Found Deceased MT - Rebekah Barsotti 33, & dog (fnd deceased), Town Pump, Superior, Mineral Co, 20 Jul 2021 *Reward

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  • #541
The article announcing the family had hired Mike Toth is dated Nov 1, 2018. Only 2 days later, on Nov 3, 2018, the body was found. The discovery of the body had nothing to do with Toth, nothing to do with psychics.
I think it important to view the information about "psychics", without editing, as shown in the article:
(Reporter) "Q: What are the theories about what happened?

(Toth) A: We've had a wide range. We've had psychics reach out to us. We've had family members tell us stuff and friends tell us stuff."
Nowhere does Toth state that he consulted with or believed in consulting with psychics.
As far as appointments/elections of LE in the U.S., with very few exceptions, our sheriffs are elected by citizens served in unincorporated areas of counties, the sheriff serves and answers to these citizens, without answering to anyone elected on a political party platform. Chiefs of police departments are usually selected/appointed by the elected mayor, executive, council, etc. and they answer to their city officials. I don't think elected officials are any more at risk for conflict of interest than are appointments.

I believe the issue here is small town dynamics. The population of Mineral County is about 4,250 and the population of Superior is about 700. It has been suggested that Sheriff Toth has a connection to/relationship with RB's estranged husband DB and is protecting him from being investigated in her disappearance. The vet who did the autopsy on RB's dog was apparently also good friends with DB. It seems everyone knows everyone and has connections to everyone in these small rural communities. MOO
 
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I believe the issue here is small town dynamics. The population of Mineral County is about 4,250 and the population of Superior is about 700. It has been suggested that Sheriff Toth has a connection to/relationship with RB's estranged husband DB and is protecting him from being investigated in her disappearance. The vet who did the autopsy on RB's dog was apparently also good friends with DB. It seems everyone knows everyone and has connections to everyone in these small rural communities. MOO
The issue I addressed was an edited quote that misrepresented what Toth said about psychics, the poster made it seems like he used psychics in one case(as a private citizen/private investigator) but he would not, as a sheriff, in the Barsotti case. "Whats good for the goose, etc" Since the poster is critical of our system of elections and appointments of LE, I thought they should at least understand why we do both in our systems.
The issue isn't small town dynamics, the issue is postings that have no factual basis, such as the vet is good friend rumors, and the sheriff should never be accused of not performing his duties without any links or proof.
 
  • #543
The issue I addressed was an edited quote that misrepresented what Toth said about psychics, the poster made it seems like he used psychics in one case(as a private citizen/private investigator) but he would not, as a sheriff, in the Barsotti case. "Whats good for the goose, etc" Since the poster is critical of our system of elections and appointments of LE, I thought they should at least understand why we do both in our systems.
The issue isn't small town dynamics, the issue is postings that have no factual basis, such as the vet is good friend rumors, and the sheriff should never be accused of not performing his duties without any links or proof.

True, these are only rumors, but protecting a well known member of a small town from what are considered to be outsiders (RB and her family) by locals is hardly unheard of. MOO
 
  • #544
The issue I addressed was an edited quote that misrepresented what Toth said about psychics, the poster made it seems like he used psychics in one case(as a private citizen/private investigator) but he would not, as a sheriff, in the Barsotti case. "Whats good for the goose, etc" Since the poster is critical of our system of elections and appointments of LE, I thought they should at least understand why we do both in our systems.
The issue isn't small town dynamics, the issue is postings that have no factual basis, such as the vet is good friend rumors, and the sheriff should never be accused of not performing his duties without any links or proof.

Just to complete the record: Toth lost the election several years ago; recently, the then-sheriff retired (changing his retirement date so that the council could appoint a new sheriff rather than have an election) and Toth was appointed.
 
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s hard to think about this possibility, but if this does happen, this does not mean that Rebekah drowned. If Rebekah's family can find the money to have a second autopsy done out of state by a pathologist with no connection to the investigation in Montana, this would be a smart choice. I would give as an example a questionable autopsy done in Montana where a person died and was found sometime later in a body of water. The second autopsy, done out of state and paid for by the family, found some serious flaws in the state's autopsy. Sorry, I cannot mention the name in this thread. Also consider diatoms.
Just to complete the record: Toth lost the election several years ago; recently, the then-sheriff retired (changing his retirement date so that the council could appoint a new sheriff rather than have an election) and Toth was appointed.
He is the Interim Sheriff
 
  • #546
He is the Interim Sheriff

I'm not sure what your "thing" is here. Is there something you want to point out, proof? You seem "jumpy" on this topic...why? Because, as far as I'm concerned, this is a thread about Rebekah Rose missing case. Not a political discussion about Sheriff's elections or whatsoever. Do you have an opinion about this case, how it is handled or whatever. What are your thoughts about it?
 
