MS - Jessica Chambers, 19, found burned near her car, Panola County, 6 Dec 2014 - #9

[machiado]

This applies to a whole bunch of people; not just arsonists.

Interesting fact from your link:

It has been found that arsonists and firesetters have co-occurring psychopathologies, such as antisocial behavior, sexual promiscuity, substance abuse, and cigarette smoking;

 

[Yvettea]

www.drtomoconnor.com/4050/4050lect04a.htm
Mar 5, 2012 - No arsonist shows remorse, but only the pyromaniac lacks conscious ... Most psychological profiles are drawn from clinical assessments of ...

Check out the link above; especially the interview of an arsonist.
Also, facts given in link for the profile of those that commit crimes via fire.

BBM: very interesting. How revealing to see things through the perp.

 

[New1]

To the best of my knowledge, the Dec 9 issue of the Panolian used "3448 Herron Road" as the correct address for the crime scene. (Google Street View on the other hand uses 2352. Google also uses 2364 as the Street View address for the ROWSEY property on the opposite side of the road, facing the crime scene. Taken altogether Street View produces the same image (on my computer) for all three addresses.

Your suggestion to examine the Courtland Tax Assessors database might provide a map detail on subdivision lots, especially the intersection of Herron Road and lower Courtney Village Drive (ie the ROWSEY sign, opposite the crime scene).

However I see no need to provide an exact name or address to the area, and I believe that WS frowns upon sleuthing everything to that sort of clarity. At least that is how things have been pointed out to me.

Maybe it's just me, but I've thought it a little odd that there is an exact street address given for where Jessica's car was burned. **** Herron Rd. sounds like an address where someone receives mail--like a personal address. My personal or mailing address is **** ***** Road--that's where my house is--that's where I get my mail. If a murder or accident happened on this road, unless it was in my driveway, it would be reported in the newspaper as happening on ***** Road, not at a specific address. Does this make any sense?

 

[rbarber17]

Is anyone able to find a link to a searchable database of Panola County MS Tax assessments? I looked and was unable to find it. Maybe someone else will have better luck.

Here is a list of MS property tax databases. Notice it skips right over Panola County, so assume they have not yet entered the GIS digital age yet:
http://www.searchpropertydata.com/mississippi-property-database-&-land-assessments-in-ms.html

I did find a pretty detailed map of Panola County on the Internet though, if it is of any help to you:
http://panolacoms.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/PANOLA_COUNTY_GIS_LDZ_111814.pdf

:notgood:

 

[machiado]

I don't think Herron road addresses go much above 2364 or so - it is right about at that address that Herron road switches over to Main St. (at least on google maps). All the addresses along Herron road going southwest from 2364 decrease. I have no idea where the 3448 came from. This is so confusing - :gaah:

Maybe it's just me, but I've thought it a little odd that there is an exact street address given for where Jessica's car was burned. **** Herron Rd. sounds like an address where someone receives mail--like a personal address. My personal or mailing address is **** ***** Road--that's where my house is--that's where I get my mail. If a murder or accident happened on this road, unless it was in my driveway, it would be reported in the newspaper as happening on ***** Road, not at a specific address. Does this make any sense?

 

[:+:MrTT:+:]

Do you realize how close the house that backs up to Main St. is to the car wash? There are no buildings between it and the car wash. You can see the car wash from the back of the house, completely unimpeded view.

I am sorry. I am not fully understanding your comment. Is this something we can look at? And are you referring carwash 5 on the map.

 

[Yvettea]

I am sorry. I am not fully understanding your comment. Is this something we can look at? And are you referring carwash 5 on the map.

You can look at the house on Google street view. It is the house just west of the car wash. The car wash is on Main St. in Courtland. It is the only car wash in Courtland and is labeled 5 on someone's map.

Main St. becomes Herron Rd. at some point. At the site where the fire occurred, actually just across the road, someone is currently listed with the MS parole board as a Courtland resident.

 

[MyBelle]

This applies to a whole bunch of people; not just arsonists.

I think LE is focused on those who fit the profile of arsonist and that is why they cast such a wide net.

JMO

 

[MyBelle]

Maybe it's just me, but I've thought it a little odd that there is an exact street address given for where Jessica's car was burned. **** Herron Rd. sounds like an address where someone receives mail--like a personal address. My personal or mailing address is **** ***** Road--that's where my house is--that's where I get my mail. If a murder or accident happened on this road, unless it was in my driveway, it would be reported in the newspaper as happening on ***** Road, not at a specific address. Does this make any sense?

It's not odd at all. Rural properties near small towns were given street addresses to aid in 911 dispatch and mail delivery so instead of RR2, there is a specific address to pinpoint on a map. Jessica's car was located in a dirt driveway with a gate. It's an actual property address.

JMO

 

[southernyankee]

Jessica's car was located in a dirt driveway with a gate. It's an actual property address.

Can you please share with us where you got the bolded information, specifically? That's certainly not how I perceived it... there is a a metal gate structure there in the photographs I've seen, but I don't see where anyone has referred to that patch of dirt as a "driveway."

