MSM coverage of Baby Lisa, 11/11/11

[Dr. Know?]

LE has found so much more out since the 8th of October. It's November 11th, Mountain time right now. Why is it DB/JI/Lawyers are ignoring the fact that much more information has come out to ask questions about They need to either go with their lawyers & have a good tell all or build their case. Actually, I see the defense team building their case from today's presser with Picerno. He was running the defensive line. So we are in an indictment mode I hope soon. Go LE!

 

[SubtleGrace]

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bbm

Really? Many of us have spoken about the antagonistic tone that LE took against B/I team when they started the garbage that the family HAD STOPPED COOPERATING. The family immediately rebutted that, and ever since it has been a circus. But LE has had to say, over and over, that the family IS answering questions, while still trying to maintain that they are not cooperating.

I am offended by that, and I am not related to the family - and I don't know if they are guilty or innocent. But I think that LE took off the gloves and slapped that family's face with them early on.

This is really starting to sound like the Aisenberg tragedy all over again.

 

[3doglady]

When interrogating a potential suspect, it is always much better to have them 'alone.' Even if they have their attorney there, being separated from their partner is always better. LE is attempting to break them down. But they are always going to feel much stronger when they are sitting next to their partner. LE does not want that. They want their potential suspect to feel alone and vulnerable while they are being questioned. I cannot blame them.

I remember once when my son was about 11 and we had a birthday party at our house. And it was a Pokemon card type party. I gave each of the kids a few variety packs of cards. Anyway, halfway through the party I found my son very upset. And someone had stolen two of his most precious and expensive and rare cards. I was PISSED. We knew it was one of the 7 boys at the house. And then one of my neighbors told me that she saw two of the boys sneaking out from my son's room a bit earlier. So my husband took both the boys up to his office to talk to them. They were adamant that they were totally innocent. But I separated them, and questioned them one at a time, using that age old LE tactic. Sure enough, one of the kids pulled the cards out of his back pocket, once we said the other kid had confessed it wa them. SO IMO, YOU NEED TO SEPARATE THEM TO GET ANYWHERE WITH THEM.

Exactly. You were interrogating suspects because you knew one was guilty and you wanted a confession. That's exactly the reason LE wants to interrogate them separately. LE wants a confession. If there are vital questions pertaining to the investigation LE can get those answers through the attorney. LE separated and questioned them for 11 hours. If LE did not get a confession then they aren't going to.

 

[MyBelle]

And, sadly, may people automatically think that every statement that comes from that side is a lie. Period. (Unless it happens to be detrimental to the family, in which case it is believed 100%, while every OTHER word said is a lie.) I don't think that every word from the family is a lie, or that it is the truth. But until I have something to counter it, I have to give them the benefit of the doubt.

And, any questions that are intended to help find out what happened to Baby Lisa can be asked over the phone, in the family's living room, or anywhere else. There is no need to bring them into the station, unless the purpose of the interview is to try to extract a confession.

BBM. I have no reason to believe any statement made by attorneys. I know attorneys lie all the time.

Most attorneys would keep their mouths totally shut if they were truly interested in protecting their clients. These attorneys give the impression they won't allow their clients to talk individually with LE because they think their clients are guilty.

JMO

 

[MissJames]

I have yet to hear anyone say that LE is the bad guy. But LE has a job to do, and that is to find who has committed a crime. One of the techniques that they use is to interrogate people that they are suspicious of, and those interrogations are not pleasant.

This family sat through long sessions of interrogation and did not "crack" and then said "no more". Why didn't they crack? Either because they are darned good liars (which, if you understand the Reid Technique of interrogation, is rather unlikely), or they are innocent. In either case, they have a valid reason to not want to go sit in the interrogation room again.

In the meantime they have been answering questions - but LE has not only allowed the public to believe otherwise, but they have actually encouraged it - until they are asked point blank, and they have no choice but to admit that the parents are, in fact, cooperating.

That doesn't make LE bad, it just is two different sides of the same situation. Some people can see and understand both sides without saying one is right and the other is wrong, and some people can't. I am one of the ones who can see both sides.

BBM
Those words may not have been used ,but it's been insinuated and there has been criticism of LE posted based on things the Irwin's lawyers have said or what has been reported in MSM.
I don't know what LE is doing ,but I believe they are looking at everything .That includes the parents,but there are a lot of others that would also require a thorough investigation.
I take what MSM says with a grain of salt. The same with defense lawyers. It's their job to spin but I don't like it.
LE's job is find out what happened to baby Lisa. SHE is their priority,not the parents.
ALL JMO

 

[Sparklin]

When interrogating a potential suspect, it is always much better to have them 'alone.' Even if they have their attorney there, being separated from their partner is always better. LE is attempting to break them down. But they are always going to feel much stronger when they are sitting next to their partner. LE does not want that. They want their potential suspect to feel alone and vulnerable while they are being questioned. I cannot blame them.

I remember once when my son was about 11 and we had a birthday party at our house. And it was a Pokemon card type party. I gave each of the kids a few variety packs of cards. Anyway, halfway through the party I found my son very upset. And someone had stolen two of his most precious and expensive and rare cards. I was PISSED. We knew it was one of the 7 boys at the house. And then one of my neighbors told me that she saw two of the boys sneaking out from my son's room a bit earlier. So my husband took both the boys up to his office to talk to them. They were adamant that they were totally innocent. But I separated them, and questioned them one at a time, using that age old LE tactic. Sure enough, one of the kids pulled the cards out of his back pocket, once we said the other kid had confessed it wa them. SO IMO, YOU NEED TO SEPARATE THEM TO GET ANYWHERE WITH THEM.

