MSM coverage of Baby Lisa, 11/11/11

[Karmaa]

YOUNG said the parents are considered suspects.

YOUNG said that? really? When? Please link! Thanks!

 

[Kamille]

Since Stanton is big time it would make sense that he has people working for him and he is coordinating. Being high profile he would be unable to move about without attracting attention.

I was under the impression that he was not licensed in the state of Missouri so are we to believe that he's hired other investigators who are? I think the extent of his "investigating" is reading here and other boards and taking theories and getting information from them and then passing them on to JT. It wouldn't be the first time in a case IMO.

 

[Abby Normal]

as far as what ive read it was the afternoon of oct 3rd the cells were restricted

coincidence? :innocent:

Where did you read that? Just curious

 

[3doglady]

Why bother? If LE is looking for information to find the baby, they SHOULD bother. If they won't bother then it's pretty obvious that the intention is to try and get the parents to confess. And, that's been the point all along. Why would the parents go do that - guilty or innocent?

If the questions are really about finding the baby, then LE should be willing to ask them anywhere and by any means necessary - even by asking the lawyers to go between.

I agree. LE said parents refuse to answer vital questions because they refuse to be interviewed separately. Huh? If it's a vital question couldn't LE just ask the attorney to get the answer? At the same time LE said the parents are cooperating. :waitasec:

 

[In da Middle]

Since Stanton is big time it would make sense that he has people working for him and he is coordinating. Being high profile he would be unable to move about without attracting attention.

Well it seems to me that his 'team' is not sharing information with him. He is constantly misstating things as fact.
eta- I have heard a few of them state who they are working for and none of them are saying they are working for him. I will clarify this with I do not know who all of them are working for though. I also have not talked to any of my neighbors who are definitely being interviewed that say his team is doing the investigating.

 

[yllek]

Since Stanton is big time it would make sense that he has people working for him and he is coordinating. Being high profile he would be unable to move about without attracting attention.

Plus, he is not licensed as a PI in MO. Maybe he has a local PI or two to do the leg work, similar to how Tacopina is not licensed in MO and needs a local attorney to work under him. Just a thought. What's confusing about that though, Stanton said no one on the parents' team had contacted Megan (he seemed surprised she existed when she came out in the media, imo) and no mention about he or anyone on the team talking to Shane, Dane, Mr. Brando, etc... Maybe they have, but if there's anything incriminating against them (that doesn't also incriminate the parents) you'd think we'd have heard about it as much or more than the blob (maybe not these folks' names, but their relationship to the case and why they are suspicious). It was just today that Picerno was the first of the parents' team to specifically throw out Jersey and Megan in MSM, the two questioned figures that we've known about the longest. All quite murky, imo.

It is truly confusing trying to determine Stanton's role and goal here. Maybe he himself no longer knows? JMO...

 

[heidisams]

So, vm was checked... hmm.. I ping pong between DB and Jersey as far as theories go. And according to the reports today about vm, the logical thing to me would be DB being the one checking it wondering where in the heck her man was..?? Maybe she was checking to see if vm could still be working? We don't even know for sure when DB learned that the phones were restricted. Are there any confirmed times on these vm's???

 

[3doglady]

I was under the impression that he was not licensed in the state of Missouri so are we to believe that he's hired other investigators who are? I think the extent of his "investigating" is reading here and other boards and taking theories and getting information from them and then passing them on to JT. It wouldn't be the first time in a case IMO.

Or maybe he's consulting a psychic. :floorlaugh:

 

[Kamille]

Plus, he is not licensed as a PI in MO. Maybe he has a local PI or two to do the leg work, similar to how Tacopina is not licensed in MO and needs a local attorney to work under him. Just a thought. What's confusing about that though, Stanton said no one on the parents' team had contacted Megan (he seemed surprised she existed when she came out in the media, imo) and no mention about he or anyone on the team talking to Shane, Dane, Mr. Brando, etc... Maybe they have, but if there's anything incriminating against them (that doesn't also incriminate the parents) you'd think we'd have heard about it as much or more than the blob (maybe not these folks' names, but their relationship to the case and why they are suspicious). It was just today that Picerno was the first of the parents' team to specifically throw out Jersey and Megan in MSM, the two questioned figures that we've known about the longest. All quite murky, imo.

It is truly confusing trying to determine Stanton's role and goal here. Maybe he himself no longer knows? JMO...

MW has indicated that someone from Cyndy Short's office had been in touch with her.

 

[Karmaa]

Sorry - removed post - was getting dangerously close to cell-phone territory

 

[highflyer]

I was under the impression that he was not licensed in the state of Missouri so are we to believe that he's hired other investigators who are? I think the extent of his "investigating" is reading here and other boards and taking theories and getting information from them and then passing them on to JT. It wouldn't be the first time in a case IMO.

I haven't a clue about what he actually doing. It was seemed like he would be too high profile to move about unnoticed so I assumed he is coordinating and since he is unlicensed in the state of Missouri he would most likely hire PI's that were and direct their efforts. As far as Stanton or anyone else working on the case such as law enforcement, the law team etc. reading things on the internet and passing them on, it would be foolish to waste such a valuable tool at your disposal.

