MS - Jessica Chambers, 19, found burned near her car, Panola County, 6 Dec 2014 - #8

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[imkeylime]

I feel really good about that amount of money. It's definitely a sizable sum. If there was more than one culprit, I bet they're getting uneasy now. Fifty thousand dollars, even if you're used to easy money, it's a number that gets your attention. Part of the problem in this case, is that if in fact any of the perpetrators or "witnesses" are connected to drug money, 20 or 30 grand just isn't that enticing. It's similar in principle to the behavior that kept Bin Laden free for so long. To get anyone to talk about anything, you have to make the reward sizable enough to entice people. Chances are the people in this case have absolutely nothing to do with OPEC millions, but I'd venture to guess they may have money in meth or heroin futures.

You're gonna have to forgive me WSer's I just can't get my mind to wrap around the fact that a typical average Joe or Janet could do something like this to another person. I'm firmly in the camp that this crime was likely perpetrated by recidivist criminal(s) :moo::moo::moo:

Yes, it certainly seems plausible that talking would not only affect one's safety but even one's livelihood in such a situation. If that's the case, the monetary reward would need to be worth it ... and an added offer of protection would be even better, I suppose. It would be nice if doing the right thing was enough.

Also ... if the perp of this crime isn't part of the gang culture ... or even went against the gang culture with his/her personal vendetta against JC ... family and friends might also be nervous, as the crime has certainly put the focus on gangs in Courtland. I'm thinking of the quote from BC that the gangs are angry, too. IDK if that's the case, but if it is, it's a different angle.

I personally think that the person/people who killed JC has/have gang ties but operated as a lone wolf/long wolves due to some personal vendetta. It does seem like fear is driving the silence, but I'm not sure what's behind the fear, if that makes sense.

 

[Fifth Avenue]

FBI Most Wanted on Twitter

The #FBI is offering a reward of up to $25,000 for info in the death of Jessica Chambers: http://t.co/gELdE75xSI http://t.co/W6MYSJ3TdO


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[samantha17]

I agree, SteveP, that this could very well be a solid indication that the DNA evidence was either nonexistent or not helpful, and we all know what happened with the other physical evidence, so there's no need to rehash that for the umpteenth time... but, on the bright side, I have seen convictions on murder cases where there wasn't even a body, let alone DNA evidence, so I am keeping my fingers crossed that the FBI/DEA/ATF are building an otherwise strong case, and are just seeking that one witness to come forward to corroborate. Further, I have seen that once one witness comes forward, they start falling like dominos. Fingers crossed this is the case here!

If LE has any DNA results back they certainly wouldn't release that information to the public. Also, please tell us what happened with the OTHER physical evidence ... I don't read this blog everyday.

 

[bessie]

What happened to the "thank" button? Will it be brought back?

I wanted to "thank" this but couldn't so Thank You!

We're aware of the "thanks" button issue. Dave is working on the system, and disabling the "thanks" button temporarily is part of the process.

As always, thanks so much for your patience.

Bessie

 

[jamiefind]

We're aware of the "thanks" button issue. Dave is working on the system, and disabling the "thanks" button temporarily is part of the process.

As always, thanks so much for your patience.

Bessie

Thank you. Also, one incremental improvement would be to distinguish between Thank and Like. I know WSers tend to use the Thanks button for those two meanings.

 

[jamiefind]

Amen, Amen, and AMEN. My only input to add to this dead-on post of yours, is something that I have mentioned before... I would hope that, publicly, authorities would state in some fashion, that they are willing to protect any witnesses. I could be wrong, but I have not seen that anywhere thus far. Whether or not they could in fact provide this protection is another topic completely, but I feel that if someone involved were to see that they could be protected and get over 50 grand, they might be more inclined to speak up. $53,000 is a great deal of money, but is it enough to relocate an entire family? An extended family? We all know by now that Panola County is small and intertwined, with families having multiple generations still present in the area. Yes, I could take the $53,000 and run, but what about my grandma? My cousins? Aunts? Somebody will be retaliated against, I have no doubt about that. I feel that this is the reason why nobody has spoken up thus far. MOO/IMO/all that. Great post, ffj.

