AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

[Charlot123]

I have been trying to think what is the item she WASN'T wearing that was mentioned in the note. I know watch has been thrown around, but I don't know. Is there something else that would be very obvious to those who knew her that she wasn't wearing? It couldn't be a specific piece of jewellery unless they knew her well and she usually wore it. Family might be able to confirm this.

I doubt its a piece of clothing, but did she wear a wig or hair piece?

A wig or a hairpiece is a good idea. Maybe, a hearing aid?

Also, her pacemaker was synchronized with Apple, they say. Could it be Apple watch? Did they leave it behind?.

Savannah Guthrie’s missing mom’s pacemaker stopped syncing with her Apple Watch — as cops give updates

Nancy Guthrie’s pacemaker reportedly stopped syncing with her Apple devices predawn Sunday morning – as the Arizona sheriff leading the missing person case called a surprise press conference.

nypost.com

If so, it might be a better thought over plan than I thought.

"Proof of life". The relatives said that Nancy Guthrie was on the medication that she needed to take daily. With the pacemaker, I'd hazard, it could be a blood thinner. Might be something else, but blood in the house also might point at Nancy being on an anticoagulant.

So, depending on coagulation status and sheer luck, missing one day may be fatal or a person could stay off it for a week.

If they left an Apple watch at home and it was synchronized with the pacemaker, maybe this is all that they said.

They didn't want anyone to get "proof of life" from the devices when they were abducting Nancy. In fact, the whole ransom note is based on no one being able to check Nancy's status.

So. My dad had afib and a pacemaker. It was an old model, put in years ago, not synchronizable with anything but a very good one. All I know about the devices is just from this, and similar, experiences. I am not a cardiologist nor a nurse that sees these things daily.

But: these people seem to have understood the risk they were taking.

What does it tell us:

They have some experience with pacemakers. They are not some unhoused vagabonds, they probably understand the principle of synchronizing with the Apple watch, or can figure it out fast. They saw it somewhere. Either they are in a medical field, or a relative has a similar device. Or a YouTube video.

They probably knew that Nancy had a pacemaker and was on meds? Perhaps? Likely?

Now the sheriff said something about the camera across the street being out of order? So, they were prepared.

Just my wild guess - they probably demanded a very high ransom but... not insurmountable for the family.

They have a viable cryptocurrency account.

Now about an anticoagulant. Nancy is an old woman, probably, on Medicaire but with her daughter being an earner, can afford something better than Coumadine. Such as Xarelto or Eliquis.

(What she takes makes a difference. I am not explaining why here.)

"Or else", sadly, is a valid possibility. But as long as they hope for a ransom, they are also not interested in going that route. What if they will need to use "proof of life"?

They are in a horrible rush, because they abducted an old woman who is physically fragile. Hence, ransom notes to TMZ and the police.

So I think that they somehow know Nancy, maybe not close but are aware of her issues and understand these things.

They are probably not kids but young enough to deal with cameras, cryptocurrency. Sturdy as to carry a person of her height/weight out takes some strength.

Either their relative knows Nancy but not close or they have an older relative with similar issues.

What comes to my mind... you know, the pharmacies offer delivery of meds to the house? Uber or Lyft?

Could Nancy, living alone and at 84, use a local pharmacy and have meds delivered to her house?

I don't think the case is political. I don't think it is sexual. I think it is for ransom, that the person perfectly well knows who she is and the family's situation but is not someone on their radar.

I'd check the medical aspects. Who was aware and understood the nature of her problems.

I don't know if it is late or not. But I think they can be figured out.

JMO.

ETA: I missed the SIL part. Going back to follow up. Still keeping my post to compare later what the real story was.

 

[mpnola]

Brian Entins video, I paused, slowed, rewound it so many times. No mention of the glass by the doormat, but it clearly seemed to be glass. But no apparent broken window pane. Then when Banfield said they SMASHED the Nest cameras, I saw that is exactly where that glass is. I wouldn't have expected that much glass from a door camera, but I don't know. It certainly looks like tempered glass shards and it is in that exact spot of the ground.

