MS - Jessica Chambers, 19, Panola County, 6 Dec 2014 ; Quinton Tellis Indicted - #12

[leep]

I'm brand new to this case, and I'm a newshound. This has not been on my radar at all, although there are more than 10 full threads here at Websleuths.

So with "Eric", does it appear she knew at least one of the assailants?

edited to add: Here are the names of the accused. I don't see an "Eric" or anything that would sound like Eric:

These are the individuals facing charges:

Lyndon Mosely, Jr., 24
Edward House, 39
Joshua Cannon, 25
Anand Vijay Shegog, 39
Mondarious Armstead, 23
Gregory B. Andrews, 22
D'Irian Case, 18
Janicholas Vankeith Scott, 34
James Mosely, Jr., 26
George Todd, 23
Dedrick Ivery, 39
Antonio Johnson, 28​
Xavier Hooks, 25
Kevin Windfield, 37
Elgin Lamar, 38
Deon Smith, 20
Stanley Coleman, 40

(from News3)

BBM Was JC's last words "Eric" a mixup of Dedrick ;-) MOO.

 

[wfgodot]

I think the "last word" thing was a myth, and I wonder about that first responder.

 

[rbarber17]

<snip>
Here is a partial list members of the Black Squad~ initials only ~

TDG
Works at Kroger
Joined over a year ago


MS
South Panola High School
Joined over a year ago


MJC
South Panola High School
Joined over a year ago


LRF
Works at GETTIN MONEY
Added by Kevin Rudd about 9 months ago


BYAW
President (education) at President of SandGang Music Yung Ace
Added by Kevin Rudd about 9 months ago


LPNP
Joined over a year ago


DDC
Works at Tyson Foods
Added by Kevin Rudd about 7 months ago


KKJr C
Rapper at B.O.E black out ent
Added by Kevin Rudd about 9 months ago


JNB
Joined over a year ago


SR
South Panola High School
Added by Rodriques Deion Hooks over a year ago


KR
South Panola High School
Joined over a year ago


CCZ
South Panola High School
Joined over a year ago


Deon Smith
South Panola High School
Joined over a year ago


GC
Works at Sonic Drive-In
Joined over a year ago

Is it just me, or does it seem like there's a definite musical streak running through this upstanding fraternal organization? I've found a few links to their endeavors. Now I think I understand where the name "rap" comes from:

GETTIN MONEY
https://www.microsoft.com/en-au/store/music/album/smash-b/gettin-money/8d6kgx03q5k4

SandGang Music Yung Ace
https://soundcloud.com/search?q=SandGang Music Yung Ace

B.O.E Black Out Entertainment
https://soundcloud.com/theblackoutzone

 

[MizStery]

I think the "last word" thing was a myth, and I wonder about that first responder.

I have followed your posts on both the Holly Bobo thread and throughout this one.You are spot on with your post. POW

wfgodot, your suspicion is valid because it's difficult to impeach Cole's account or investigate his alibi.

Sheriff Darby was the first person Cole called;they share what the truth is.* Sheriff Darby was the ranking officer & was responsible for the handling of Jessica's crime scene. I do not have to elaborate on the shoddy way the crime scene was initially processed!

My opinion only.

:cow:

* footnote Link to actual sequence of events:
(Cole Haley speaking)I called the sheriff&#8217;s department immediately, I notified P1 (Panola County Sheriff Dennis Darby), called Med Stat (ambulance) and immediately put Air Evac en route,&#8221; the firefighter said.


&#8220;I called Pope FD because I knew they were close by,&#8221; the Courtland firefighter added.


Post #859 on the linked screen:
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sh...&p=11735989&highlight=Cole+Haley#post11735989

 

[FindHG]

FBI: Investigation into teen burned alive yields gun, drug arrests
By CRIMESIDER STAFF CBS/AP
December 17, 2015, 11:24 AM




sorry if it's a repost, I just wanted to include the picture of Jessica

 

[rbarber17]

Don't believe this one has been mentioned here on the Jessica Chambers thread, though I see a separate forum was started on Websleuths this past September to discuss the case:

http://www.nola.com/crime/index.ssf/2015/10/human_remains_found_in_burned.html
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sh...y-Parish-20-Sept-2015&p=12079231#post12079231

The victim's car was discovered in Sun, MS, about three weeks after her disappearance after leaving work in Bush, LA. Sun is about 290 miles due south of Courtland, not far from the MS state line.

