MS - Jessica Chambers, 19, found burned near her car, Panola County, 6 Dec 2014 - #8

[suspicious1]

I like what I read earlier today about going back to the beginning, so I would like to dissect the statement made by EB and published in MSM, linked in the media section of this case.
"Investigators say Chambers was able to talk with the first responder. Bibbs says the investigator mentioned to him that Chambers had said the name Derrick or Eric".

"He said there was an accident I think down the road and your name was mentioned," said Bibbs. "And he said I think one of the other people said the only Eric I know in this area is Eric Bibbs."

Bibbs told the detective he did not know Jessica Chambers and wasn't even aware of what had happened to her. The investigator never told him why he was being questioned.

"That day that it happened. I had been here with a toothache since about 6 p.m.," said Bibbs. "I think maybe they came by here about 9:30 p.m., they even went to my grandma address. They called my mom."

When I dissect his statement for the umpteenth time, some things still stand out to me. First he "thinks" an accident happened down the road. Why think this, when you would know for a fact especially after speaking to LE or hearing emergency vehicles and even a medical helicopter. He then states the "day that it happened", problem is the event happened in the evening. Furthermore, he states that he doesn't know JC. Can a positive link be made that proves otherwise? Lastly, he lives so close to the accident that it would put him in a position to walk home after the event occurred on Herron Rd. If LE went to his mother's and grandmas place looking for him, he probably wasn't at his house when they went looking for him, the first time. Should that be true, his home with a toothache since 6 pm story doesn't seem to jive. Lastly, I don't think his name being mentioned by a dying Jessica was sheer luck.

A couple other interesting events have recently taken place and I highly doubt they are just coincidental. That being Ali skips town, then a major player in the local drug trade is arrested. Next, Mr. blown NFL player, being popped in town, over the weekend with drugs whick makes me think he was in town to look things over so to say.

All things considered, if parts of EB's story can be proven false, we may be on to a serious POI. Can anyone prove a known connections between EB and JC???

When I first saw his interview I immediately thought the JC directed them to him. Who was the person who said "the only Eric I know is EricBibbs? Where did that come from?

When Eric said he had been home since 6 i thought to myself "liar". The fact that we thought JC was seen on video after 6, maybe he didn't have anything to do with it. But now.....if JC was actually seen on video before 6, that makes me think that whatever happened to her was in motion by at least 6. It just seemed odd to me that EB said he had been home by 6. It was as if he didn't want to put himself outside his home after 6, kwim? And why not?

JMO

 

[SeriouslySearching]

What you noticing here is conversational style. He could just as easily have said:

"(I think) he said there was an accident down the road and your name was mentioned," said Bibbs. "And he said I think one of the other people said the only Eric I know in this area is Eric Bibbs."

"That day that it happened (Dec. 6) I had been here with a toothache since about 6 p.m.," said Bibbs. "I think maybe they came by here about 9:30 p.m., they even went to my grandma address. They called my mom."

Even if he lied about knowing JC it's not a crime and it doesn't make him a POI.

I would say since LE tracked him down to interview him...he is a POI. However, it doesn't make him a suspect. Lying about knowing Jessica could certainly put him in the suspect pool.

 

[Yvettea]

They might check with local dentists and see if he really had a toothache. Those usually require some action.

 

[Yvettea]

I would say since LE tracked him down to interview him...he is a POI. However, it doesn't make him a suspect. Lying about knowing Jessica could certainly put him in the suspect pool.

Yes they went to interview EB and were probably none too happy to find him not answering even going by his grandma's and calling his mom. However I think they wanted to talk to him mainly because he lives near the accident site, to see what he knew as in what he heard or did he see anything?

Unfortunately they left the site unattended and the car unescorted. It's unfortunate EB knew nothing.

 

[:+:MrTT:+:]

very good video at this link of the scene and car.
http://www.wmcactionnews5.com/story...in-jessica-chambers-case-search-for-new-clues

Quick questions for any LEOs and firemen that arrived on the scene.
In the video, it shows the car on the toe truck. The passenger door and drivers door is closed. Is that how it was found? Or were one or both of the doors opened when found but closed for towing purposes?

And was the car in park or drive position?
and was the ignition turned off, or was it still in the on position?

It looks like the vehicle made a sharp turn and stopped without crashing by the tree.

But I really want to know about the car doors. Thank you in advance for your answers.

 

[SeriouslySearching]

Yes they went to interview EB and were probably none too happy to find him not answering even going by his grandma's and calling his mom. However I think they wanted to talk to him mainly because he lives near the accident site, to see what he knew as in what he heard or did he see anything?

