MS - Jessica Chambers, 19, found burned near her car, Panola County, 6 Dec 2014 - #10

[MSCJgrad]

I think her car was in fact her fathers, and presumably in his name as well. A few threads back we got into the details of who owned what, and I'm not certain, but I think I remember the car being her dads, and she had just gotten it back, recently.

Good question. I wonder if lighter and bottle of accelerant was found at the scene. Your theory is plausible but she still would have had another car there to get her home. And a friend would have came forward with the accidental reason by now. Jmo

 

[MSCJgrad]

Thanks for the breakdown. I can definitely see where you are coming from now, especially in regards to scatterbrained LE. I am still of the belief that it was something more sinister than a suicide, but at this point, any of these theories could be correct, or we could all be wrong. Ugh.

Breaking from what we might call 'the life' can't have been easy; old home and new job may have been scant consolation. If she in fact was not depressed at all about the sudden shift, I would be surprised. It's entirely human to be.

In what may be termed a bit of dark synchronicity, at the time I read this one I was trying to recall the classic English car fire death/possible suicide case from the '30s -- UK - Evelyn Foster's fiery 1931 demise; finally found and posted it.

As well, a 20-minute internet search produced over two dozen car fire suicides in the past several years. It sounds like something that doesn't happen often, and that's true. But it does happen more frequently than one would think.

And she was said to have purchased twice her normal amount of gas.

Finally, the solution is not currently disproved by either meager fact or copious rumor; and I do believe the truth can be conveniently withheld -- supposing my view is correct -- in order to save the reputations of perhaps-scatterbrained LE.

 

[Ms. Shagwell]

One thing for sure coming out of this press conference is that zero information will be released to the public until an arrest has been made and then zero information will be made public of any evidence that is sent to the grand jury ... the only info that will be released to the public is if the grand jury decides to take the case to trial, so we might as well sit back and relax until an arrest has been made and a trial occurs. Interesting that all agencies (FBI, ATF, MBI) that were 1st involved with the case are still involved.

One thing that I had to laugh about was his mention of arm chair quarter backing/theories by social media.

Agree. IIRC-This was also the situation with Jaren Lockhart's murder investigation while it was in the hands of the Hancock County (MS) LE. In fact, it wasn't until Sanchez and Speaks were charged with her murder by Jefferson Parish (LA) LE- two years after it happened- that we heard anything of cameras capturing Sanchez's car heading to the Kenner murder scene or leaving MS after Jaren's dismemberment. And the Hancock PD kept saying the same thing Champion is saying now- no new witnesses coming forward, few details, no new evidence, yada yada, and low and behold, it's all finally coming together just like we thought in the first months after Jaren's murder.

I think Panola LE knows a lot more than they're letting on. They might want to take a few pointers from our own Jefferson Parish Sheriff Newell Normand and challenge their residents to speak up. After shoot outs two days in a row with gun-brandishing drug dealers, Normand is asking those in his parish to wake up and report what's going on in their own neighborhoods before there is another shoot out on a major street in the middle of the day.

Everybody (all 600 residents?) in Courtland probably knows a little something that could help bring justice to Jessica's story. Unfortunately, what they know will probably uncover a lot more than just who murdered Jessica. -JMO.

 

[SteveP]

Here is most recent update/video mentioned above:

WATCH: John Champion discusses Chambers murder case on 4 month anniversary of her death
http://www.wmcactionnews5.com/Clip/...rder-case-on-4-month-anniversary-of-her-death
04/07/2015

LE still needs help with 630p-730p time frame. AA is still only publicly cleared person.

