MS - Jessica Chambers, 19, found burned near her car, Panola County, 6 Dec 2014 - #7

[octobermoon]

Since we really have very little that we know is verifiable and the truth, all we can do is speculate. So what follows is my own speculation only: I absolutely think JC was a very sweet and loving young lady. But I also think JC was into drugs at some point now or in the past and perhaps had relapsed recently. I think that there is definite gang involvement and that drugs are distributed by said gangs. I think JC was believed to have betrayed the gang in some way, either through not associating with them, breaking up with a boyfriend, or stating that she was writing a book. I also think someone or something lured her to the "party," a euphemism for a group of people getting together to hang out, drink, do drugs, whatever. And I believe the intention was to hurt her or kill her, which they did in the most horrendous fashion. I base these opinions on some family experiences. I have a beautiful, shy, thoughtful niece who somehow ended up in the pain killer epidemic sweeping the country. None of us knew until very late in the game that she was an addict. But after exhausting the usual resources of doctors and ER visits, she began to hang out with a less than desirable crowd that no one had ever met before. Long story short, she is clean and sober now, but not before her husband died of an overdose, she was arrested for illegal drugs, she lost custody of her two children, and the person she had become most friendly with was put into prison for dealing and for gang related activity. I thank heaven every day that nothing horrific was done to her, as was done to JC. When gangs and drug money enter the picture, all morality, compassion, and respect for human life goes out the window. And beautiful, loving people become victimized. IMO, IMO, IMO.

:grouphug: I think you are right.

 

[octobermoon]

I agree. There seems to be a lot of finger pointing on social media and maybe that is the way these groups have communicated in the past. It's also possible the baiting is being down by LE, who are probably quite adept at it.

JMO

I don't think LE has to bait anyone. The crazy fools stalking facebook, spreading rumors on twitter is enough to fuel the blame game in the little town she lived. I just hope LE has someone savvy enough to deal with new media/social circles on the web. This whole case has become jr. high gossip with hackers and conspiracy theorists. I don't envy those in charge. Sorting out fact from fiction must be a 16 hour a day job.


My heart sank when I read her mother's post to the anonymous guy to leave her alone on the Justice for Jessica page.

 

[Talullah]

My eyes were opened as well. Reading the crime statistics and about the massive amounts of drugs and gangs. Being a teacher in a rural part of the state would be challenging.

At one time teachers relocated to the Delta and surrounding areas because the state/government forgave a pretty hefty portion (20% I think) of their student loan debt for in exchange for so many years of service.

 

[Ms Pragmatic]

Going to put my theory out. Feel free to dissect or whatever. I offer no proof of anything. These are my thoughts and my opinions only. I Have no guesses as to who actually committed this murder, simply because there are many people who have been interviewed that we don't know about. But this is what I feel may have happened because my gut is still telling me to go back to the beginning and, for me, that means Auntie.

I think Jessica left to do the things she said she was going to do. With her job and recent stay at Leah's, things were pointing up. Mom said she was either at work or home, unless she was across the street visiting. We really have no reason to believe she was drinking/using drugs/partying. She was well-liked. I have NOT read one thing negative said about this girl in any source. By all accounts, she was sweet, genuine and giving. She may have had issues in the past(whatever those were, we don't really know), but nothing in her recent behavior points to her having problems out of the norm right before she died. She was well-liked at work. So much so that her co-workers were having a very hard time talking about her. With all of that being said, I think she left home with good intentions.

I've read that she was a people pleaser. Always quick to help people out. Please read the comments from her friends and family on the Justice for Jessica page. People pleaser. And I think that was her undoing.

One person was hauled in for questioning early on because she was found to be on JC's phone. IMO, she wasnt hauled in right away simply because she was in JC's phone as she stated, but that she was the LAST person to have contact with JC. After watching both of the interviews with Auntie, I am convinced that she is vulnerable and could be easily manipulated with the promise of drugs. I think she was asked to get JC somewhere and promised drugs in exchange. I do NOT think Auntie knew what was going to go down. I think she was used as a lure to get JC somewhere. Perhaps she asked for a ride to or from somewhere and whoever wanted JC dead was waiting. I don't believe JC drove her car to where it was eventually found. I've never believed she drove herself to That spot on Herron. The car seats reclined. Parking brake on. She did not go there willingly.

Auntie knows what happened. Maybe not everything, but she knows who took JC to where she was found. I think when the poop hit the fan, this party story was concocted. Only I don't think there was a party, or at least one JC ever planned to attend. I think LE knows there was no party now and I fully believe they will continue to take auntie in for every little thing until she cracks. And I believe she will eventually. I've watched and re-watched her interviews and I think she knows something. Her addiction(in my speculation) has kept her quiet, as has her fear of the person(s) involved.

