MSM coverage of Baby Lisa, 11/11/11

[In da Middle]

YOUNG said the parents are considered suspects.

When did he say that? Link? That is VERY dangerous territory for LE to delve into publicaly.

 

[cityslick]

Keep in mind that LE has not done a PRESS CONFERENCE is a very long time and if they were going to name someone a suspect, it would be out there in full force.

Just because we hear from the attorney that LE MIGHT have stated to the attorney's they are suspects, doesn't mean they actually are. It just maybe what the attorney's want out there in the media.

I took the quote from the atty to mean LE were treating his clients like they were suspects when, at this point, they are not.

 

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[Sparklin]

BBM: Exactly ... :waitasec: and WHY... IF you just kidnapped a baby, would you need to use the internet ?

Makes no sense at all ...

MOO ...

Unless you were trying to reach someone via facebook

 

[Sparklin]

No....he would have been calling from his WORK phone which has no restrictions. Her phone could get INCOMING calls according to numerous posters here. So this part fits quite accurately into the scenario of restricted phone usage.

jmo

Apparently, per the new lawyer though, even Jeremys call said the phone was inactive at this time.

 

[Donjeta]

Picerno reiterated that Bradley and Irwin would not be questioned by police separately, saying he didn't want them to be "subjected to interrogation techniques." He said previous questioning "got nasty."

Read more: http://www.kansascity.com/2011/11/11/3260539/family-of-missing-kc-baby-mark.html#ixzz1dRYdCMaE


So what is it about being questioned separately? Is there something they desperately need to stay synchronized about or is it just code for "we won't be questioned at all"?

 

[Donjeta]

The Kansas City Police Department, however, was quick to refute the claim, telling Fox News that the parents have not been told they are suspects.

"We have no suspects in the case," Kansas City police spokeswoman Stacey Graves said in an email to FoxNews.com.

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/11/1...till-missing-on-first-birthday/#ixzz1dRZyabJG

 

[cityslick]

Picerno reiterated that Bradley and Irwin would not be questioned by police separately, saying he didn't want them to be "subjected to interrogation techniques." He said previous questioning "got nasty."

Read more: http://www.kansascity.com/2011/11/11/3260539/family-of-missing-kc-baby-mark.html#ixzz1dRYdCMaE


So what is it about being questioned separately? Is there something they desperately need to stay synchronized about or is it just code for "we won't be questioned at all"?

They were questioned separate in the beginning. That would've been the best time to catch differences in the stories.

 

[JeannaT]

Picerno reiterated that Bradley and Irwin would not be questioned by police separately, saying he didn't want them to be "subjected to interrogation techniques." He said previous questioning "got nasty."

Read more: http://www.kansascity.com/2011/11/11/3260539/family-of-missing-kc-baby-mark.html#ixzz1dRYdCMaE


So what is it about being questioned separately? Is there something they desperately need to stay synchronized about or is it just code for "we won't be questioned at all"?

For those of us who watched the press conference, (and the link can still be found on this forum) did anyone hear Picerno say they couldn't be interviewed separately? I sure didn't. He did note that there isn't objection to that, in fact, they've done it for 30 hours.

LE, imho, has changed their minds about what to demand of these people in the interrogation, and has decided to drop the "no lawyer" requirement.

Which is great news.

Of course we can't know because LE doesn't hold press conferences and doesn't openly take unrehearsed questions from the media.

 

[tehcloser]

Oh sure we can believe the mean old lawyers........oh wait. It's LE that's mean.......oh lawd, I lost the plot........... :floorlaugh: It's been a long day hannit'??????????

 

[Sparklin]

DA: “You said that what you have been told has been lies, what do you mean by that?”
DB: “During interrogation, ‘We found this.’ They showed me burnt clothes, they showed me a f, a doppler thing with pings from a, that my cell phones and, um, I’m led to believe at this point that none of that was real. I hope the burnt clothes weren’t real. “

Courtesy of notmykids
Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community - View Single Post - compare the parent's statements to media here

It makes no sense. Why is she led to believe none of that was real? How the heck is she to know what kind of ping chart the abductor did with her phone or what happened to Lisa's clothing? Why is she hoping that the clothes aren't real, why isn't she hoping that they're a real lead and someone saw something at that dumpster fire that will lead to the abductor and to Lisa?