I know that many of us have complained that there have not been more regular updates in this case, but every time I see DA Champion doing a press conference or making a public statement, whatever tiny bit of hope that I still have that this case will be solved just disappears. I am trying not to seem judgmental, but absolutely nothing about him seems professional. From the way he always dresses for his appearances, as if he just stepped off of or is about to step onto a golf course, to the way he begins almost every sentence with "no, I mean", "yeah, I mean", or just "I mean", to the way the interviewer just addresses him as 'John'. I know things are probably a bit different in small towns, but surely he could dress the part of a DA and command enough respect to be called by something other than his first name. Surely there has to be someone on this case that would be a better spokesperson than Champion. I am also disheartened to learn that the only tips to have come in at all since the revised timeline was released a month ago were from "psychics and the crazies", to use Champion's own words. SMH

 

[ATasteOfHoney]

I know that many of us have complained that there have not been more regular updates in this case, but every time I see DA Champion doing a press conference or making a public statement, whatever tiny bit of hope that I still have that this case will be solved just disappears. I am trying not to seem judgmental, but absolutely nothing about him seems professional. From the way he always dresses for his appearances, as if he just stepped off of or is about to step onto a golf course, to the way he begins almost every sentence with "no, I mean", "yeah, I mean", or just "I mean", to the way the interviewer just addresses him as 'John'. I know things are probably a bit different in small towns, but surely he could dress the part of a DA and command enough respect to be called by something other than his first name. Surely there has to be someone on this case that would be a better spokesperson than Champion. I am also disheartened to learn that the only tips to have come in at all since the revised timeline was released a month ago were from "psychics and the crazies", to use Champion's own words. SMH

Regarding the point you brought up in your last sentence above, Steve....that should tell LE something very important; especially when there's a 50k+ reward out there. From a criminal profiler perspective, that should tell LE that the killer (s) are feared by the local community. And in a big way.
So either LE has zero pulse on the community & are oblivious to the perps who could impose such deadly silence due to their **past history** OR they have this solved & are just tidying up this case forensically for the Grand Jury's review soon. It is a very small town, county.

The killer(s) have a past that includes violence, arson, run-ins with the law. This is not their entrance into the rodeo. Nope. No way!

It's all about behavior (& those old leopard spots). Wink.

All moo & jazz

 

[wfgodot]

I know that many of us have complained that there have not been more regular updates in this case, but every time I see DA Champion doing a press conference or making a public statement, whatever tiny bit of hope that I still have that this case will be solved just disappears. I am trying not to seem judgmental, but absolutely nothing about him seems professional. From the way he always dresses for his appearances, as if he just stepped off of or is about to step onto a golf course, to the way he begins almost every sentence with "no, I mean", "yeah, I mean", or just "I mean", to the way the interviewer just addresses him as 'John'. I know things are probably a bit different in small towns, but surely he could dress the part of a DA and command enough respect to be called by something other than his first name. Surely there has to be someone on this case that would be a better spokesperson than Champion. I am also disheartened to learn that the only tips to have come in at all since the revised timeline was released a month ago were from "psychics and the crazies", to use Champion's own words. SMH

In a word -- yep.

 

[ATasteOfHoney]

This is the type of crime that reflects past behaviors & criminality. This should be easy in that little town/county. LE must know to look for someone with a record of violence, arson, escalating crimes. This is someone known to LE. The killer(s) first rodeo was a long time ago....probably when they were pre-teens.

Most importantly, with a $50k+ reward out there, LE knows who would have the power to deafen the town from talking----they know who can intimidate like that. And I think it's someone that has been on their radar for a very long time.

What I think LE is doing is making sure they bring to the Grand Jury a rock-solid, slam-dunk case. They also have to build a case against others for aiding/abetting, distributing narcotics, hampering an investigation, etc etc

All moo & that jazz

 

[New1]

I'm just wondering if LE has checked with local area hospital emergency rooms and they know who (if anyone) was treated for burns shortly after Jessica was murdered. It just crossed my mind that awhile back, if I'm not mistaken, they told people to be on the lookout for someone with singed eyebrows. Was that just gossip on social media, or did LE put that out there? And how would they know the killer singed his/her eyebrows unless they know someone went to the ER for burns? JMO

 

[samantha17]

This is fine and dandy as I'm thinking LE has zero clue about solving this case.