Anyway, that's what I think happened. Since I don't know who choked her, I can't say whether I think that person was involved. But I think DT knows who may have done the choking. Anyway, I had to put that out there because I've worked it over in my mind for a month now and this is where I am. lol

 

[swedie]

Has it been stated yet who Jessica had the "encounter" with the week before at M&M's? Do LE know and just not releasing a name or no one seems to know? I hope Jessica at least told one of her parents or a close friend about this "encounter". JMO.

 

[Ms Pragmatic]

My brother took a teaching position in rural North Carolina years ago and fought the curriculum for three years and then gave up. He said they were teaching below grade level and he wanted to raise the bar higher and he and fellow teachers butted heads with the powers that be and they were told those kids weren't college-bound so they needed to just get them through. My brother couldn't accept that and came back home to teach.

Sorry, this was in reply to tallulah

 

[octobermoon]

Going to put my theory out. Feel free to dissect or whatever. I offer no proof of anything. These are my thoughts and my opinions only. I Have no guesses as to who actually committed this murder, simply because there are many people who have been interviewed that we don't know about. But this is what I feel may have happened because my gut is still telling me to go back to the beginning and, for me, that means Auntie.

I think Jessica left to do the things she said she was going to do. With her job and recent stay at Leah's, things were pointing up. Mom said she was either at work or home, unless she was across the street visiting. We really have no reason to believe she was drinking/using drugs/partying. She was well-liked. I have NOT read one thing negative said about this girl in any source. By all accounts, she was sweet, genuine and giving. She may have had issues in the past(whatever those were, we don't really know), but nothing in her recent behavior points to her having problems out of the norm right before she died. She was well-liked at work. So much so that her co-workers were having a very hard time talking about her. With all of that being said, I think she left home with good intentions.

I've read that she was a people pleaser. Always quick to help people out. Please read the comments from her friends and family on the Justice for Jessica page. People pleaser. And I think that was her undoing.

One person was hauled in for questioning early on because she was found to be on JC's phone. IMO, she wasnt hauled in right away simply because she was in JC's phone as she stated, but that she was the LAST person to have contact with JC. After watching both of the interviews with Auntie, I am convinced that she is vulnerable and could be easily manipulated with the promise of drugs. I think she was asked to get JC somewhere and promised drugs in exchange. I do NOT think Auntie knew what was going to go down. I think she was used as a lure to get JC somewhere. Perhaps she asked for a ride to or from somewhere and whoever wanted JC dead was waiting. I don't believe JC drove her car to where it was eventually found. I've never believed she drove herself to That spot on Herron. The car seats reclined. Parking brake on. She did not go there willingly.

Auntie knows what happened. Maybe not everything, but she knows who took JC to where she was found. I think when the poop hit the fan, this party story was concocted. Only I don't think there was a party, or at least one JC ever planned to attend. I think LE knows there was no party now and I fully believe they will continue to take auntie in for every little thing until she cracks. And I believe she will eventually. I've watched and re-watched her interviews and I think she knows something. Her addiction(in my speculation) has kept her quiet, as has her fear of the person(s) involved.

Anyway, that's what I think happened. Since I don't know who choked her, I can't say whether I think that person was involved. But I think DT knows who may have done the choking. Anyway, I had to put that out there because I've worked it over in my mind for a month now and this is where I am. lol

She was charged twice with assault. That is negative. The girl grew up in an atmosphere of drugs, crime and violence. Why does everyone pretend she was lily white innocent? Just asking. imo

 

[Ms Pragmatic]

She was charged twice with assault. That is negative. The girl grew up in an atmosphere of drugs, crime and violence. Why does everyone pretend she was lily white innocent? Just asking. imo

I've no need to pretend anything. i didn't know her.

 

[octobermoon]

I've no need to pretend anything. i didn't know her.

I didn't know her either but I don't discount her history, what little we know. She was raised there, these were her friends. This was her life. Who she chose to socialize with. I think she was a multifaceted human being. The good. the bad, and the in between. But to paint her as an angel who was all giving and loving ignores her true history. People don't get charged twice with assault and end up in (a DV shelter or) L'sH without a history of trouble. Sugar coating her life won't bring her justice.

 

[octobermoon]

Jessica was a victim of a horrific crime. She died too soon. She didn't deserve what happened.