Seems to be a lot of similarities between this apparent homicide in St. Tammany Parish, LA, and Jessica's murder in Courtland, MS: a car burned in a secluded, wooded area with a lone female victim inside it. The victim disappeared after leaving work in September 2015. Perp(s) could have either been hiding in the car, or hitchhiking, or faking car trouble. Did they escape on foot, or have a vehicle waiting nearby? Did they know the area already beforehand? Was this their first murder? Is LE in St. Tammany Parish just as stymied as LE in Panola County? Fire destroys a lot of evidence.

 

[kodi]

Just read the news about all the arrests! *catches up*


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[carbuff]

Don't believe this one has been mentioned here on the Jessica Chambers thread, though I see a separate forum was started on Websleuths this past September to discuss the case:

http://www.nola.com/crime/index.ssf/2015/10/human_remains_found_in_burned.html
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sh...y-Parish-20-Sept-2015&p=12079231#post12079231

The victim's car was discovered in Sun, MS, about three weeks after her disappearance after leaving work in Bush, LA. Sun is about 290 miles due south of Courtland, not far from the MS state line.

Seems to be a lot of similarities between this apparent homicide in St. Tammany Parish, LA, and Jessica's murder in Courtland, MS: a car burned in a secluded, wooded area with a lone female victim inside it. The victim disappeared after leaving work in September 2015. Perp(s) could have either been hiding in the car, or hitchhiking, or faking car trouble. Did they escape on foot, or have a vehicle waiting nearby? Did they know the area already beforehand? Was this their first murder? Is LE in St. Tammany Parish just as stymied as LE in Panola County? Fire destroys a lot of evidence.

I saw that case and wondered about it. Someone mentioned a similar case near Memphis a few months earlier, with a male victim. I didn't find it on a quick search though.

 

[BirdycatNY]

I saw that case and wondered about it. Someone mentioned a similar case near Memphis a few months earlier, with a male victim. I didn't find it on a quick search though.

There was a recent case that was caught on video tape in MD? http://www.wbaltv.com/news/2-people-doused-with-gasoline-set-on-fire-man-charged/36816114

But is this the TN case you are referring to?
http://wreg.com/2015/05/01/update-body-found-in-burned-out-car-in-raleigh-identified/

 

[bbbd4u]

The stingray device is not only used by the feds I personally know the state of WI has one of them in which they use. It is completely different than wiretapping and its legal here for use but maybe each state is different that is I don't know.

Regarding the 20,000 plus cell phone records mentioned by MSCJgrad above, there may have also been an investigation already underway at the time of her murder, which might have included secretive cell phone interception devices known as "Stingers" or "Stingrays," devices which can simulate a cell phone tower and thereby intercept actual cell phone communications in a nearby area, not just the metadata. The company that makes the equipment requires the police and other LE agencies who purchase it not to disclose its existence. As such, it has been kept under wraps and has not yet been tested under 4th Amendment provisions for illegal search and seizure.

Up until Jessica's murder, it was being used routinely by federal LE without a federal judge's order (always required for a wiretap, but this would be a "wireless tap"...) Not long after the murder, the Justice Department announced they would start getting prior judicial authorization. But if anything was learned about Jessica by LE prior to that change in policy, it might prove inadmissible later, unless LE can prove they could have developed the same lead independently from another source.

JMO

 

[wfgodot]

Don't believe this one has been mentioned here on the Jessica Chambers thread, though I see a separate forum was started on Websleuths this past September to discuss the case:

http://www.nola.com/crime/index.ssf/2015/10/human_remains_found_in_burned.html
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sh...y-Parish-20-Sept-2015&p=12079231#post12079231

The victim's car was discovered in Sun, MS, about three weeks after her disappearance after leaving work in Bush, LA. Sun is about 290 miles due south of Courtland, not far from the MS state line.

Seems to be a lot of similarities between this apparent homicide in St. Tammany Parish, LA, and Jessica's murder in Courtland, MS: a car burned in a secluded, wooded area with a lone female victim inside it. The victim disappeared after leaving work in September 2015. Perp(s) could have either been hiding in the car, or hitchhiking, or faking car trouble. Did they escape on foot, or have a vehicle waiting nearby? Did they know the area already beforehand? Was this their first murder? Is LE in St. Tammany Parish just as stymied as LE in Panola County? Fire destroys a lot of evidence.