Oh, I definitely think they have plenty of evidence, but that evidence has to be strong enough to take the perp(s) to trial.

 

[samantha17]

I know that many of us have complained that there have not been more regular updates in this case, but every time I see DA Champion doing a press conference or making a public statement, whatever tiny bit of hope that I still have that this case will be solved just disappears. I am trying not to seem judgmental, but absolutely nothing about him seems professional. From the way he always dresses for his appearances, as if he just stepped off of or is about to step onto a golf course, to the way he begins almost every sentence with "no, I mean", "yeah, I mean", or just "I mean", to the way the interviewer just addresses him as 'John'. I know things are probably a bit different in small towns, but surely he could dress the part of a DA and command enough respect to be called by something other than his first name. Surely there has to be someone on this case that would be a better spokesperson than Champion. I am also disheartened to learn that the only tips to have come in at all since the revised timeline was released a month ago were from "psychics and the crazies", to use Champion's own words. SMH

That's the man's personality .... his choice of clothing and his personality are of no issue in this case .... he has to be very educated/smart getting a law degree from Ole Miss and being ELECTED by the voting residents of his district as attorney ..... he had to be very careful not to disclose any evidence in the interview. There are also many elected people in MS that prefer to dress casual ... it's a non-issue. I don't know how many people that post here are from MS, but those of you who are not from MS shouldn't judge anybody that's from MS concerning their choice of clothing or how they talk.

P.S. I was born in Memphis TN but was raised in MS from the age of 7 til I married a man that was raised in Panola Co, MS.

 

[samantha17]

This is the type of crime that reflects past behaviors & criminality. This should be easy in that little town/county. LE must know to look for someone with a record of violence, arson, escalating crimes. This is someone known to LE. The killer(s) first rodeo was a long time ago....probably when they were pre-teens.

Most importantly, with a $50k+ reward out there, LE knows who would have the power to deafen the town from talking----they know who can intimidate like that. And I think it's someone that has been on their radar for a very long time.

What I think LE is doing is making sure they bring to the Grand Jury a rock-solid, slam-dunk case. They also have to build a case against others for aiding/abetting, distributing narcotics, hampering an investigation, etc etc

All moo & that jazz

Exactly!

 

[MyBelle]

I know that many of us have complained that there have not been more regular updates in this case, but every time I see DA Champion doing a press conference or making a public statement, whatever tiny bit of hope that I still have that this case will be solved just disappears. I am trying not to seem judgmental, but absolutely nothing about him seems professional. From the way he always dresses for his appearances, as if he just stepped off of or is about to step onto a golf course, to the way he begins almost every sentence with "no, I mean", "yeah, I mean", or just "I mean", to the way the interviewer just addresses him as 'John'. I know things are probably a bit different in small towns, but surely he could dress the part of a DA and command enough respect to be called by something other than his first name. Surely there has to be someone on this case that would be a better spokesperson than Champion. I am also disheartened to learn that the only tips to have come in at all since the revised timeline was released a month ago were from "psychics and the crazies", to use Champion's own words. SMH

You are being judgmental. How a prosecutor chooses to dress outside of court has no reflection on his ability to prosecute a crime inside the courtroom. I know many attorneys who work in our judicial system and they dress casually outside of the courtroom. Jessica's murder has to be solved first by criminal investigators and evidence gathered so that he can do his job and present it to a grand jury. If the residents are offended, they can vote him out of office.

Another poster has concluded Jessica had no friends and that they haven't banded together yet her friends have maintained a facebook "Justice for Jessica" page that has over 150,000 likes. I really think it is time to stop blaming investigators because no arrest has been made. It isn't a cold case and Champion has never said there is no evidence.