But they have already done that. When they were at their most vulnerable. It's past that time now. They have already used that tactic and it didn't work. If they have such important questions that will make or break this case, ask them any way you can get an answer. They have already tried to break them individually, didn't work, try something different.

 

[MyBelle]

Exactly. You were interrogating suspects because you knew one was guilty and you wanted a confession. That's exactly the reason LE wants to interrogate them separately. LE wants a confession. If there are vital questions pertaining to the investigation LE can get those answers through the attorney. LE separated and questioned them for 11 hours. If LE did not get a confession then they aren't going to.

LE wants to interrogate them separately because one was home and one wasn't. They aren't married so can testify against one another and I'm guessing that is why their attorneys stopped allowing them to give interviews to anybody, whether it be Fox or cops.

I doubt LE expects either to confess with their attorney present.

JMO

 

[Sparklin]

Well.............all the defense attorneys better come up with something better than they have, I don't think what they have so far is gonna work.........but they can keep spinning.

We don't know what they have except the info they tell us. Any more than we know what LE has. The cell phone issue today was confirmed by 'investigators in this case' so I'm not sure how it was spun or by who.

 

[3doglady]

If LE really has vital questions that only the parents can answer why not ask them together? LE has stated the parents are cooperating. If I had a vital question that I thought would help find BL I would get an answer anyway I could.

 

[tehcloser]

We don't know what they have except the info they tell us. Any more than we know what LE has. The cell phone issue today was confirmed by 'investigators in this case' so I'm not sure how it was spun or by who.

I was talking about the mean ol' popo spin.........not the cell phones.

 

[Sparklin]

It's their BABY, I would think they would try to HELP solve it.

Police say Bradley and Irwin have not agreed to sit down separately for extensive police interviews since Oct. 8 and say there are still questions they would like answered from the couple. Authorities say the parents have responded to questions regarding specific tips or issues, but have not agreed to unrestricted questioning.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/missing-ba...attorneys-claim/story?id=14931954#.Tr2h_0NTl9

According to authorities, they are helping.

 

[tehcloser]

http://abcnews.go.com/US/missing-ba...attorneys-claim/story?id=14931954#.Tr2h_0NTl9

According to authorities, they are helping.

I see where it said "responded", they didn't say if it "helped".

 

[katydid23]

If LE really has vital questions that only the parents can answer why not ask them together? LE has stated the parents are cooperating. If I had a vital question that I thought would help find BL I would get an answer anyway I could.

Because if the parents are questioned in each other's presence,they might not be as forthcoming. Let's say LE has a reason to believe that Mom lost her temper, and injured the baby accidentally. And maybe they want to talk to Dad about that possibility. Is he going to be honest about her temper outbursts if Mom is in the room?

 

[Jaxson]

I think it would be ridiculous for the attorneys to be spinning much when they have no idea what LE knows and has confirmed. They don't have discovery rights unless or until either or both parents are indicted. If they spin story's with out knowing what evidence is out there then they are treading in dangerous waters IMO.

 

[Sparklin]

BBM. I have no reason to believe any statement made by attorneys. I know attorneys lie all the time.

Most attorneys would keep their mouths totally shut if they were truly interested in protecting their clients. These attorneys give the impression they won't allow their clients to talk individually with LE because they think their clients are guilty.

JMO

bbm= I don't get that impression AT ALL. I get the impression that Deb and Jeremy were accused, lied to, pitted against each other and treated like garbage, and their lawyers don't think that is necessary to get whatever answers LE is so afraid to ask them together. I would automatically assume, keeping them apart would be more of the same.

 

[tehcloser]

Everyone knows the hot button issues: mean popo, race, sexual orientation yada...........they went with mean popo. Guaranteed to upset peeps.

 

[Sparklin]

I see where it said "responded", they didn't say if it "helped".

Well, all they can do is answer the questions that LE asks. If they have no info to help, that can't be blamed on them surely???

 

[MissJames]

Exactly. You were interrogating suspects because you knew one was guilty and you wanted a confession. That's exactly the reason LE wants to interrogate them separately. LE wants a confession. If there are vital questions pertaining to the investigation LE can get those answers through the attorney. LE separated and questioned them for 11 hours. If LE did not get a confession then they aren't going to.

Hypothetical again, What if someone called in an anonymous tip that JI was having an affair. This was called in after the original interviews .LE knows JI would automatically deny this in the presence of DB.But if he can speak to LE alone he might be able to tell them he was "friendly" with a woman once , but felt guilty and broke it off. Now the woman won't leave him alone.
That could be important info to pursue someone else.
Another hypothetical
Maybe DB has been going to a bar but doesn't want JI to know.It's not a big deal to us, but may be to her. This info could lead to important info that even DB doesn't realize.

There could be any number of reasons why LE wants to separate the couple.We don't know what they know.
JMO

 

[3doglady]

Because if the parents are questioned in each other's presence,they might not be as forthcoming. Let's say LE has a reason to believe that Mom lost her temper, and injured the baby accidentally. And maybe they want to talk to Dad about that possibility. Is he going to be honest about her temper outbursts if Mom is in the room?

You are making my point. The only reason for LE to interview them separately again is to prove one is guilty. It's not to get vital answers about anything else. For LE to say that the parents are refusing to answer vital questions makes it sound like those mean ol parents are holding back info that would help find BL.

 

[tehcloser]

Well, all they can do is answer the questions that LE asks. If they have no info to help, that can't be blamed on them surely???

I can't sit here and say they have no info that would help.........LE seems to think they do, so therefore.....suck it up, go down there let them interview you separately get it over with and then if LE still has nothing then let's go from there.