MSM coverage of Baby Lisa, 11/11/11

[winterrose]

And has a computer at her disposal.:twocents:

Unless she wasn't in the house,and using the phone.

 

[Donjeta]

Sorry, just catching up (meetings all day) but Deb said she HOPED they weren't real (true).

DA: “You said that what you have been told has been lies, what do you mean by that?”
DB: “During interrogation, ‘We found this.’ They showed me burnt clothes, they showed me a f, a doppler thing with pings from a, that my cell phones and, um, I’m led to believe at this point that none of that was real. I hope the burnt clothes weren’t real. “

Courtesy of notmykids
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It makes no sense. Why is she led to believe none of that was real? How the heck is she to know what kind of ping chart the abductor did with her phone or what happened to Lisa's clothing? Why is she hoping that the clothes aren't real, why isn't she hoping that they're a real lead and someone saw something at that dumpster fire that will lead to the abductor and to Lisa?

 

[Tiki]

It seems that one of the phones was working as MW's phone received a call from one of them.
right?
I'm so confused now, I don't know if that's been proved or disproved.

.

 

[justamommy]

except for this bit.............

"This phone problem that they had was when the phones were cut off and could only recieve incoming phone calls and incoming texts from early in the afternoon. She recieved a uh, her husband, uh not her husband, her fiance Jeremy tried to contact her early in the evening to tell her that he was going to be late coming home, it went direct to the verizon message, stating that the phone is not operable."

Which is why I asked if he was calling from his work phone.......why didn't it go through if they could get incoming calls........:waitasec:

Who knows what verizon restricted service is??? I will see if I can dig something up. Your bolded proves that the call couldn't go thru, but was attempted as the phone records would indicate.

 

[aks9847]

except for this bit.............

"This phone problem that they had was when the phones were cut off and could only recieve incoming phone calls and incoming texts from early in the afternoon. She recieved a uh, her husband, uh not her husband, her fiance Jeremy tried to contact her early in the evening to tell her that he was going to be late coming home, it went direct to the verizon message, stating that the phone is not operable."

Which is why I asked if he was calling from his work phone.......why didn't it go through if they could get incoming calls........:waitasec:

Where does this quote come from? Do you have link for it? TIA!

 

[Coldpizza]

except for this bit.............

"This phone problem that they had was when the phones were cut off and could only recieve incoming phone calls and incoming texts from early in the afternoon. She recieved a uh, her husband, uh not her husband, her fiance Jeremy tried to contact her early in the evening to tell her that he was going to be late coming home, it went direct to the verizon message, stating that the phone is not operable."

Which is why I asked if he was calling from his work phone.......why didn't it go through if they could get incoming calls........:waitasec:

So Verizon was their service provider?

 

[Pensfan]

http://foxnewsinsider.com/2011/11/11...a-disappeared/

Blaming Jersey (Kronk) again. Phew. Megan is an pretty young woman and she has friends in KC. Her friends and boyfriends all had her number. If someone in Megan’s house was selling marijuana or other “products”, then MANY people knew Megan’s number, not just Jersey. If Deb or someone staying at her home was searching for “products”, they may have called Megan’s number.


Here is an interesting article about the seven stages of crack use. I wonder if someone using Deb’s phone was in Stage One. Illogical things are done in Stage 1.
http://
chosenfast.com/2007/06/12/the-7-stages-of-crack-cocaine-use/

Pensfan
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verified psychiatric mental health nurse

 

[Pensfan]

also makes no sense to me if DB is trying to access the internet on her phone during this time if she is involved in some way - especially since she knew she had restricted use..

It might. See above post.

 

[tehcloser]

Where does this quote come from? Do you have link for it? TIA!

Transcript :


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[Niner]

BBM: Exactly ... :waitasec: and WHY... IF you just kidnapped a baby, would you need to use the internet ?

Makes no sense at all ...

MOO ...

just a thought, but - they wanted to get on the internet to access their email account to send a message to "someone" - "I've got the baby".... :waitasec:

 

[tehcloser]

So Verizon was their service provider?

According to the attorney.........

 

[Boodles]

No....he would have been calling from his WORK phone which has no restrictions. Her phone could get INCOMING calls according to numerous posters here. So this part fits quite accurately into the scenario of restricted phone usage.

jmo

But wait. What's confusing me is, if a phone with service interruption can receive calls, then why did the attorney say that Jeremy called and got the Verizon out of service message? (Although he trips a little on his words when saying this.)

You can't have it both ways, just like the outgoing call at 11:57 to MW's number. Unless the phone she was given by her father (?) was using HIS phone plan, how could her phone have made a call at 11:57?

 

[In da Middle]

It seems that one of the phones was working as MW's phone received a call from one of them.
right?
I'm so confused now, I don't know if that's been proved or disproved.

.

it has NOT been proven that MW's phone actually received the call.

 

[justamommy]

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This is what I came up w/ for Verizon non-payment...assuming it is Verizon. It does not specifically say what is allowed or not, only that service will be interrupted. There you go FWIW.

 

[tehcloser]

Is that a cell bill? Plus it's from 2000...............I'm sure it's changed. oops yes it cell.....my bad.

 

[Pensfan]

Who knows what verizon restricted service is??? I will see if I can dig something up. Your bolded proves that the call couldn't go thru, but was attempted as the phone records would indicate.

My elderly godmother has this. She has this because she doesn't call out of the area. Because she doesn't make any long distance phone calls, her "restricted service" saves her money. She can't dial long distance.

 

[In da Middle]

But wait. What's confusing me is, if a phone with service interruption can receive calls, then why did the attorney say that Jeremy called and got the Verizon out of service message? (Although he trips a little on his words when saying this.)

You can't have it both ways, just like the outgoing call at 11:27 to MW's number. Unless the phone she was given by her father (?) was using HIS phone plan, how could her phone have made a call at 11:27?

Maybe their phones could not even receive calls due to interruption of service.

as far as I know, it is only speculation that they could receive calls.

 

[tehcloser]

Maybe their phones could not even receive calls due to interruption of service.

as far as I know, it is only speculation that they could receive calls.

Well, we have another "but" because BS said they could...........let me get the link. He said they were "red-lined" and could only receive calls.......... This is from today also..........

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[Coldpizza]

According to the attorney.........

Well that sheds a different light on it for me. I used to work for VW and I can tell you this. People would have their phones blocked if it were stolen or lost and I could look to see if there had been any activity and identify the #s attempted. Didn't happen very often and I could NEVER see a text message.

fwiw

 

[natsound]

It can't, which is why Deb would not have done it; but a desperate abductor that wasn't aware of the restriction might attempt it.

How would a desperate abductor attempt it... twice... when he/she doesn't even know the access code to the voicemail?

This is some bullhockey we're getting from the attorneys.

The only scenario that makes sense, IMO, is that DB was up late, DB made the 11:57 call from her own phone, and DB checked her own voicemail twice because this phone was not restricted. An abductor would not know the code. Even if he tried once, he wouldn't try again 25 minutes later.

Is the drug scenario true that Megyn K is harping on? I don't know, because I really don't think DB knew MW. Is D (can we type his name) a drug dealer? Hasn't he already revealed as much on Facebook?