JMO

 

[cady]

jmo I am not so sure that the JforJ site consists of JC's friends...I think that they are friends among themselves and friends of her sister. Others are just curious. One would think that her "friends" would have a pretty good idea about what her activities were, who she was seeing, what she worried about, and what her plans were, if she had any, and would impart that information to LE. Unless her yet-to-be-heard-from "friends" know or are somehow responsible for her death. Notice that we have heard nothing from whoever she may have befriended at Leah's house, and nothing from co-workers. I'm not suggesting that those people are involved, but I think that they probably know some things that have not been made public per request of investigators. JMO

 

[samantha17]

jmo I am not so sure that the JforJ site consists of JC's friends...I think that they are friends among themselves and friends of her sister. Others are just curious. One would think that her "friends" would have a pretty good idea about what her activities were, who she was seeing, what she worried about, and what her plans were, if she had any, and would impart that information to LE. Unless her yet-to-be-heard-from "friends" know or are somehow responsible for her death. Notice that we have heard nothing from whoever she may have befriended at Leah's house, and nothing from co-workers. I'm not suggesting that those people are involved, but I think that they probably know some things that have not been made public per request of investigators. JMO

I'm in total agreement.

 

[FelicityLemon]

The latest Panolian has front page article regarding the continued investigation of Jessica Chambers' murder.

http://www.panolian.com/editionview...b19&Page=037ecba9-89d6-4fa8-ad04-ba4c3a0198cb

 

[BirdycatNY]

Here is a local news article from the other day:

The Panolian
DA's timeline in Chambers' case missing one hour
By Rupert Howell
http://www.panolian.com/contentitem/391786/1180/breaking-news-3?hc_location=ufi

A few minutes before 6 p.m. she was at a residence in Courtland and left there.
At approximately 6:10 she was around Batesville in the Woodland-Highway 6 east area in southeast Batesville between Eureka Road and Highway 6.

Was this information provided before? One of the things that can be narrowed down is how far Jessica could have gotten locally to end up at crime scene at Herron Rd @731p (mapping it even on something like mapquest based on time/mileage). The other thing that can be ruled out is what roads JC was on if there are cameras along any streets and she was not located on cameras during missing time frame. Jmo/

FelicityLemon, I couldn't read your article because don't have a subscription, any chance you can provide synopsis? Tia

 

[MizStery]

DA Press Conference Synopsis
<snipped>
The question resides with the 6:30 to 7:31 hour~when they can put her vehicle at crime scene.
Referencing the hour 6:30 to 7:31:Jessica called her mother~this was the last known communication made from Jessica.They have no idea who she was with or where she called her mother from.

:cow:

1)I am making a correction in the wording of my post which is highlighted in red. I misquoted John Champion. He never said during the Video Press Conference they did not know who she was with. He said,"Investigators are not sure where (Jessica called her mother from)".

The last sentence in my paragraph should have read:
Referencing the hour 6:30 to 7:31:Jessica called her mother~this was the last known communication made from Jessica.Investigators are not sure where Jessica called & talked to her mother from.

2)The second correction is: I wrote in my post that John Champion said they could put her vehicle at Herron Road at 7:31. That is not what he said. He said,"They could put Jessica on the scene where she was found at 7:31." Nothing about her vehicle.

I am am sorry I put words in John Champion's mouth :blushing: As soon as I realized my errors I posted this correction.

:cow:

 

[BirdycatNY]

Sorry this is slightly OT but:

http://ktla.com/2015/04/07/sacramen...hter-in-flammable-liquid-setting-her-on-fire/
Article of a woman who doused her child and set child on fire, child thankfully survived. Possible reason? &#8220;Mom&#8221; allegedly had bad temper with child, verbally abusive, according to neighbor.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2952504/Mother-burned-three-children-death-rang-father.html
Here is an article of a woman who burned 3 of her children to death allegedly because dad sought custody of children. Possible motive(s)? &#8211; She took her anger at dad out on kids, if she couldn&#8217;t have access to children then dad couldn&#8217;t either (or may be mental health issues?).

Facts in above cases are different in Jessica Chambers case, but it just adds to other reasons/motives why people may commit immolation crimes: displaced anger and/or mental health issues.