 

[Sparklin]

Picerno said that the defense also is conducting its own independent investigation of Lisa’s disappearance, but declined to discuss specifics of the effort.

Read more: http://www.kansascity.com/2011/11/11/3260417/baby-lisas-attorney-explains-parents.html#ixzz1dRqvZfZI


What do you reckon this private investigation consists of? Bill Stanton does not appear to do any investigating, as far as I can tell.

I don't think he's allowed to though is he? I know that MW did say that she was interviewed by a PI. I think the investigators work for the lawyers office. Like when Cindy said she had 17 (7?) people working this case. To my mind BS needs to just go home and JT should go back to Rome. I'm hoping this new guy works out and convinces D/J to talk to LE...whatever the outcome! This can't go on forever. I know the benefactor is rich, but is she willing to pay these high prices gurus indefinitely? Doubtful!

 

[Sparklin]

I personally think JI did not know the phones were out of service for non-payment until Deb told him the next morning. Thus, he could go along with that statement. Why would he try to call her if he knew the phones did not work. I just don't think he knew they were inoperable that evening.

The phones didn't go out of service until some time in the afternoon of Oct.3rd, so he might not have known until he tried calling.

 

[josie1986]

Or maybe he's consulting a psychic. :floorlaugh:

i've been expecting a psychic(s) to chime in for weeks :floorlaugh:


we need me monk on this case :woohoo::floorlaugh:

 

[yllek]

MW has indicated that someone from Cyndy Short's office had been in touch with her.

Thanks Kamille. I think I remember that. Things that happened 3 or 4 weeks ago in this case seem like 3 or 4 months ago, imo.

I still don't think anyone on the parents' team ever proactively mentioned anything about Megan or a female recipient of a call from a stolen phone in MSM before today though (except Stanton saying he hadn't spoken with her when Judge Jeanine asked him the day after Megan came out in media). Short never mentioned any recipient of an alleged phone call from Debbi's phone publicly. Til today, Megan and the media were the only ones talking about whose number was called. Not LE, not anyone on the parents' team. Don't know if there was some strategic reason for Picerno to do it today or if he was just responding to all the media surrounding the phone calls over the last couple of weeks. Interesting to me...

 

[Sparklin]

Why bother? If LE is looking for information to find the baby, they SHOULD bother. If they won't bother then it's pretty obvious that the intention is to try and get the parents to confess. And, that's been the point all along. Why would the parents go do that - guilty or innocent?

If the questions are really about finding the baby, then LE should be willing to ask them anywhere and by any means necessary - even by asking the lawyers to go between.

I think I <3 you :great:

 

[Karmaa]

Did anyone see this? I haven't seen it come up, but I have been mostly skimming posts today:

"Police have questioned John "Jersey" Tanko, a handyman who worked in the area, and James Brando, who lived next door to baby Lisa and moved out just hours before her parents reported her missing.

Kansas City Police said they have "moved on" from both men, but KCPD spokesman Capt. Steve Young said Friday that no one has been cleared in case new information arises that warrants a review. Tanko is in jail on separate charges."

So, "moved on" definitely does not mean "cleared", according to LE.

http://www.kctv5.com/story/16017789...hday-and-still-few-clues?clienttype=printable

 

[Just K]

Picerno reiterated that Bradley and Irwin would not be questioned by police separately, saying he didn't want them to be "subjected to interrogation techniques." He said previous questioning "got nasty."

Read more: http://www.kansascity.com/2011/11/11/3260539/family-of-missing-kc-baby-mark.html#ixzz1dRYdCMaE


So what is it about being questioned separately? Is there something they desperately need to stay synchronized about or is it just code for "we won't be questioned at all"?

many of us spoke on this antagonistic tone that seems to emanate from the B/I Team re: LE.

It really seems like the lawyers are baiting LE...as if to say, "bring it on..." The legal team wants the upper hand and right now they have it. Because, they know that LE can't get much further, in the investigation, without someone giving them something/information to go on. LE is missing vital pieces to the puzzle and they need to break up the DB/JI team to get to the bottom of this tangled web.

The DT wants them to arrest one of them now because then no one will be required to meet with or talk to anyone in LE. This is collusion at it's finest.

If the couple were innocent of all involvement in the disappearance of Lisa...one of them would agree to be questioned separately. If one of the couple would agree then there would be absolutely nothing the other could do to stop that from happening. BUT, this Legal Team is doing everything they can to keep DB & JI under their control and out of the public eye. Reminds me of what cults do to their new devotees.

 

[Just K]

They were questioned separate in the beginning. That would've been the best time to catch differences in the stories.

A lot has come out since those first three days and many witnesses have come forward, including the motorcycle man, since they last sat down separately with investigators.

 

[Karmaa]

many of us spoke on this antagonistic tone that seems to emanate from the B/I Team re: LE.

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Really? Many of us have spoken about the antagonistic tone that LE took against B/I team when they started the garbage that the family HAD STOPPED COOPERATING. The family immediately rebutted that, and ever since it has been a circus. But LE has had to say, over and over, that the family IS answering questions, while still trying to maintain that they are not cooperating.

I am offended by that, and I am not related to the family - and I don't know if they are guilty or innocent. But I think that LE took off the gloves and slapped that family's face with them early on.