 

[Cottonn]

Here is Brian Entin's latest video: (34 min length)

On the scene: blood found at Nancy Guthrie’s home, ripped off ring camera, and ransom notes​

I just find it odd that someone who would rip a Ring camera off the wall would also be someone who would request 1 million in bitcoin. These two things are at opposite ends of the techie spectrum. Nearly everything about this case is irrational and makes zero sense. I really think whoever did this is crazy and not of sound mind or drug addled but because I think they're crazy and not of sound mind that leaves hope that she is still alive. A normal criminal would've taken her to atm made her withdraw money etc. these are motives that one can understand. I think the ransom if it was even done by the same person is just a ruse not expected to be paid but just another chapter that they think makes sense but to everyone else is insane and just increasing the odds they are captured. I pray whoever has done this is crazy enough to still have her and she is alive. I think he just might be.

 

[clearskies1]

Who went to the house after the church person advised that NG was not at church? AG? AG and TC? People have been noting the gap between when family was notified and when the family called LE. I don't know how long they were actually at the house before they called 911. JMO.

 

[iamshadow21]

I just find it odd that someone who would rip a Ring camera off the wall would also be someone who would request 1 million in bitcoin. These two things are at opposite ends of the techie spectrum. Nearly everything about this case is irrational and makes zero sense. I really think whoever did this is crazy and not of sound mind or drug addled but because I think they're crazy and not of sound mind that leaves hope that she is still alive. A normal criminal would've taken her to atm made her withdraw money etc. these are motives that one can understand. I think the ransom if it was even done by the same person is just a ruse not expected to be paid but just another chapter that they think makes sense but to everyone else is insane and just increasing the odds they are captured. I pray whoever has done this is crazy enough to still have her and she is alive. I think he just might be.

I would be incredibly surprised if the ransom has anything at all to do with her abduction or the people who took her.

It's like the Geordie in the Yorkshire Ripper case. An opportunist who likes attention.

Someone out there sees this as an incredible opportunity to profit from a terrible crime, and they're not as clever as they think they are. They're going to go to jail for it.

Very much MOO

 

[mpnola]

I just find it odd that someone who would rip a Ring camera off the wall would also be someone who would request 1 million in bitcoin. These two things are at opposite ends of the techie spectrum. Nearly everything about this case is irrational and makes zero sense. I really think whoever did this is crazy and not of sound mind or drug addled but because I think they're crazy and not of sound mind that leaves hope that she is still alive. A normal criminal would've taken her to atm made her withdraw money etc. these are motives that one can understand. I think the ransom if it was even done by the same person is just a ruse not expected to be paid but just another chapter that they think makes sense but to everyone else is insane and just increasing the odds they are captured. I pray whoever has done this is crazy enough to still have her and she is alive. I think he just might be.

Yeah I'm believing the ransom being legit less and less. Because why email Tues? Not Sunday? Not Monday? But then she will be harmed in a week? Either it's fake or world's worst random dude. Sadly, it would be the best case scenario here.

 

[simlyme]

Who went to the house after the church person advised that NG was not at church? AG? AG and TC? People have been noting the gap between when family was notified and when the family called LE. I don't know how long they were actually at the house before they called 911. JMO.

about 1 hour at the house.

 

[clearskies1]

about 1 hour at the house.

That's what I've heard but not sure where that info came from. Have not seen a source. Maybe I missed it.

 

[simlyme]

So just to add, Savanah was not in AZ when her mom went missing. How long did it take her to get there ? And who was there when the police arrived ? Just Annie and her husband , ? adds another twist !

 

[auburnmomof2]

I guess I’m not understanding the Olympic aspect of it. Usually there are multiple people covering the games, so I’m not sure she would be singled out for that. I believe it’s for a different reason. JMO

I was just brainstorming earlier and mentioned the Olympics angle as something that crossed my mind. I don't think this is related to SG covering the olympic games. However, I am beginning to wonder if this was planned to happen before she left the country. I'm not convinced the ransom angle is legitimate. But if this wasn't random and money was a motive, SG would be the most likely family member to have access to large amounts of money. All just my opinion

 

[Carovb5]

about 1 hour at the house.