Arrested in the Nanette Me'Shell King murder referred to above: her former boyfriend and his brother. Police say Gary Harris killed her and then her body and vehicle were taken to the location at which they were found and set alight. Big differences: Ms. Chambers was alleged to have been found outside her car, alive and talking, and died at another location hours later. Arrests were made within a week in the King matter.

http://www.wdsu.com/news/local-news...an-found-in-burned-car-on-northshore/35920840

 

[rbarber17]

Arrested in the Nanette Me'Shell King murder referred to above: her former boyfriend and his brother. Police say Gary Harris killed her and then her body and vehicle were taken to the location at which they were found and set alight. Big differences: Ms. Chambers was alleged to have been found outside her car, alive and talking, and died at another location hours later. Arrests were made within a week in the King matter.

http://www.wdsu.com/news/local-news...an-found-in-burned-car-on-northshore/35920840

Thanks for that news, wfgodot. You've restored my faith in LE. Strange they were arrested for second-degree murder, but I guess that simply means no pre-mediation. There was certainly some post-meditation though, with their hiding and burning the vehicle and victim, but I guess that doesn't count.

 

[carbuff]

There was a recent case that was caught on video tape in MD? http://www.wbaltv.com/news/2-people-doused-with-gasoline-set-on-fire-man-charged/36816114

But is this the TN case you are referring to?
http://wreg.com/2015/05/01/update-body-found-in-burned-out-car-in-raleigh-identified/

Yes, that looks like it. Thanks!

 

[rbarber17]

The stingray device is not only used by the feds I personally know the state of WI has one of them in which they use. It is completely different than wiretapping and its legal here for use but maybe each state is different that is I don't know.

I remember when cell phones first came out. They were analog devices instead of digital, and you could listen in on conversations with a police scanner if you knew how. Then with the advent of digital cell phones, that capability went away... for a while anyway. The Stingray technology mimics a cell phone tower, so can pull in everything a cell phone wants to send its way -- identity of phone, approximate location, text messages, conversations, etc.

Here is a link to some "guidance" put out by the Justice Departments for Stingray users within its purview. Note that there is nothing stated about what the policy was before this was issued just recently, long after Jessica's murder last December:

http://www.justice.gov/opa/file/767321/download

One telling item in the policy is on the second page:

"Moreover, cell-site simulators used by the Department must be configured as pen registers, and may not be used to collect the contents of any communication, in accordance with 18 U.S.C. § 3127(3)." [boldface added by me]​

To me, this one statement is very telling. If such a device "...must be configured..." not to do something, the the logical presumption is that it can also be configured to -DO- that something that it must not. One wonders what the policy for Justice LE was -prior- to the issue of this official policy on September 3, 2015? Are there now cases out there with "tainted" evidence acquired by such non-complying Stingray configurations?

Let's hope Jessica's murder is not caught up in such intrigues. I would hate after everything that his been done to catch her murderer(s) to see them "walk" on such a technicality. I know the Supreme Court has already decided LE cannot attach a tracking device to a suspect's vehicle without a court order. With that in mind, it is not too difficult to figure out how the SCOTUS would decide the issue of using Stingray technology without a search warrant issued by a judge based on probable cause. When it comes to privacy of U.S. citizens, I don't think they care whether a tap is "wired" or "wireless".

JMO

 

[rbarber17]

https://shadowproof.com/2015/09/04/...ngray-surveillance-policy-has-major-loophole/

 

[bbbd4u]

I am speaking only on what I know personally the state of WI has used a stingray on and that would have fallen under “exigent circumstances”*in regards to human life per a missing person circumstance.

I remember when cell phones first came out. They were analog devices instead of digital, and you could listen in on conversations with a police scanner if you knew how. Then with the advent of digital cell phones, that capability went away... for a while anyway. The Stingray technology mimics a cell phone tower, so can pull in everything a cell phone wants to send its way -- identity of phone, approximate location, text messages, conversations, etc.

