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It makes me wonder why these jammers are even legal to sell/buy.
Still praying for Nancy. 🌼🌼
They aren't in the US but you can get them online.
 
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It makes me wonder why these jammers are even legal to sell/buy.
Still praying for Nancy. 🌼🌼
It is illegal to operate, sell or import any signal jammers in the US. They are not sold on Amazon nor Ebay, but there are some online stores not in the US that advertise them for sale.
 
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I agree that the media is vital in this case and all cases like the ones we typically follow. There is no doubt that they would rather be covering it, if for the ad revenue alone, but unfortunately law enforcement took the case and ran away from them.

The withholding of the most basic information, along with what I feel are intentional contradictions being seeded within the public narrative, is unfortunate not merely for those of us who are captivated by the case and who care, but particularly for those who live nearby and in greater Tucson proper. Public safety is the foremost and most solemn duty of all elected officials and those who swore an oath and serve under them. "Protecting the integrity of the case" is secondary at best, but probably closer to tertiary.

In any case, I suppose the next election will likely take care of any of that.

JMO.
I agree. The absence of information is the catalyst for rumors. I've noticed that many podcasts have been really reaching to continue coverage or connect off topic ideas to NGs case. It feels somewhat hollow. I sincerely hope there's progress toward a solution simmering somewhere.
 
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Another theory: Perp is looking to rob the house. Nancy wakes up and is attacked and the perp flees. Maybe she gets hit in the head, and is not thinking clearly. She wanders outside and into the desert where she ends up expiring.

I really wonder if they have more footage that they aren’t releasing.

I don't think that is plausible because she couldn't walk 50 yards by herself. I am thinking maybe her cane was left at her home - which might be why Nanos, in part, believes she was taken against her will.

I think they would have found her that Sunday when border patrol canines, infrared, heat sensors, etc. were utilized.

About more video footage - it's a possibility. Especially if those two camera's on the Casita were battery operated and the solar panels kept them charged.
 
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It looks like ring used to offer a Stick-Up Camera Elite which was PoE. This camera is maybe now marketed as Ring's Pro. However, they indicate the Pro is POE+ which is foreign to me.
Thanks for the correction - it look likes the stickup cam does operate over wifi. My bad.
 
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If I had to come up with an explanation on this point (I don't remotely think this is what actually happened) it could be that if they were a hired goon, maybe they were told to get the gems but if there aren't any in the house, take the owner so they could find out where the gems are but they got the wrong house and didn't know what the owner of the 'gem house' looked like

Very far-fetched and again, I don't believe it, just spit balling
I love to look at various theories and think about them. This theory would have perhaps had a higher probability earlier on.

But now some pieces don't fit? In your theory we have robbers who keep making major mistakes: reason for the robbery don't exist in the home (no gems); they do not have the correct address for the target house; they do not know what the owner of the target home looks like; they take the wrong woman; they make the foolish mistake of abducting a woman for no reason. They turn a simple robbery into a a capital crime which could result in the death penalty.

Yet this same team is so brilliant that they have managed to elude LE and 400 FBI agents for over a month. So the pieces don't fit in this theory?

All this said, at this point nothing would surprise me because much of this crime does not make sense.
 
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Does Walmart carry body bags?

I swear Walmart needs a dedicated aisle and a dedicated camera, live fed to LE.
I had to search. And yes, four. They are not easy to find. They range in price from $14.95 to $520.45. Free shipping on all four. I have Walmart+ so perhaps that's why the free shipping shows up.

ETA: You can't just walk in the store and buy them. Thank God, I guess.

ETA2: I guess law enforcement could/should probably monitor sales of those?
 
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Another theory: Perp is looking to rob the house. Nancy wakes up and is attacked and the perp flees. Maybe she gets hit in the head, and is not thinking clearly. She wanders outside and into the desert where she ends up expiring.

I really wonder if they have more footage that they aren’t releasing.
I think it low probability that an elderly woman in poor health, with mobility issues and a traumatic brain injury could walk far enough from her home to evade detection? Unless she fell into a nearby well, cavern, creek, lake, etc.
 
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DBM
 
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I had to search. And yes, four. They are not easy to find. They range in price from $14.95 to $520.45. Free shipping on all four. I have Walmart+ so perhaps that's why the free shipping shows up.

ETA: You can't just walk in the store and buy them. Thank God, I guess.


Yikes!

Do-It-Yourself body bags is a frightful idea, for many reasons.

IMO
 
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she’s likely in the desert 2+ miles away from her house.

IMHOO
 
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Re: botched crime originally intended as a random burglary/robbery.

There are far more 'robbery convenient' homes (and far nicer and more expensive homes) in that neighborhood for a burglar to break into. And as a former profiler outlined on one of the Youtube channels the other day -

Virtually no failed and/or interrupted burglar is going to take an inadvertently killed victim from the scene because the body itself is the most important piece of evidence, and placing it in a vehicle and driving off with it ties the victim directly to the suspect. Whereas leaving the body in the home, even with one's DNA all over the place, is still less risky than putting a dead or alive victim in a vehicle and riding around with them in the middle of the night.

That wasn't the suspect's intention. That wasn't the suspect's motive. She was targeted because she was taken.

And likely for the reason that Harvey Levin's letters outlined.

JMO.
 
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Another theory: Perp is looking to rob the house. Nancy wakes up and is attacked and the perp flees. Maybe she gets hit in the head, and is not thinking clearly. She wanders outside and into the desert where she ends up expiring.

I really wonder if they have more footage that they aren’t releasing.
This could happen very easily where I live in Arizona. It's a large community, but a person could wander about 1/2 mile from our house and not be found for quite some time.

I just did a map search of NG's house and I don't see any areas that would be as easy to get lost in, but I guess anything is possible. Even if they realized she was starting to fade and dropped her off by the side of the road somewhere.
 
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she’s likely in the desert 2+ miles away from her house.

IMHOO
I honestly think more desert searches are critical. I know it's like finding a needle in a haystack, and they don't have much direction, but I truly think he might've dumped her somewhere in somewhat close proximity. :confused:

I know they've done some, but at this point, I think more could be a good idea.
 
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That crossed my mind and that is why my hinky meter spiked.
Would LE be able to tell if someone manually deleted them? I would think so but I am not positive.

I would think so too, but I'm not sure. If LE determined those specific clips were deleted, that would be a breakthrough discovery!
 
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