Road have become notorious as a body dumping ground. A half-dozen bodies have turned up there, dating back to a gangster hit in the 1970s. Perhaps none of them are stranger than the cold case of Kathy Webb, murdered Jan. 15, 1988.

Investigators found the body of Kathy Webb, 26, one mile from where the Porter children were found. The murder changed the life of her 8-year-old daughter, now a mother herself.

"She was beautiful and young," Shalonda Webb said of her mother. "[It] made my life a living hell. I got a 1-year-old son and I got a daughter on the way who will never know their actual grandma."

Kathy Webb was five months pregnant when she was stabbed 96 times, beaten and choked to death.

"Right here was the crime scene that we processed at the time," said Detective Sgt. Steve Topi. "It's a pretty desolate area out here."

Kathy's sister, Patsy Roberts, added, "This is Kathy. She's our baby sister. This is Anita, who was killed in 2000."

Both sisters were murdered on Jan. 15, but 12 years apart.

"Her sister was found in Kansas City, Kan., Jan. 15, 2000," Sgt. Rick DeFelice said. "Exactly to the day 12 years. Both murdered in similar fashion."

"I think Anita tried to find out who murdered her sister and that might be what got her murdered," Roberts said.

Police say there is no evidence linking the case, but they have reopened Kathy Webb's cold case and are using new DNA technology to try to track the killer.

"We're not going to forget this case and we are going to put somebody in jail over it," Topi said.

For Kathy's daughter, she wants to see the killer in jail.

"Whoever did it, I hope they suffer," Shalonda Webb said. "I hope they spend the rest of their life in jail."

 

[Missizzy]

Kathy Webb's body was found about 1 1/2 miles from Burrell's last address and a little less than that from Martin Cordry's address. Kathy was found dead on Jan. 15, 1988. She was 26 years old and pregnant and stabbed 96 times. Randy Leach disappeared April 15-16th, 1988 from a party in De Soto, KS, 40 miles away from Sugar Creek.

The Mohler girls reported that they went with their father to kidnap a man from the Independence Center, 8 miles from Sugar Creek, who was later stabbed repeatedly and strangled by their disclosure.

Just sayin'

 

[Texas Mist]

Concerning the recent article about Sr. appearing in court by Sean Comer. It looks like his earlier articles on the Mohlers are available in their entirety on the web. Maybe they embargo them for a short while to sell more papers. He wrote an in-depth article I don't remember seeing last November:

http://www.richmond-dailynews.com/news.php?id=3862

We need to remember to keep checking back. I have to wonder about SMohler showing up. She's still legally married to the man, correct? But she found the and turned it over to LE and had already banished him to the basement.

Maybe, just maybe, she's showing up to bear witness for the victims, her step-grandchildren. You know, we've never determined who the "disabled woman" was who was stated as living at the house with Sr. and SMohler. I can't seem to forget that as I worry about her.

These men’s crimes likely didn’t stop at family, Alumbaugh said.

“We believe that there are other victims out there,” he said. “Anybody that knows anything about child sex cases knows that exploitation of children is done quite a bit through the Internet.”

and

“There has been indications there is a body or bodies at various locations,” he said. “All the training I’ve had, pedophiles rarely stop at one.”


You're right -- we must not have seen this article before or we'd have discussed the above.....I've never seen Alumbaugh quoted as referring to the perps as pedophiles, have you?

I agree it sounds as tho SMohler is there to see that Sr. gets what's coming to him....GB her for turning in the incest to LE.

 

[In da Middle]

So of interest or just a coindidence? Martin Cordry, just arrested for producing child , in Sugar Creek, Mo--I recognized that town name. You know who comes up as 7 blocks away in Sugar Creek (pop. 3,800)? Burrell Mohler, Jr.

Now, Sugar Creek straddles Clay and Jackson Counties. The Mohlers want their trial in Clay County, which is has a much higher population. Does anyone know if this address (comes up on Whitepages on Lexington St.) is where Burrell was living with his most recent wife (#3 or 4) and their children?

Did I just say children? Seven blocks? Hmmm.

So, Cordry was arrested in Dec. 2008 and was just indicted. I have no idea if this is connected but another male Cordry in Sugar Creek (10 years younger) died in late August of 2008. No cause of death given.

And why is Cordry being held in Bates County Jail if Sugar Creek is in Jackson County. Is it because he's under federal indictment?

BBM

FYI Sugar Creek is not part of Clay County. It is entirely in Jackson County. Clay County is north of the Missouri River and Jackson County is south of the river.

ETA the river path has been changed through history by Corps of Engineers for flood management, so some historical maps may show a little different path, but Sugar Creek is still in Jackson, not Clay.

 

[Missizzy]

Texas Mist--You know why I don't think we saw the article? I think it was just like the recent one....a teaser and then that's it. We need to remember to keep checking back on this. I've scoured all I can and can't find any link to the full article anywhere.

I checked and we must have read a similar comment here, though...

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nat...used_victims_continues_at_missouri_prope.html

http://www.truecrimereport.com/2009/11/burrell_edward_mohler_sr_and_h.php

"Though police aren't saying how K participated in the rapes, the investigation is expanding to include more victims. The initial victims mentioned were five girls and one boy, all from the same family. But police have apparently found more, though they haven't said whether they were related to the Mohlers or not.