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Yes...wow....:eek: :confused:....totally scary.......

What's scary is that this is totally made up and there is no evidence that this scenario ever happened in Montana.
I think the statement that there is no police oversight (groovy) in the United States, is ....I have no words
 
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What's scary is that this is totally made up and there is no evidence that this scenario ever happened in Montana.
I think the statement that there is no police oversight (groovy) in the United States, is ....I have no words

Djeez, what is totally made up? Don't get you? Dual positions is a feeding ground for corruption, non-integrity. Not saying there are persons who could perfectly separate it, but either your are blind...or non-critical. All IMO, no hard feelings.
 
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I'm not sure what your "thing" is here. Is there something you want to point out, proof? Because, as far as I'm concerned, this is a thread about Rebekah Rose missing case. Not a political discussion about Sheriff's elections or whatsoever. Do you have an opinion about this case, how it is handled or whatever. What are your thoughts about it.
I would ask that you read further as my posts were only in response to someone else's (political) post. Making sarcastic, derogatory statements about LE and /or our systems of governing should not be tolerated, in my opinion.
 
  • #550
What's scary is that this is totally made up and there is no evidence that this scenario ever happened in Montana.
I think the statement that there is no police oversight (groovy) in the United States, is ....I have no words
 
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Djeez, what is totally made up? Don't get you? Dual positions is a feeding ground for corruption, non-integrity. Not saying there are persons who could perfectly separate it, but either your are blind...or?
That scenario of an officer being a private investigator while on duty,double dipping, it didn't happen, absolutely no evidence it was attempted, all of us know full well that we have police oversight in this country. That is not what a dual position is
 
  • #552
I would ask that you read further as my posts were only in response to someone else's (political) post. Making sarcastic, derogatory statements about LE and /or our systems of governing should not be tolerated, in my opinion.

Kind of strange isn't it? People are not making statements in general...It's about this particular case and what went on...or what hasn't been done. Looking from the outside in....we, people are looking different on things, and there is nothing wrong with it.
 
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I would ask that you read further as my posts were only in response to someone else's (political) post. Making sarcastic, derogatory statements about LE and /or our systems of governing should not be tolerated, in my opinion.

Are you LE, involved in this case? Just asking? Because then I could totally understand your reaction. You seem so angry and I just can't understand why.
 
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Are you LE, involved in this case? Just asking?
Never been there, don't know anyone involved, live several states away, own a Belgian Malinois, only reason I started following. Be glad to prove via mods, I could not possibly be involved in any way. It would be extremely inappropriate for any LE involved or even working in the county to comment here.
 
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Never been there, don't know anyone involved, live several states away, own a Belgian Malinois, only reason I started following. Be glad to prove via mods, I could not possibly be involved in any way.

Love the dogs, they are beautiful. Did you by any chance breed Cerberus?
 
  • #556
In many government entities, conflicts of interest OR EVEN THE APPEARANCE are prohibited. The standard evident in this case is terrible.

"Making sarcastic, derogatory statements about LE and /or our systems of governing" is protected by our First Amendment (to The Constitution).
 
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Never been there, don't know anyone involved, live several states away, own a Belgian Malinois, only reason I started following. Be glad to prove via mods, I could not possibly be involved in any way. It would be extremely inappropriate for any LE involved or even working in the county to comment here.

I agree...about LE commenting on here....but things happen...and as we don't know who is commenting...it could be anybody..with good or bad intentions....I guess good. I have been just long enough around to meet very angry family members for digging stuff up....people who have found dead bodies, even missing persons scalding at us, because they want to be left alone.
 
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In many government entities, conflicts of interest OR EVEN THE APPEARANCE are prohibited. The standard evident in this case is terrible.

"Making sarcastic, derogatory statements about LE and /or our systems of governing" is protected by our First Amendment (to The Constitution).
This is Websleuths...governed by mods

I don't know what conflict of interest has been found.
 
  • #560
@Gina20 was Mike Toth instrumental in the finding of Cam Collin?

I've read everything I can find about this case, and on another post, I repeated some of what was in the news article. Authorities flew a helicopter over the area, saw his body. This was only two days after it was announced that Toth was hired by the family.
 
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