Good post, and I ask all WSers that have followed this thread for a significant time to pause and see if they remember Champion or Darby making any comment or conversational aside to that effect. I do have a faint recollection of some brief phrasing that LE would protect witnesses, but I could be wrong. Any better memories out there could be helpful one way or the other. Thanks!

 

[1&2&3]

To answer the poster on the previous page, the amount of money distributed to Jessica's parents from the donation fund was in the $19,000.00 range, under $20,000.00. It was split evenly between Ben and Lisa. The amount was announced about the time of Lisa's interview on WS radio program. Cannot provide a link, I admire you that always can.

 

[SStarr33]

I just read this. from this link...http://www.myfoxtampabay.com/story/27594800/police-gruesome-details-reveal-how-teen-was-burned-alive

"They squirted lighter fluid down her throat and in her nose, and apparently they knocked her out," her father, Ben Chambers, told the station as he fought back tears. "She had a big gash on top of her head."

[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]"When the fire department got there, she was walking down the road on fire ... only part of her body that wasn't burned was the bottom of her feet," said Chambers, an employee of the Panola Country Sheriff's Department.[/FONT]

[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]And in the latest release, press conference when he mentioned no street chatter. He/she were referring to snitches. There snitches have not heard anything on the street, and have nothing to report.[/FONT]

[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]A lot of LEOS from many departments and the governor are involved in this case. Visit the link site no discussion on this case. Has a lot of information with lots of visual aids to view.[/FONT]

I've always found it interesting how this Tampa station has more photos of her car than the local stations.

 

[MSCJgrad]

I can't recall which thread, but there was extensive conversations regarding the mismanagement/tainting/abandoning of evidence. There were numerous links provided, pertaining to protocol for securing a crime scene, chain of evidence, etc. The specifics that are easy to point out off of the top of my head are: car removed from scene promptly, crime scene not secured nor taped off until 3 days after the fact, physical evidence photographed on the scene of the crime the first couple of days after JC's death, the tow-truck driver making a pit stop at the M&M with JC's vehicle in tow, and the quickness in which the crime scene was cleared. If I have a chance later, I will try to read back on previous pages/threads to find the specific pages for you, but it's out there somewhere, and all of the links are in the media thread. Hope that helps!

If LE has any DNA results back they certainly wouldn't release that information to the public. Also, please tell us what happened with the OTHER physical evidence ... I don't read this blog everyday.

 

[cady]

And now that I've said that I'll contradict myself. People in a small town stick together; they need each other.

Therein lies the problem; people who have factual information do not want to talk because it may implicate a relative by blood, marriage, or former marriage or friendship. They need each other to protect their own misadventures from being exposed. JMO

 

[southernyankee]

Therein lies the problem; people who have factual information do not want to talk because it may implicate a relative by blood, marriage, or former marriage or friendship. They need each other to protect their own misadventures from being exposed. JMO

This is another possible reason why additional agencies were brought into the investigation... during the course of the investigation into Jessica's death, I strongly believe that evidence of other, unrelated + in some cases more minor crimes (but crimes nonetheless) were discovered.

I'm concerned that if $53,000 isn't enough for someone to come forward...it's because that person has a whole lot to lose by doing so. Like, their own freedom. I don't see any guarantees of immunity and I'm wondering if that's the key issue here. If the only people who know the truth behind this case are all directly involved + haven't told anyone else, then therein lies this obstacle:

Why risk a lesser sentence for yourself whilst ratting out another (or others) at this point, when so far you've gotten away with it + may continue to do so?

I'm at the point where I believe it's going to take a more extreme measure to break this case. But I do think it's breakable.

 

[MyBelle]

If LE has any DNA results back they certainly wouldn't release that information to the public. Also, please tell us what happened with the OTHER physical evidence ... I don't read this blog everyday.