K is charged with raping a child under age 14.

It looks like detectives are a long way from wrapping up their case. They're still searching for one or more bodies possibly buried on the Mohler family land, and they seem certain more victims will surface.

"I believe that there is, and I believe every investigator here, after seeing the evidence, believes there's more victims," Lafayette County Sheriff Kerrick Alumbaugh told CNN. "Pedophiles don't stop at one."

LK was released 24 hours after he was arrested. He says he never even met any members of the Mohler family and that it was likely a mistake because he knows one of the victims. Detectives are no longer looking at him as a suspect."



I truly wonder if that's the end of the story for LK? I have a feeling that when we first read this, we were so focused on LK, that we missed the other comments. Those are some mighty strong statements.

 

[Missizzy]

Concerning Sugar Creek, I was going off this info:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sugar_Creek,_Missouri

"Sugar Creek is a city in Clay and Jackson counties in the U.S. state of Missouri. The population was 3,839 at the 2000 census."

Is this info not correct?

I've always wondered why the men were originally lodged in the Lafayette County Jail--not Clay or Jackson. Does anyone remember why? Sr. is now in Clay County Jail, I'm assuming due to his COV. Burrell Jr.'s still in Lafayette. Roland's listed as present at both Jackson and Lafayette (??).

Looks like Darrel, Jared, and David have bailed. Do I have this right, TM?

 

[CHICANA]

Concerning Bill Draper; he came under fire in 2005 for writing in a biased fashion concerning evolution:

http://www.evolutionnews.org/2005/02/kansas_ap_reporter_with_an_attitude.html



I think he must be based in Kansas City (still looking for confirmation) as here's a few totally unrelated articles which are based in KC which are written by Bill Draper:

http://www.usatoday.com/money/industries/retail/2008-08-28-bassinet_N.htm

http://www.charlotteobserver.com/2010/03/17/1318958/mo-hog-giant-gets-community-backing.html

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/storie...OL-?SITE=KMIZTV&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT



Hmmmm...here's an article I don't think we've seen. It's concerning a hospital worker charged with child , also written by Mr. Draper:

http://www.kansas.com/2010/02/25/1197959/hospital-worker-charged-with-child.html

"University of Kansas Medical Center officials were shocked Wednesday by reports that a respiratory therapist who worked there told federal agents he inappropriately touched at least one child and one adult.

Michael D. Toal, 55, of Kansas City, Mo., was charged late Tuesday with producing child and attempting to distribute child over the Internet. He remained in federal custody Wednesday and is seeking to have an attorney appointed for him.

Besides having access to children at the Kansas City, Kan., hospital, Toal also briefly served as a volunteer last year for an agency that advocates for abused children involved in the state court system....."

more at link

(we missed that one!!)



Here's a list of his recent articles:

http://labs.daylife.com/journalist/bill_draper?js=1

We have a short thread on Toal, he was a CASA volunteer and getting ready to become a GAL.

 

[CHICANA]

Sugar Creek was driving me crazy. I knew that we'd discussed something that happened there. I guess I didn't realize that Burrell was arrested there. Here's a post (#478) of mine pulled from the second thread. This link was provided to me by the woman who is writing a book about the disappearance of Randy Leach. Just another strange occurrence in the area:

"SUGAR CREEK, Mo. The identification of the bodies of Sam and Lindsey Porter in a heavily wooded area in Sugar Creek has brought attention to a 1988 murder that happened there.

Police said over the decades, the woods off of Cement City Road have become notorious as a body dumping ground. A half-dozen bodies have turned up there, dating back to a gangster hit in the 1970s. Perhaps none of them are stranger than the cold case of Kathy Webb, murdered Jan. 15, 1988.

Investigators found the body of Kathy Webb, 26, one mile from where the Porter children were found. The murder changed the life of her 8-year-old daughter, now a mother herself.

"She was beautiful and young," Shalonda Webb said of her mother. "[It] made my life a living hell. I got a 1-year-old son and I got a daughter on the way who will never know their actual grandma."

Kathy Webb was five months pregnant when she was stabbed 96 times, beaten and choked to death.

"Right here was the crime scene that we processed at the time," said Detective Sgt. Steve Topi. "It's a pretty desolate area out here."

Kathy's sister, Patsy Roberts, added, "This is Kathy. She's our baby sister. This is Anita, who was killed in 2000."

Both sisters were murdered on Jan. 15, but 12 years apart.

"Her sister was found in Kansas City, Kan., Jan. 15, 2000," Sgt. Rick DeFelice said. "Exactly to the day 12 years. Both murdered in similar fashion."

"I think Anita tried to find out who murdered her sister and that might be what got her murdered," Roberts said.

Police say there is no evidence linking the case, but they have reopened Kathy Webb's cold case and are using new DNA technology to try to track the killer.

"We're not going to forget this case and we are going to put somebody in jail over it," Topi said.

For Kathy's daughter, she wants to see the killer in jail.

"Whoever did it, I hope they suffer," Shalonda Webb said. "I hope they spend the rest of their life in jail."

Sugar Creek is right next to Independence. I always considered them pretty much one and the same.