CBC&#8217;s Fifth estate &#8220;Too Young to Lose&#8221;
http://www.cbc.ca/fifth/episodes/
http://www.cbc.ca/fifth/episodes/2014-2015/too-young-to-lose
(Interviews with young women who were targeted and forced into prostitution). It&#8217;s a very informative program about what is happening to girls and brutality of sex trafficking and criminal enterprises. If Jessica was involved in something like this, then it&#8217;s absolutely horrific and brutal. One of the young women interviewed talked about how she could not leave her &#8220;pimp&#8221; a gang member and was bound/threatened she would be killed if she did, another talks about how pimps lure girls through drug use. It made me think of &#8220;binding&#8221; rumors in JC's case. I know DA Champion stated Jessica led a "normal" life but imo JC had been in abusive relationships and potentially other dangers, i.e. drugs. All Jmo/

 

[FelicityLemon]

Here is a local news article from the other day:

The Panolian
DA's timeline in Chambers' case missing one hour
By Rupert Howell
http://www.panolian.com/contentitem/391786/1180/breaking-news-3?hc_location=ufi


Was this information provided before? One of the things that can be narrowed down is how far Jessica could have gotten locally to end up at crime scene at Herron Rd @731p (mapping it even on something like mapquest based on time/mileage). The other thing that can be ruled out is what roads JC was on if there are cameras along any streets and she was not located on cameras during missing time frame. Jmo/

FelicityLemon, I couldn't read your article because don't have a subscription, any chance you can provide synopsis? Tia

Oops, I'm sorry! I'll see what I can do :/ I hope this is okay to do.

 

[SteveP]

Sorry this is slightly OT but:

http://ktla.com/2015/04/07/sacramen...hter-in-flammable-liquid-setting-her-on-fire/
Article of a woman who doused her child and set child on fire, child thankfully survived. Possible reason? &#8220;Mom&#8221; allegedly had bad temper with child, verbally abusive, according to neighbor.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2952504/Mother-burned-three-children-death-rang-father.html
Here is an article of a woman who burned 3 of her children to death allegedly because dad sought custody of children. Possible motive(s)? &#8211; She took her anger at dad out on kids, if she couldn&#8217;t have access to children then dad couldn&#8217;t either (or may be mental health issues?).

Facts in above cases are different in Jessica Chambers case, but it just adds to other reasons/motives why people may commit immolation crimes: displaced anger and/or mental health issues.

CBC&#8217;s Fifth estate &#8220;Too Young to Lose&#8221;
http://www.cbc.ca/fifth/episodes/
http://www.cbc.ca/fifth/episodes/2014-2015/too-young-to-lose
(Interviews with young women who were targeted and forced into prostitution). It&#8217;s a very informative program about what is happening to girls and brutality of sex trafficking and criminal enterprises. If Jessica was involved in something like this, then it&#8217;s absolutely horrific and brutal. One of the young women interviewed talked about how she could not leave her &#8220;pimp&#8221; a gang member and was bound/threatened she would be killed if she did, another talks about how pimps lure girls through drug use. It made me think of &#8220;binding&#8221; rumors in JC's case. I know DA Champion stated Jessica led a "normal" life but imo JC had been in abusive relationships and potentially other dangers, i.e. drugs. All Jmo/

Champion's exact words were that Jessica was "just a normal teenager..." and that she was "leading a relatively normal lifestyle..." I trust that he doesn't really believe that. I don't even believe Jessica thought that, as she felt compelled to write a book and tell her story. Because this is a victim-friendly forum, I will only say that while she did nothing at all that could ever justify her heinous murder, if even a fraction of the allegations reported here and elsewhere about her life up until at least the time of her being sent to Leah's House, a home for troubled women, are true, I would not begin to classify that a "relatively normal lifestyle", at least not where I am from, and I think it is very likely that something, or someone, from some part of her "relatively normal" life is very probably directly responsible for her death. JMO