Unfortunately they left the site unattended and the car unescorted. It's unfortunate EB knew nothing.

Or did he?

 

[SeriouslySearching]

very good video at this link of the scene and car.
http://www.wmcactionnews5.com/story...in-jessica-chambers-case-search-for-new-clues

Quick questions for any LEOs and firemen that arrived on the scene.
In the video, it shows the car on the toe truck. The passenger door and drivers door is closed. Is that how it was found? Or were one or both of the doors opened when found but closed for towing purposes?

And was the car in park or drive position?
and was the ignition turned off, or was it still in the on position?

It looks like the vehicle made a sharp turn and stopped without crashing by the tree.

But I really want to know about the car doors. Thank you in advance for your answers.

Thanks for the video as I have not seen it.

We have no definitive answer on how the doors were found initially.

We have learned the car was in park and the parking brake was on. Also the car seats were both in the reclined position. This is not indicative of an accident, imo.

 

[KING Charles]

I'm of the opinion that there was NO party, or at least one JC had any intention of attending. And yes, I have read the new article on not-to-be-mentioned site. Was there enough time for that to occur, drive back to Courtland, and set her and car on fire?

You have come up with some great posts. I do think the time would be limited if Jessica had gone to Batesville considering she was chatting with her Mum and was obviously safe and well around 7pmish.

I maybe totally wrong here, but I had a walk about on Google maps and did notice the Speedy car wash on the right hand side as you approach Batesville. Right next door to it is the Skyline Motel I have looked up reviews on this place and it doesn't seem to have a good reputation. If something should have happened in this area it would have taken approx 11mins to get to Heron Road.
I don't know really, it's just a long shot but it's just another input into what could have happened.

MOO

 

[southernyankee]

Yes they went to interview EB and were probably none too happy to find him not answering even going by his grandma's and calling his mom. However I think they wanted to talk to him mainly because he lives near the accident site, to see what he knew as in what he heard or did he see anything?

Unfortunately they left the site unattended and the car unescorted. It's unfortunate EB knew nothing.

I agree with this (bold text) - proximity of the residence to the Herron Road scene, regardless of involvement, would make whoever lived there good candidates for questions about anything they noticed or heard that evening.

Maybe it's just me, but I'm not feeling much suspicion about that particular person questioned. If you were to commit a horrible murder like that, why would you do it so close to your own house? So you can walk back to your house where you might be one of the first places people might think to look or question residents...? Chances are you'd still smell a bit smoky or lighter fluid-y or...something. I don't know. This just doesn't make much sense to me.

Also - if there is/was any evidence (phone evidence, for example - texts or calls) linking Jessica + EB, or if any parts of EB's story don't add up or can't be verified, THEN I'd say maybe there's something to it. But if everything checked out? Ehh. Based on what we know, my personal conclusion is that EB is NOT the perp or directly involved in Jessica's death.

 

[Mahouston69]

I'm encouraged by the video, the trailer shown in it with what looks like investigators looks exactly like the home at the address of a RSO in the immediate vicinity on Herron Rd Subdivision which tells me they are checking not just the area but particularly RSO even if their names don't have an ..ick.. sound to them.

 

[imkeylime]

I'm encouraged by the video, the trailer shown in it with what looks like investigators looks exactly like the home at the address of a RSO in the immediate vicinity on Herron Rd Subdivision which tells me they are checking not just the area but particularly RSO even if their names don't have an ..ick.. sound to them.

Any type of checking is good with me. Re: name: Someone else recently mentioned this, but I can't remember who. When you mention the "ick" sound ... as someone else said, it's worth considering that JC could have been identifying herself. I'd love that she gave a suspect's name, and maybe she did. But I wouldn't find it strange if she said her own name, either ... in such a terrifying moment, who knows what she was cognizant of?

 

[imkeylime]

I completely agree that there was no party. Not a shred of evidence to back up that opinion that I am relieved you share :blushing:

I also don't believe there was a party, but I do wonder why CW would mention a party at all. Her doing that doesn't seem like it would be random, unless perhaps JC had been invited to a nonexistent party or JC told CW she was stopping by a party (or something on that order). For example, maybe JC had been told that someone she'd want to see or who wanted to see her would be at a party somewhere.

Also, re: hotel: stopping by a motel be because she was told someone she knew was staying there?