 

[MyBelle]

Can you please share with us where you got the bolded information, specifically? That's certainly not how I perceived it... there is a a metal gate structure there in the photographs I've seen, but I don't see where anyone has referred to that patch of dirt as a "driveway."

From a map posted early in the case in the discussion about Jessica's mother commenting that she wondered if neighbors could have heard anything. Another poster pointed out that on some google maps, the dirt drive was Courtney Village Dr. which is also the name of the street to the east.

JMO

 

[southernyankee]

Here is a list of MS property tax databases. Notice it skips right over Panola County, so assume they have not yet entered the GIS digital age yet:
http://www.searchpropertydata.com/mississippi-property-database-&-land-assessments-in-ms.html

I did find a pretty detailed map of Panola County on the Internet though, if it is of any help to you:
http://panolacoms.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/PANOLA_COUNTY_GIS_LDZ_111814.pdf

:notgood:

Dang. That was what I suspected - Panola County wasn't quite as up to speed as some other counties in Mississippi with putting a searchable database online... that map is for land use + zoning, but the scale of it is quite tremendous for the purpose of subdivisions + small lots.

Thank you for searching this! The parent directory of that page has some other files + resources which I'm browsing now...basic town/county admin stuff, resourceful for residents + anyone seeking basic info about county services. If I come across anything interesting, I'll let y'all know.

(Agh, and I'm thinking that www.panolacoms.com is not actually an official page associated with any of the county services; simply a collection of information about it. It's hosted at a dot-com, not a dot-gov, and the county coroner's listed e-mail address is *@hotmail.com....yup.)

 

[southernyankee]

From a map posted early in the case in the discussion about Jessica's mother commenting that she wondered if neighbors could have heard anything. Another poster pointed out that on some google maps, the dirt drive was Courtney Village Dr. which is also the name of the street to the east.

JMO

I see where Google Maps shows two roads or paths leading south from Herron Road, each labeled "Courtney Village Drive." I don't see anywhere on the map information nor in any MSM publication that refers to Jessica's car as having ended up in a place that was shown to specifically be a driveway, though.

Oh well. Thanks anyway.

The presence of the gate and what appears to be a sign posted on it leads me to believe that it is, or was once, or maybe is simply a seasonal entryway. To what, though, I don't understand why is not known - specific ownership isn't important to me, but trying to understand whether it's for public, commercial, residential or private use would be interesting to know, because that could shed a bit more light on how frequently its owners or users would have traveled through the gate and possibly witnessed anything out of the ordinary in the days surrounding December 6th.

Lastly: There is a handmade sign on the gate in some photos that says "3448" which is where I'm guessing some sources got that #. This is a photograph stored by Wordpress for an article originally by News Channel 3 in Memphis (WREG): https://localtvwreg.files.wordpress.com/2014/12/69.jpeg?w=1920

 

[MyBelle]

I see where Google Maps shows two roads or paths leading south from Herron Road, each labeled "Courtney Village Drive." I don't see anywhere on the map information nor in any MSM publication that refers to Jessica's car as having ended up in a place that was shown to specifically be a driveway, though.

Oh well. Thanks anyway.

The presence of the gate and what appears to be a sign posted on it leads me to believe that it is, or was once, or maybe is simply a seasonal entryway. To what, though, I don't understand why is not known - specific ownership isn't important to me, but trying to understand whether it's for public, commercial, residential or private use would be interesting to know, because that could shed a bit more light on how frequently its owners or users would have traveled through the gate and possibly witnessed anything out of the ordinary in the days surrounding December 6th.

Lastly: There is a handmade sign on the gate in some photos that says "3448" which is where I'm guessing some sources got that #. This is a photograph stored by Wordpress for an article originally by News Channel 3 in Memphis (WREG): https://localtvwreg.files.wordpress.com/2014/12/69.jpeg?w=1920

BBM. A rural road with no dividing line leads to a green gate and dirt driveway that sits a few feet from the tree and skid marks.

http://fox6now.com/2014/12/12/jessica-chambers-phone-provides-leads-prosecutor-says/

 

[:+:MrTT:+:]

We need an update from the LEOs. To let us know where they are at. Perhaps there missing a piece of the puzzle or have one or two or more that does not fit correctly.

Maybe today?

 

[StacyMarie83]

Prince said she was told the attacker had gotten into the car and set Chambers on fire inside the vehicle.

http://fox6now.com/2014/12/11/burned-mississippi-teens-phone-key-to-finding-killer-prosecutor-says/

 

[NineMilly]

The following information is based on information from public records. Nothing has been published to indicate that JC was the victim of a sexual assault. Likewise, nothing has been published to indicate that JC was not the victim of a sexual assault. I, along with other WS posters have suggested that the pouring of a flammable substance down JC's mouth, throat, nose, car, etc. was an attempt to eliminate evidence of any kind, including possible evidence of an sexual assault. When considering sexual assault as an aspect of this case, it is prudent to vet local registered sex offenders. This has led me to two RSO's. The label RSO #1 and RSO #2 do not reflect whom I suspect to be higher up on the POI list. I have zero doubt that LE, including the alphabet crews have looked into this information but I haven't seen it posted on WS, so I thought that it is worth noting for WS'ers to discuss.