Nothing happened with the other physical evidence other than they haven't released it to the public. There have been baseless accusations the chain of evidence was broken by LE with the car but no proof of it has ever been posted nor has the DA admitted it. The DA was interviewed:

"Nothing that is protected by the grand jury, or that is subject to being taken to the grand jury is a public record under Mississippi law and that's why we're not releasing it," Champion explained.

http://www.wmcactionnews5.com/story...a-chambers-murder-case-may-provide-more-clues

 

[DexterMorgan]

The 53k is probably for info that will get the perps convicted. Now a crackhead may have some info but it may not be enough because the court may consider it hearsay. This will deter people from the reward. Because they may feel that its not worth the risk of snitching while still not being eligible for the reward. So people may know what happened but do not have a direct link from the suspects themselves. And depending on their lifestyle; Their testimony may not hold up in court.

 

[southernyankee]

Physical evidence notwithstanding... I will chime in + voice concern on possible details being leaked as a potential issue.

It appears that Fire Chief Cole Haley's statement on the record (the one in which he is videotaped by the news media that has been linked here, previously) simply summarizes what he saw + heard without giving precise details such as what Jessica was able to communicate.

But then, we have Janice Broach for WMC Action News 5 reporting that:
"Investigators say Chambers was able to talk with the first responder. B____ says the investigator mentioned to him that Chambers had said the name Derrick or Eric. "
http://www.wmcactionnews5.com/story...ath-jessica-chambers-says-he-did-not-know-her

My point is: Neither the Fire Chief nor any LE official have gone on record, that I know of, reporting any name that Jessica said. We only know this from a source that was questioned. But if an investigator told him that sort of sensitive information in questioning - and if it is in fact true - mightn't that be an issue in terms of protecting the investigation?

 

[DexterMorgan]

Theres 1000 people named eric or derrick in that county. So unless jc gave more specifics, then it still will be hard for a conviction.

 

[Steleheart]

We're aware of the "thanks" button issue. Dave is working on the system, and disabling the "thanks" button temporarily is part of the process.

As always, thanks so much for your patience.

Bessie

But he neglected to include a "Thanks Dave" button haha

 

[MyBelle]

Physical evidence notwithstanding... I will chime in + voice concern on possible details being leaked as a potential issue.

It appears that Fire Chief Cole Haley's statement on the record (the one in which he is videotaped by the news media that has been linked here, previously) simply summarizes what he saw + heard without giving precise details such as what Jessica was able to communicate.

But then, we have Janice Broach for WMC Action News 5 reporting that:
"Investigators say Chambers was able to talk with the first responder. B____ says the investigator mentioned to him that Chambers had said the name Derrick or Eric. "
http://www.wmcactionnews5.com/story...ath-jessica-chambers-says-he-did-not-know-her

My point is: Neither the Fire Chief nor any LE official have gone on record, that I know of, reporting any name that Jessica said. We only know this from a source that was questioned. But if an investigator told him that sort of sensitive information in questioning - and if it is in fact true - mightn't that be an issue in terms of protecting the investigation?

BBM. Investigators are allowed to lie in the course of an investigation. They may have told "B" this but that doesn't equate to being proof JC said it. I think the grand jury will hear from the fire chief before we do.

JMO

 

[cady]

BBM. Investigators are allowed to lie in the course of an investigation. They may have told "B" this but that doesn't equate to being proof JC said it. I think the grand jury will hear from the fire chief before we do.

JMO

Just based on actual facts of this case where do you think this investigation is going? JMO

 

[samantha17]

"Nothing that is protected by the grand jury, or that is subject to being taken to the grand jury is a public record under Mississippi law and that's why we're not releasing it," Champion explained.

It's true .... no evidence can be made public until the grand jury hears it and if they (the grand jury) decides to take the case to trial against a suspect then the public won't hear any evidence until that trial.