 

[flatfootjoe]

Also, she was seriously injured, especially her throat and mouth. I'm not sure she clearly said Eric Bibbs or Derrick...but would agree maybe she was trying to say something ..with something that had that sound..."...ick...did....." not necessarily a name even. Hopefully, she was clearer than I think she was.

I agree, no matter how many people in how many places have reported she has spoken, and examples which show how very possible that act was, some people believe something is to be gained by making it sound as if that weren't possible. What's much more probable is that she spoke something near inaudible, or unintelligible. Without the full use of our lips, tongue and larynx, making certain sounds are impossible. Try it yourself, use a handful of common words, I'd suggest cat, dog, mother, father, burn, fire. (I chose those words only for convenience and the ease of pronunciation) Pay close attention to the position of your tongue and lips. Then try saying the same words keeping your tongue and lips motionless. I fully believe she spoke, however I'm not sure she was easy to understand.

 

[Elley Mae]

I agree, no matter how many people in how many places have reported she has spoken, and examples which show how very possible that act was, some people believe something is to be gained by making it sound as if that weren't possible. What's much more probable is that she spoke something near inaudible, or unintelligible. Without the full use of our lips, tongue and larynx, making certain sounds are impossible. Try it yourself, use a handful of common words, I'd suggest cat, dog, mother, father, burn, fire. (I chose those words only for convenience and the ease of pronunciation) Pay close attention to the position of your tongue and lips. Then try saying the same words keeping your tongue and lips motionless. I fully believe she spoke, however I'm not sure she was easy to understand.

I gotta tell ya, I did it. I made myself struggle as if my throat where damaged, & tried uttering those 2 sounds, derrick/eric and I don't know if she was trying to say anything other then trying to say something. idk jmo

 

[monster]

I tried it also and couldn't do it, got a WTH look from my hubby.

 

[New1]

Yes they went to interview EB and were probably none too happy to find him not answering even going by his grandma's and calling his mom. However I think they wanted to talk to him mainly because he lives near the accident site, to see what he knew as in what he heard or did he see anything?

Unfortunately they left the site unattended and the car unescorted. It's unfortunate EB knew nothing.

I think if they didn't find anyone home near the scene, they would have assumed he didn't hear anything, so why go looking for him at his grandmother's house and call his mom?

 

[dairydog]

I have listened to interviews with the Courtland fire chief, the 1st responder who came upon Jessica at the crime scene. He does state that she said something to him but he couldn't disclose what she said. Given that statement, how did the news leak out with regards to possible names that poor Jessica uttered? I have copied and pasted below, a few lines from a Reuter article. It's all very confusing.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/12/16/us-usa-mississippi-crime-idUSKBN0JU2HT20141216

Courtland Fire Chief Cole Haley said Chambers made a dying statement to him, but he would not disclose what she said.

Her sister told Reuters last week that Chambers had identified her killer before dying, but the sister has since declined further comment.

 

[SStarr33]

I have listened to interviews with the Courtland fire chief, the 1st responder who came upon Jessica at the crime scene. He does state that she said something to him but he couldn't disclose what she said. Given that statement, how did the news leak out with regards to possible names that poor Jessica uttered? I have copied and pasted below, a few lines from a Reuter article. It's all very confusing.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/12/16/us-usa-mississippi-crime-idUSKBN0JU2HT20141216

Courtland Fire Chief Cole Haley said Chambers made a dying statement to him, but he would not disclose what she said.

Her sister told Reuters last week that Chambers had identified her killer before dying, but the sister has since declined further comment.

Because one of the guys they interviewed, Eric Bibbs, told the media

 

[dairydog]

Because one of the guys they interviewed, Eric Bibbs, told the media

Thanks for that SStarr33. You're right! Duh on my part! I would have thought that LE could have interviewed him without divulging a name that Jessica may have uttered since it seemed important that this information be kept private (as per fire chief).

 

[samantha17]

While we all certainly hope that it is not the case, based on information released by DA Champion, it doesn't seem that we are a lot closer to having this case solved than we were the night it happened. I'm sure we all hope that LE does have quite a bit of evidence and information leading to a suspect or suspects that they are holding tightly to their vest, but I don't think many of us are especially confident that they do. A few holds and a couple of arrests of names that we have become familiar with here have popped up, but apparently for nothing that pertains to this case. JMO.

Agree, however as I've stated before LE and DA have to make sure that their evidence is rock solid before making an arrest. With the Christmas and New Year holidays I'm sure all labs with evidence are backed up to the hilt and getting that info takes time = a slow process. It's not like TV shows where the crime is solved in a few days .... this is a real life crime.