RSO #1
Convicted of the sex offense of Carnal knowledge of a juvenile who allowed himself to be interviewed at the M&M a day or so after the crime. He is at the end of this video. http://www.clarionledger.com/media/c...ideo/20235989/

I'm starting with RSO #1 because he allowed himself to be interviewed at the M&M gas station shortly after the crime occurred. In this interview, the RSO either intentionally or unintentionally makes a statement that is simply not true

According to the RSO database, RSO #1 has an address published as #### Herron subdivision, which is an actual road that intersects Main St. The house number given in the RSO database does not correspond to an actual house. But with the published address, if it is real, he lives about 0.6 miles from the scene of the crime. He also claims in this media interview to be a lifelong Courtland resident. The problem is, in actuality, he has lived in West Monroe, Louisiana which also happens to be where he was convicted of the sex offense.

RSO #2
Uses three aliases as first names and two different last names. Not that this means a thing, but the first name he uses is the same first name as JC's brother. Last known address is #### HERRON ROAD, Batesville, MS 38606. This address is 1.2 miles SW of the crime scene but on the same side of the road that JC and her burning car were found. Also, RSO #2 listed an address in the city of Batesville yet Batesville does not have a Herron Road. Furthermore, RSO#2's residence can be seen using the Google drive feature. In his driveway is a vehicle fitting the general description of one being sought. Even more interesting is that upon a closer look, you can clearly see a red gas can out in the open.

RSO #2 moved from Eau Claire/Chippewa Falls, Wisconsin which is where his two sex offense convictions took place. According to published records, he has lived in Sardis, Courtland, and Senatobia, Mississippi.

RSO #2 Has convictions in (Clark County, Wisconsin - Case Number 2004CF000119). These convictions are for the crime of 3rd Degree Sexual Assault. Wisconsin lists this offense as a class G felony.

This felony is defined in Wisconsin Statutes 940.225(3) as for the purpose of sexually degrading or humiliating the complainant or sexually arousing or gratifying the defendant, intentionally causing the complainant to ejaculate or emit urine or feces on any part of the defendant's body, whether clothed or unclothed.

Additionally, third degree sexual assault is defined by Wisconsin as whoever has sexual intercourse with a person without the consent of that person is guilty of a Class G felony. Whoever has sexual contact in the manner described in sub. (5) (b) 2. or 3. with a person without the consent of that person is guilty of a Class G felony.

Originally RSO #2 was sentenced to 235 days in jail and ordered to have no contact with SIX individuals. However, his Probation was revoked on 09-06-2007 and was then sentenced to 4.6 – 5 years in prison.

Currently, RSO #2 is described as being under Active community Supervision by unit 507 Neillsville Region Unit which is located in Neillsville, WI. His maximum discharge date is 12-4-2015. Somewhat troubling is that I was unable to find any supervision information as it pertains to the Mississippi DOC.

The above information is factual, I have not attempted to draw any conclusions. However, I think many could be suggested. I'll leave that for the WS'ers for now and I may chime in on my own thoughts about the facts as posted above. (*note, I had some behind the scenes help from fellow Sluether's and I can't thank them enough for the help!)

 

[ZOOL]

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Lastly: There is a handmade sign on the gate in some photos that says "3448" which is where I'm guessing some sources got that #. This is a photograph stored by Wordpress for an article originally by News Channel 3 in Memphis (WREG): https://localtvwreg.files.wordpress.com/2014/12/69.jpeg?w=1920

Great find, southernyankee -- That at least explains from where 3448 derived! (IMHO, the "3448" is an obvious mistake: all Herron addresses on the western side of Herron are odd numbered, not even, as in the picture). It is interesting to note that the Google Street View "April 2014" image of the crime scene shows that hand-numbered 3448 so one must assume that the "owner of record" placed that sign in existence. This may contradict my even/odd comment. I need to examine all this again so I may be modifying this post later.

ETA: After having driven the Google Street Views again for the umpteenth time, it baffles me now why the crime scene has a sign with an even number; it ought to be an odd number to remain consistent with the other addresses on the west side of Herron.

 

[cady]

Prince said she was told the attacker had gotten into the car and set Chambers on fire inside the vehicle.

http://fox6now.com/2014/12/11/burned-mississippi-teens-phone-key-to-finding-killer-prosecutor-says/

Interesting since Lisa said that LE has not shared information with the family.....JMO

 

[dairydog]

Let's hope that there is a great turnout at the service today for Jessica. Perhaps this will be a catalyst for some updated MSM reports. Surely the local stations will at least cover it. We need justice for this poor young lady.

http://www.myfoxboston.com/story/27954409/jessica-chambers-candlelight-vigil-planned-for-jan-31