MO MO - St Louis, BlkFem 8-11, 54UFMO, in abandoned bldg, Feb'83 #2

[bearfossils]

Where are we with this case? Tell us, because I know there are dozens more like me who care about this Doe. We want information. There is a cluster of strong women who care about this Doe deeply and want need to find bless her with her identity. She is more than DNA. She is girl who her abuser was determined to obliterate her.

 

[lightofmine99]

Unfortunately, it seems we are waiting for (1) the right people to upload their DNA to genetic genealogy websites (2) the right people to come forward with what are probably long-held family secrets or suspicions (3) the perp to get arrested and have their DNA put into CODIS.

The good news is a lot of people probably got DNA kits for Christmas and at least some of their results will get sent to the right places. And every day someone out there gets a kit for their birthday or a "just because" occasion.

 

[lightofmine99]

NamUs was modified today!

 

[DS2021]

12 exclusions
View attachment 500688

No new rule outs

 

[Triss]

What exactly did they modify?

 

[lightofmine99]

What exactly did they modify?

I can't access my NamUs right now so I can't compare (and I also don't know how to find the old one to compare it to).

Hopefully CeCe got another hit or something. MOO.

 

[Sweetluv]

Age 8 to 11..at 5'5 or 5'6...pretty tall for that age range.
Think this is more closer to home rather than a stranger abduction. This little girl needs to be identified!!

 

[bearfossils]

Thinking of St. Louis Jane Doe today. You aren’t ever forgotten, sweet girl. We won’t stop until you are given your name back. Science has advanced so much— it is only a matter of time until we know who you are, and the name of the monster who killed you. You are so much more than the crime that cut your life short.

 

[bearfossils]

What can we do to help focus attention on this case? I know it is being worked on, but it would be nice if we could do something for our Doe— maybe have a celebration at her gravesite, or do something to focus on her life. I’d love to write a poem for her and share it with others, maybe have a way we could remember her, divorced from the violence perpetuated against her. I know her date of discovery has passed, but perhaps we could find a way to celebrate her life and make sure others don’t forget about her.

 

[Melt71]

Namus was updated on 7 May. No new exclusions, still the same 12.

 

[taramarie]

Namus was updated on 7 May. No new exclusions, still the same 12.

2 updates within one month. I feel like that’s good sign that something is happening!

 

[bearfossils]

I’ve been trying to locate our Doe’s gravesite but I’ve been having some trouble while digging through the information available online. The closest I can get are a few sites in Calvary Cemetery. Is anyone aware of the exact location of her remains? Or at least, a site where we can pay respect?

 

[Pigtail1]

I read recently they traced her genetic genealogy (to Tennessee or Alabama), but the family won't cooperate in dna testing. I can't find where or what I read though.

 

[Wilma_W]

I read recently they traced her genetic genealogy (to Tennessee or Alabama), but the family won't cooperate in dna testing. I can't find where or what I read though.

That information is in the documentary "Our Precious Hope: St. Louis' Little Jane Doe Revisited" - it is in an interview with CeCe Moore. (I believe the documentary also has information about where she is now buried.)

 

[bearfossils]

That information is in the documentary "Our Precious Hope: St. Louis' Little Jane Doe Revisited" - it is in an interview with CeCe Moore. (I believe the documentary also has information about where she is now buried.)

This has been reported before, and IIRC, the family members that were contacted didn’t want to be spoken to. Very much their right, but it’s incredibly painful to get so close to our Doe’s identity and not have an answer. I hope we can find Doe’s name without violating the privacy of others. She deserves to have her name known.

 

[Andreee]

This has been reported before, and IIRC, the family members that were contacted didn’t want to be spoken to. Very much their right, but it’s incredibly painful to get so close to our Doe’s identity and not have an answer. I hope we can find Doe’s name without violating the privacy of others. She deserves to have her name known.

yes very much their right of course, but IMO NOT COOL AT ALL!!!

 

[bearfossils]

yes very much their right of course, but IMO NOT COOL AT ALL!!!

It’s hurtful to us because of how we feel about Doe, but we have to remember that we aren’t her family— we have no clear or objective picture of the interpersonal relationships or connections Doe had in her life, for better or worse. We don’t know what the relatives of Doe, once or twice removed, had to endure in their lifetimes. We don’t know what her and her immediate family had to do to survive. We can only speculate about who she was based on what little evidence we are privy to.

Personally, I think the resistance to complying genetic geneology and related means of collecting and searching DNA might be indicative of ongoing abuse, whether it’s sexual, physical, emotional, etc., within Doe’s immediate and/or extended family. That’s pure speculation on my part, though.

 

[Regal Beagle]

This little one will be named one day, no matter who, what, when, where or why. She will get her chance to shine and know that she is loved. And she will never be forgotten again. Lots of love to you sweet girl, you deserved a better life than the one you were given.

 

[rosesfromangels]

This is one of the cases that has haunted me. The thought of a child slaughtered, beheaded, and left like garbage defies the laws of humanity. Whether people choose to cooperate or not, it appears LE is well down the DNA trail and we can all rest assured there will be justice. I know this child is referred to as St. Louis Doe, but I prefer to give her a more endearing moniker. I think of her as St. Louis "Cherished" Doe.

May justice be served. God Bless this Cherished Doe.

Amateur opinion and speculation

 

[Susikatze]

This is one of the cases that has haunted me. The thought of a child slaughtered, beheaded, and left like garbage defies the laws of humanity. Whether people choose to cooperate or not, it appears LE is well down the DNA trail and we can all rest assured there will be justice. I know this child is referred to as St. Louis Doe, but I prefer to give her a more endearing moniker. I think of her as St. Louis "Cherished" Doe.

May justice be served. God Bless this Cherished Doe.

Amateur opinion and speculation

Also I wish they still kept the adult pubic or arm hair found on her. That is certainly the perps hair