Thanks...but I was responding to this comment (cropped & bolded by me):

Originally Posted by Donjeta If they were charred beyond all recognition then how does she know LE was lying to her and they're in fact not Lisa's unless she knows what happened to Lisa's clothing?

 

[katydid23]

If they tried calling MW's phone, but it cut out, not knowing it went to payment centre, they may have thought someone had called back and were checking....

The thing is, when you try and dial out with a restricted phone, there is NO DOUBT that you reached the payment center instead of the call you wanted to make. When you dial the number you want to reach, it makes a weird alarm type sound IMMEDIATELY, and says LOUDLY, " we are sorry, but this call cannot be completed until the current bill is brought up to date." There would be no mistaking the fact that the call did not go through, imo.

 

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[Donjeta]

For those of us who watched the press conference, (and the link can still be found on this forum) did anyone hear Picerno say they couldn't be interviewed separately? I sure didn't. He did note that there isn't object to that, in fact, they've done it for 30 hours.

LE, imho, has changed their minds about what to demand of these people in the interrogation, and has decided to drop the "no lawyer" requirement.

Which is great news.

Of course we can't know because LE doesn't hold press conferences and doesn't openly take unrehearsed questions from the media.

JMO but the taped presser isn't the only place where media could have got a quote from the attorney.

The hours they've been interviewed appear to be very flexible.

I don't believe LE has ever had a no lawyer requirement. I don't think it works that way. The parents have acquired legal representation and that's it IMO. LE can't say you can't have it.

In the end it's all moot anyway because the parents aren't going to be reinterviewed in any way or form if they can avoid it. JMO.

 

[Sparklin]

And the interesting thing is, JI said in the People Magazine October 31st edition that he did not phone home because the phones could not receive calls.

He obviously DIDN'T call home if it went to call center...perhaps that was when he realized they were cut off..

 

[katydid23]

Picerno reiterated that Bradley and Irwin would not be questioned by police separately, saying he didn't want them to be "subjected to interrogation techniques." He said previous questioning "got nasty."

Read more: http://www.kansascity.com/2011/11/11/3260539/family-of-missing-kc-baby-mark.html#ixzz1dRYdCMaE


So what is it about being questioned separately? Is there something they desperately need to stay synchronized about or is it just code for "we won't be questioned at all"?

I think it is because LE was trying to pit them against each other. And also, they were saying things like " Your wife says you have a bad temper." OR " Your husband says that you drink excessively and may have accidentally harmed the baby." So they want to stay together so LE cannot try that tactic. imo

 

[Pensfan]

I just listened to the Fox News video.


Deborah and Jeremy's attorney states, “Cell phone pings went 1/5 mile to 1/3 mile which includes wooded area and all the way down to banks of Missouri River.”
http://foxnewsinsider.com/2011/11/1...ley’s-phone-the-night-lisa-disappeared/

 

[IrishMist]

The thing is, when you try and dial out with a restricted phone, there is NO DOUBT that you reached the payment center instead of the call you wanted to make. When you dial the number you want to reach, it makes a weird alarm type sound IMMEDIATELY, and says LOUDLY, " we are sorry, but this call cannot be completed until the current bill is brought up to date." There would be no mistaking the fact that the call did not go through, imo.

Wow! My boss's phone doesn't do that at all- it just quits working. As far as I know though, the only call he can make is to the cell phone company to pay his bill.

 

[Donjeta]

Thanks...but I was responding to this comment (cropped & bolded by me):

That's what I was addressing by the quote. She replies to the question about the lies that she's been told by listing the alleged lies.

 

[JeannaT]

JMO but the taped presser isn't the only place where media could have got a quote from the attorney.

The hours they've been interviewed appear to be very flexible.

I don't believe LE has ever had a no lawyer requirement. I don't think it works that way. The parents have acquired legal representation and that's it IMO. LE can't say you can't have it.

In the end it's all moot anyway because the parents aren't going to be reinterviewed in any way or form if they can avoid it. JMO.

Well, I guess time will tell. I wish I'da taken bets on this board whether the boys would be interviewed this week as Joe T had stated they would. I could be rich rich rich. ;D

In my opinion, now that it appears to me (via Cyndy Short's statement that LE only wanted to interview them without attorneys) that now that LE appears to have changed their minds on that, my guess is the Irwins will be in for questioning quite soon. With their attorney.

Just my guess, not backed up by quotes.