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If it is the backpack they are speculating it is, that brand is only sold by Walmart. That doesn't rule out that the perp bought it at a second hand store, was given the bag, or even stole or found it elsewhere.
Right, could be. They do mention the other two items as well, so at the least they can check the video if there indeed is a date they were purchased.
 
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Did he stop at a bar after dropping her off? I’ve heard speculation about it but never heard it verified. Or was this a different night? TIA
Someone here mentioned that going to a bar could be an alibi. Someone misread this and the bar keeps coming up. A rumor that keeps getting repeated. Imo
 
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Does both of these pictures look like the same person to you all? Apparenlty, Meghan Kelly was saying this onelooks like the person is wearing a different jacket, and that it's camo. It's too blurry for me to be sure of that. What do you all think?

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definitely looks cammo to me. mOO
 
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there’s been all this focus on SG’s fame and political interviews as being a possible motivator, but I just had a thought (I’m sure it’s not original): is it possible NG was kidnapped because of a beef or a debt owed by AG/TC? Sure, there are always wack jobs that are celebrity obsessed and it makes sense that the object of their ire may be SG, but what if it’s not?

AG and TC wouldn’t be able to pay that ransom (presumably) but SG could.
I thought the same.
 
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Did he stop at a bar after dropping her off? I’ve heard speculation about it but never heard it verified. Or was this a different night? TIA
It didn’t happen.
 
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Suspect's distinctive backpack, gloves and holster traced to Tucson Walmart

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Are those supposed to be the actual products?
Those aren’t the right kind of gloves. Those look like the kind that are dipped so the back of the hand area is just knit, but the palm side is latex or something.
jmo
 
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Thoughts & questions about the videos/stills of the guy at NG's door:
With/without the backpack -- possibilities:
  • Did he look into the entryway that night, see the nest doorbell, and then return with his head down and his pack full of burglary/kidnapping/murder tools, planning to disable it? (If so, he didn't think ahead about how he would do that & also shield his face, leading to the flowers.) Someone here also suggested he might be part of a cleanup crew.
  • Or did he stop by days in advance with the same goal, just on a longer timeline?
Why was he wearing hs backpack while disabling the camera? Possibilities:
  • Maybe he planned to immediately go around the side of the house and break in that way. (Though what about the cameras there?)
  • Maybe he thought an associate would open the door from the inside.
  • Maybe he planned to pick the lock once the camera was disabled. Maybe he had some sort of key.
  • Problems with expecting an "associate on the inside" to open the door-- he may have glanced at someone when getting the greenery. If so, would that person have had time to get in & then let him in? That said, once the camera was disabled, maybe he could wait there in leisure. Or was there one person to the side and one inside?
Question: In this video from the FBI, what's the guy doing with his left hand as he first reaches up with his right hand to block the camera?

The backpack
Thanks to those here who said it was an Ozark or similar. If so:
  • A cheap backpack. Not very good. No waist belt -- not good for heavy loads.
  • The Ozark has a sternum strap, which may be what we see hanging down. It looks kind of long for a sternum strap, but who knows. (The sternum strap can stabilize a pack & help some with weight.)
  • Assuming it was a sternum strap, he wasn't wearing it. Maybe after peering into the entryway, he went back and hastily threw on the pack. Maybe he never uses the sternum strap.
  • Even if it's 25 liters, not very big. Things that could make it look full -- a sweatshirt & light jacket OR A tarp. OR materials for a kidnapping or murder. OR burglary materials, including some large sacks for loot.
A law enforcement source close to the Guthrie investigation says they are familiar with the brand of backpack the suspect was wearing, possibly an Ozark Trail Hiker, and are looking into it and other brands.


JMO
 
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Traced to Walmart meaning Walmart sells them. Not traced in the sense they have a person who bought those items in the Tucson store. 🙄
Its still very good info to have!!
 
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I’ve lived in 2 states, many homes and have never had a system or a camera currently either
Old and live alone now, still don’t
Same here. My 18 year old high school senior son is still at home. And I have a German shepherd mix dog that alerts me to anything unusual around my house. I will probably get cameras after my son goes to college. I honestly could never make up my mind about a camera, live on a dead end street with neighbors who are attentive and have cameras. But when I do decide to get cameras, I will be getting the subscription 🤷‍♀️
 
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is it verified these items were bought at the walmart? Or is it just that Walmart carries them? The DM article is paywalled.
It's just that Walmart carries them.
 
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Does anyone know what happened to that blue shirt crumpled up on a rock on the side of NG’s front walk? Photo from AZcentral.com
There's a closer view of the blue shirt on . THIS VIDEO IS FROM FEB 10 AND IS NOT NEW.

I asked many pages ago if this had ever been mentioned, but haven't seen it anywhere. Not sure it means anything. Just weird how everything else has been analyzed to extreme, but this was there early and got no attention. But it may have zero significance.

I'm so confused about he video that TMZ just released. Where is that at. Is that the night of the kidnapping? Is that Nancy's garage? Or where?
 
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TMZ released the video, not law enforcement. They blurred the face to protect themselves from litigation if it turns out to be unrelated.

I’m sure it’s been forwarded to law enforcement.

This video, and another showing a guy trying car doors, are visually very compelling.
But why would a probably homeless guy suddenly decide to break into a house, and after encountering a mobility challenged 84 year old woman, decide to take her. And how in the world would he take her? I doubt he had a car with him.
 
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The security cameras at Walmart will have a good picture of whoever bought the items, so even a cash purchase will yield major evidence. If he used self checkout, even better. Those cameras are practically up your nostrils when they're recording.
The self-checkout cameras are incredibly unforgiving. Another reason to never commit a crime beyond the very obvious ones... risk of those photos being released to the public...! (all IMO and just a lighthearted joke about how I look in the self-checkout cameras)
 
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I dunno, I made time this morning for laundry, dishes, and a meal before checking the site and now I have no clue what's happening. Breaks are dangerous. ;)
Right?!
 
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