 

[Ms Pragmatic]

I didn't know her either but I don't discount her history, what little we know. She was raised there, these were her friends. This was her life. Who she chose to socialize with. I think she was a multifaceted human being. The good. the bad, and the in between. But to paint her as an angel who was all giving and loving ignores her true history. People don't get charged twice with assault and end up in (a DV shelter or) L'sH without a history of trouble. Sugar coating her life won't bring her justice.

I acknowledged she had issues in my post. I don't have further information on them. Nothing came of her assault charges, so I can't speculate on what they stemmed from. I also know that living in a violent home where the drinks never stop flowing doesn't necessarily doom one to repeat the cycle. I don't drink and I chose to go in a very different direction. I think JC found someone she admired in that author and maybe that woman's story and her friendship was enough to turn things around.

 

[octobermoon]

I acknowledged she had issues in my post. I don't have further information on them. Nothing came of her assault charges, so I can't speculate on what they stemmed from. I also know that living in a violent home where the drinks never stop flowing doesn't necessarily doom one to repeat the cycle. I don't drink and I chose to go in a very different direction. I think JC found someone she admired in that author and maybe that woman's story and her friendship was enough to turn things around.

But all we have are "maybe" she turned a new leaf, maybe she made it out of the negative lifestyle that exists there. I could easily say she maybe just maybe gave up, and asked the author to "remember me" that she had a story that she wanted known after..... Just saying we know nothing about this girl or her life. What little we know that was positive was in the last few months of her life. She had a new a job. She had been to church. She had left a DV shelter or L'sH. We don't know what her life was like after she gradutated HS. Nothing. We have no idea who Jessica really was.

 

[Ms Pragmatic]

But all we have are "maybe" she turned a new leaf, maybe she made it out of the negative lifestyle that exists there. I could easily say she maybe just maybe gave up, and asked the author to "remember me" that she had a story that she wanted known after..... Just saying we know nothing about this girl or her life. What little we know that was positive was in the last few months of her life. She had a new a job. She had been to church. She had left a DV shelter or L'sH. We don't know what her life was like after she gradutated HS. Nothing. We have no idea who Jessica really was.

And you are entitled to your opinion. I appreciate your thoughts.

 

[octobermoon]

And you are entitled to your opinion. I appreciate your thoughts.

I appreciate yours. Makes me think.

 

[MyBelle]

But all we have are "maybe" she turned a new leaf, maybe she made it out of the negative lifestyle that exists there. I could easily say she maybe just maybe gave up, and asked the author to "remember me" that she had a story that she wanted known after..... Just saying we know nothing about this girl or her life. What little we know that was positive was in the last few months of her life. She had a new a job. She had been to church. She had left a DV shelter or L'sH. We don't know what her life was like after she gradutated HS. Nothing. We have no idea who Jessica really was.

BBM. With all due respect, the facts that you stated ALL happened after Jessica graduated high school. That is not in dispute.

I have a really good idea who she was: A VICTIM.

JMO

 

[flatfootjoe]

bbm

Maybe she was sitting in her car, with her feet flat on the floorboard when she was lit on fire. :thinking:

With no accelerant on the rug beneath them?

 

[flatfootjoe]

BBM

Or sending a message to someone? Or destroying something thought to be in the car? Maybe the car itself was evidence? IDK...

Or maybe just as simple as, your turn is coming up next Jessica. Whoever did this is a monster. An awful unfeeling monster. Maybe just one more way they tortured her that night. First the car, then you. The fear and horror that girl suffered that night had to be unimaginable.

 

[cady]

BBM. With all due respect, the facts that you stated ALL happened after Jessica graduated high school. That is not in dispute.

I have a really good idea who she was: A VICTIM.

JMO

Yes. And someone hated her enough to torture and kill her. Someone felt wronged, betrayed or threatened by her. JMO

 

[imkeylime]

Yes. And someone hated her enough to torture and kill her. Someone felt wronged, betrayed or threatened by her. JMO

Agreed. And while I don't think Jessica was necessarily perfect (who is, after all?), it's possible that such wronging, betrayal, or threat was in the person's head, due to drug use, disease, etc. A small slight or threat might seem like a big thing to a disturbed person. While I think the perp might be involved in a gang- or drug-related lifestyle, I'm leaning toward this being more personal.

 

[east2west]

Agreed. And while I don't think Jessica was necessarily perfect (who is, after all?), it's possible that such wronging, betrayal, or threat was in the person's head, due to drug use, disease, etc. A small slight or threat might seem like a big thing to a disturbed person. While I think the perp might be involved in a gang- or drug-related lifestyle, I'm leaning toward this being more personal.

An ongoing unresolved personal dispute that was festering.
Imo

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