I don’t think that’s that long. I’d check first if:
- she’s around, hurt somewhere in or outside
- she went to a neighbour (for help?)
- someone she knows picked het up, for instance to go to a doctor or the hospital (since they would have seen the blood)

That takes a little time. An hour flies by quickly

 

[clearskies1]

Could the "ransom note" be a diversion sent by the perpetrator? Making it appear to be a kidnapping for money instead of a homicide. The perpetrator would know what info to include in the note to make it seem real -- details from the crime scene. JMO.

 

[iamshadow21]

I would be incredibly surprised if the ransom has anything at all to do with her abduction or the people who took her.

It's like the Geordie in the Yorkshire Ripper case. An opportunist who likes attention.

Someone out there sees this as an incredible opportunity to profit from a terrible crime, and they're not as clever as they think they are. They're going to go to jail for it.

Very much MOO

I will caveat what I just said... IF the family did this and IF they also demanded the ransom, then it's probably motivated by anger at Savannah being more wealthy and assuming that she'd pay it. That they could assault, abduct, and probably murder Nancy to achieve that is despicable to contemplate.

MOO

 

[clearskies1]

Putting aside whatever did or didn't happen here, great disparity in wealth in a family is probably tricky. JMO.

 

[clearskies1]

Daily Mail report re FBI agents at AG's home:

FBI agents arrive at Savannah Guthrie's sister's $650k home

Exclusive Daily Mail photos show the moment agents descended on the $650,000 property, where Savannah Guthrie herself is also staying, just after 2.30pm local time.

www.dailymail.co.uk

 

[yurintroubl]

So earlier today - One of the sorta-news outlets had an article titled something like "Family member being interviewed in their $684K Home". May have been Daily Mail.

Wonder if they borrowed money from Mom to put a downpayment on that property... and now they are behind on their mortgage. Somebody with the ability should check to see if it's in forclosure.

 

[Kemug]

If I was Samantha, I don't think I could bear to stay in my (probably murdered) mother's house. Although it's no doubt preferable to staying with her sister and brotherinlaw. I'd rather be in a hotel, I think.

 

[Smokingun]

This article references the cameras ‘were’ present …it’s just sounding more like an inside job. There’s also a gem show in Tucson. I don’t know if that’s relevant, but the sister is in the jewelry business. As for the cameras…maybe removed while she/they went away on Sat. Seems it would be someone who knows a lot about her and her house.
https://www.newsnationnow.com/missing/nancy-guthrie-disappearance-reward-offered/

 

[Friday Fan]

I think Nancy was taken to Mexico - injured but alive- and that her kidnapping is cartel related.
The wording with the Thursday/ Monday business for paying or killing Nancy sounds to me a lot like what someone from a country with a large number of kidnappings (Mexico/ Venezuela) would say. This isn’t their first rodeo. They could also be moving Nancy around to various remote houses in Mexico if she is alive.

I really want to believe that Nancy is alive and will be retrieved alive.

Yesterday I was convinced this was a perverted deviant who attacked Nancy but today I think this was a targeted kidnapping to extort money from Savannah (who they know has deep pockets.) I’m not fully convinced that this was an inside job- could just be someone that found out Nancy lived in Tucson and did some snooping.
After all, a lot of private information was shared on several occasions on a major TV network with millions of viewers. Somebody could have seen this and started spinning their wheels.

In any case, I’m praying for an Elizabeth Smart miracle for Nancy.
She’s tough and mentally strong and will fight to stay alive imho.

And this happens how often??

Most kidnappings to Mexico involve non-custodial parents.

If cartels are involved, it doesn't look like this.....

 

[Charlot123]

So earlier today - One of the sorta-news outlets had an article titled something like "Family member being interviewed in their $684K Home". May have been Daily Mail.

Wonder if they borrowed money from Mom to put a downpayment on that property... and now they are behind on their mortgage. Somebody with the ability should check to see if it's in forclosure.

Or maybe, someone even gifts the inheritance in life, and the house is bought with their share of inheritance. And then, people know that they won't get more.

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