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There are signs of forced entry.
Yes, I’m sorry, I meant no disrespect to NG just making a generalized dumb joke

moo
 
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And one of the only motives that made sense to me was a possible family member wanting an inheritance.

Sister's car was just towed by LE? That is major.
 
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I know my Mother has friends, I don't know who they are, or their phone numbers. Nor do they have my information. I don't have my kids friends names, or phone numbers. Nor do they know my friends or have their phone numbers.

So it just seems odd to me.
Really?? I have known most of my mother's friends for decades. I know their names, their children and grandchildren's names. Many of them attended my wedding. I either have their phone numbers or I could easily get them (google has most).
 
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Anyone else wonder how Entin got so close to the door to film the blood and such? I imagine that a defense attorney would have a field day with an unsecured crime scene like that.

JMO.
It had been released back to the family. He's not guilty of anything but walking up to the door of a private residence.

MOO
 
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It’s called expirated blood and pics online look like that
If the tiny drops are splatter from expirated blood, then there are two sources of the blood since expirated blood would not cause the larger more formed drops. I guess both of these patterns could be seen in a nose bleed which can occur with minimal trauma in a person taking blood thinners.
 
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Was NG wealthy? And how many sons/daughters did she have who would be in line for the inheritance? I can't imagine wanting the inheritance was the motivation, but who knows what goes through some peoples minds?
 
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How big of a part was she going to play, or I guess how visible? Was she going to be there the whole time? If she was opening night was it just her, or was she co-anchoring with someone else? I think this theory is possible because the timing IS rather curious but it might depend on how involved she was going to be.

I’m also not entirely sure what the thinking would be for targeting mom. For some kind of protest or political message I would think they would rather just go after SG and not her family, or do something to sabotage the opening ceremony. Abducting her mother wouldn’t make much sense to me for that. But I guess you never know.

Have they said yet who is going to fill in for her?

moo
I guess I’m not understanding the Olympic aspect of it. Usually there are multiple people covering the games, so I’m not sure she would be singled out for that. I believe it’s for a different reason. JMO
 
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Or a cough type thing. I kept thinking would that mean she was laying on the ground for that spot? I'm sorry to say that.
I would think laying on the ground would cause some if not most of the bigger droplets to smear but it may indicate her face being pointed to and perhaps near the ground
 
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Or a cough type thing. I kept thinking would that mean she was laying on the ground for that spot? I'm sorry to say that.
Yeah, that looks like blood from a cough or a sneeze, very close, as in, lying there. If someone was even a foot away, it would be over a much larger area. That it's that closely grouped means their face was right there.

And they should be able to tell if it was that rather than blood from a high impact, because if it came from the mouth or nose it would have saliva and/or mucus mixed in.

MOO
 
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I guess I’m not understanding the Olympic aspect of it. Usually there are multiple people covering the games, so I’m not sure she would be singled out for that. I believe it’s for a different reason. JMO
I don’t either, really the only thing would be the timing of it all but as I said if that were the case I’d think they would just go after SG not her mom

moo
 
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If you are a family member who wants the person dead for insurance why would you hide the person/body? Maybe if you are worried that your DNA would be found on the body -- finger nail scrapings etc. Speculating. JMO.
 
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Where is Nancy??
 
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Re Banfield's reporting that AG's car was taken as evidence, wondering if AG consented to this or if LE got a warrant.
 
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What are your thoughts on why LE would have sent the ransom note to Savannah?

I can’t figure out why that would be done? I mean why say Savannah and not “the family” ?
Investigators have analyzed the note and are taking it seriously, Nanos said.

He said the FBI reviewed the note and made the decision to share it with Savannah Guthrie.
They are probably trying to determine if the note is legit/ from the actual kidnappers so they shared it with Savannah and Annie to gain more clarity. Also it would be up to Savannah if she chooses to pay the kidnapping ransom on the off chance that her mother is still alive and will be set free if ransom is paid. Detectives know she has the means to pay though they may try hard to dissuade her from doing so.

It would be unethical to keep the note from Savannah if they think it could be legit.

I think Nancy was taken to Mexico - injured but alive- and that her kidnapping is cartel related.
The wording with the Thursday/ Monday business for paying or killing Nancy sounds to me a lot like what someone from a country with a large number of kidnappings (Mexico/ Venezuela) would say. This isn’t their first rodeo. They could also be moving Nancy around to various remote houses in Mexico if she is alive.

I really want to believe that Nancy is alive and will be retrieved alive.

Yesterday I was convinced this was a perverted deviant who attacked Nancy but today I think this was a targeted kidnapping to extort money from Savannah (who they know has deep pockets.) I’m not fully convinced that this was an inside job- could just be someone that found out Nancy lived in Tucson and did some snooping.
After all, a lot of private information was shared on several occasions on a major TV network with millions of viewers. Somebody could have seen this and started spinning their wheels.

In any case, I’m praying for an Elizabeth Smart miracle for Nancy.
She’s tough and mentally strong and will fight to stay alive imho.
 
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If you are a family member who wants the person dead for insurance why would you hide the person/body? Maybe if you are worried that your DNA would be found on the body -- finger nail scrapings etc. Speculating. JMO.
What’s usually the clause in life insurance policies for disappearances? I think suicides aren’t paid out if I recall correctly but is there some kind of waiting period if the person just disappears?

moo
 
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I don't think it's political. I don't think this had anything to do with SG covering the Olympics.

I think it was committed by at least one, and probably two, people who had worked around the premises. I believe they knew who SG was and thought they could extort money from her by kidnapping her mother.

I'd be looking at any and all contractors and employees who worked for her, especially contractors who recently performed short-term work, like redoing a chimney, redoing a water heater, temporary landscaping and needing to work inside the home.

Just my musings.

I’ve had a feeling person is close to mother or adult kids. Maybe because the Ohio case with the dentist and wife is so recent, but if not current so ex or person hired. I think the family members will be talking with LEO and be filling in gaps that are not made public. I hate that anyone tries to monetize from this horrific tragedy. JMO
 
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If you are a family member who wants the person dead for insurance why would you hide the person/body? Maybe if you are worried that your DNA would be found on the body -- finger nail scrapings etc. Speculating. JMO.
Yes because DNA would point to you
 
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Notes from the video (all of this info comes from Banfield’s unnamed LE source):

- The cameras were Nest cameras and were smashed

- <modsnip: Removed reference to information that has NOT been confirmed by LE> — police have towed the car belonging AG and impounded it as evidence

- Blood was found inside

- Her Apple Watch was left in the home

- The back door of the home was left wide open
Yes, lots of interesting info, including the fact that SG is an attorney. Didn't know that. <modsnip: Removed reference to information that has NOT been confirmed by LE>
 
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