Here is a link to some "guidance" put out by the Justice Departments for Stingray users within its purview. Note that there is nothing stated about what the policy was before this was issued just recently, long after Jessica's murder last December:

http://www.justice.gov/opa/file/767321/download

One telling item in the policy is on the second page:

"Moreover, cell-site simulators used by the Department must be configured as pen registers, and may not be used to collect the contents of any communication, in accordance with 18 U.S.C. § 3127(3)." [boldface added by me]​

To me, this one statement is very telling. If such a device "...must be configured..." not to do something, the the logical presumption is that it can also be configured to -DO- that something that it must not. One wonders what the policy for Justice LE was -prior- to the issue of this official policy on September 3, 2015? Are there now cases out there with "tainted" evidence acquired by such non-complying Stingray configurations?

Let's hope Jessica's murder is not caught up in such intrigues. I would hate after everything that his been done to catch her murderer(s) to see them "walk" on such a technicality. I know the Supreme Court has already decided LE cannot attach a tracking device to a suspect's vehicle without a court order. With that in mind, it is not too difficult to figure out how the SCOTUS would decide the issue of using Stingray technology without a search warrant issued by a judge based on probable cause. When it comes to privacy of U.S. citizens, I don't think they care whether a tap is "wired" or "wireless".

JMO

https://shadowproof.com/2015/09/04/...ngray-surveillance-policy-has-major-loophole/

 

[rbarber17]

I am speaking only on what I know personally the state of WI has used a stingray on and that would have fallen under “exigent circumstances”*in regards to human life per a missing person circumstance.

bbbd4u, are you in Wisconsin LE or do you just have personal knowledge from that particular case?

If the former, then can you tell us how bulky the Stingray equipment is? Do you need a van with racks and consoles and dish antennas, or is it like the photo of the FBI agent in the article, something as compact as a laptop? If it requires a van or even a step van, then an unusual vehicle of that type parked in a neighborhood would easily raise suspicions, but if something that fits into a car, not so much.

JMO

 

[bbbd4u]

I am not in LE I work along side LE for SAR missions. I am a co-founder of a non-profit SAR group and nationally certified through NASAR and FEMA. The two stingrays I am referencing the state of WI has are smaller they would fit in a suit case in a carry on bag including the antenna. The equipment is more than just a laptop such as the photo shown. But there is no need for a special equipted vehicles any vehicle would work to attach the magnetic antenna to stick to. It could easily blend in the antenna is slightly longer and has a spiral part wrapped around the main antenna. I could easily pick out a vehicle if it has the stingray device connected but I'm not sure if it would send off a red flag with others if your not paying close attention.

bbbd4u, are you in Wisconsin LE or do you just have personal knowledge from that particular case?

If the former, then can you tell us how bulky the Stingray equipment is? Do you need a van with racks and consoles and dish antennas, or is it like the photo of the FBI agent in the article, something as compact as a laptop? If it requires a van or even a step van, then an unusual vehicle of that type parked in a neighborhood would easily raise suspicions, but if something that fits into a car, not so much.

JMO

 

[wfgodot]

Chattanoogan:

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Jessica Chambers, a cute blonde cheerleader in a state so famous for its female beauty it is claimed Ole Miss &#8220;red-shirts&#8221; the Miss Americas, was doused with gasoline and set afire after she was brutally forced to sit in her Kia about six miles outside of Batesville. It is believed she spurned a relationship invitation by a black gang member and four days later was taken by force to a Batesville hotel, gang-raped by no less than four people, all right before she was taken to a remote area and burned alive.
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There was a time during the slain cheerleader&#8217;s life that she was associated with gangs and went to a Christian center to become rehabilitated. After she returned to Cortland, she refused to have any association with gang members and that led to some calling her a &#8220;snitch.&#8221; It is universally believed the gang members who burned the girl alive wanted to send &#8220;a message.&#8221;
---

They Attack Gangs Instead

This writer guy also seems to think the incident happened "about ten months ago."

Also: "universally believed." Whatever.

 

[DeDee]

http://www.melissadata.com/lookups/deathcheck.asp?first=Roger&last=Hentz&State=

Thank you, rbarber.

RH Date of Death 2015-10-24

RH Date of last known arrest 2015-09-03

http://mississippi.arrests.org/Arrests/Roger_Hentz_24253892/?d=1