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If it was an unknown case without much coverage: then maybe I'd drive through out of curiosity, but a case this high profile: no way. If I was involved I'd stay as far away as possible after the deed.
Their twisted criminal minds can’t help it. They want to be close to the aftermath, it nourishes the memory of the crime and excites them. Insert the expletive of your choice.

Amateur opinion and speculation
 
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I know i keep thinking about the neighbor who said her roof looked so white that it must have recently been done
Yes you know the shady roofers that go around neighborhoods and offer to inspect your roof for free and then tell you you need a new one. It might not directly be the roofer but someone who knew him or helped him on the job one day.
 
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…That prompted speculation about the so-called Wi-Fi jammers, which are illegal in the United States under Federal Communications Commission guidelines.

They're not particularly high-tech. And they can be obtained online — which is potentially something investigators could track.

But the fact that the FBI and Google were able to recover video from Guthrie's Nest doorbell camera, when the device was physically missing, and she did not have a cloud subscription, indicates a Wi-Fi jammer may not have been deployed at her front door.

"If they were using Wi-Fi jammers, then I would expect that we would not be able to see any video from the front-door cameras," said Morgan Wright, the CEO and founder of the National Center for Open and Unsolved Cases. "I took a look at some of the videos with the other gangs that use Wi-Fi jammers, and had one been up and running and persistent, you wouldn’t have gotten the clear pictures that we did from the front."

are the jammers battery powered? rechargeable?
 
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I know i keep thinking about the neighbor who said her roof looked so white that it must have recently been done
This made me wonder too. I am hoping that LE looked into this. If Nancy's roof was "done" then who worked on it? If this happened, then who was on site? This is basic LE stuff, but with such a high profile and stressful case, maybe this gets pushed to the back burner with all the glamorous stuff, such as DNA. It's my opinion that LE should be checking all neighbors for connections to roofing companies, often LLCs and take it from there.
 
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I’ve always wondered if that was part of the 40 minutes inside — they had her change clothes. I don’t think we’ve had any information on what NG might have been wearing or what was in her hamper, etc. Only my wondering. OMO.
a weird thing to spend time on IMO but this is a weird case
 
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I think it's safe to say that at this point, LE has waaaay more information on this case than they are disseminating to the media/public and that they are much further along in the investigation than they are letting on(that's a good thing).
 
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This case is getting more bizarre by the minute. Could the suspect have also scoped out the neighbors house to know that camera would need to be disconnected or moved? I wonder if the owners went outside with their pup? Would they be able to see Nancy’s lights on inside? Hear anything?
he could have walked by there or had his car there... dogs have super sensitive hearing until they are old
 
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I wouldn't be surprised if SG & her siblings had some additional cameras installed, especially as they ease back into their lives. The house is a place of public interest now, but it's also their childhood home and I'm sure they don't want any funny business. Could also be handy for remote monitoring in general.

JMO

Not to mention suspects often return to the scene of the crime at some point down the line. I'd be installing cameras everywhere and hawking them obsessively until she was found. Would link em' right to the FBI in Phoenix.

Sprinker cameras, mailbox cameras, mulch cameras, pine needle cameras, fence picket cameras, lawn chair cameras, birdfeeder cameras, dog bowl cameras, you name it.

I'm only about 10% kidding.

JMO.
 
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We keep hearing about Nancy having mobility issues but do we really know the extent of it? She had a car, right? If she drove somewhere she obviously could get around pretty well (in and out of the vehicle).
 
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The FBI were back out in Nancy's neighborhood yesterday and a street they were seen going down was E Camino Miraval.

There was a Larceny reported Sunday January 25th at 6:07 a.m.
in the 2500 block of E Camino Miraval - just 4 minutes away from Nancy's.

That was exactly one week to the day that Nancy went missing.
was the home empty at the time?
 
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Not to mention suspects often return to the scene of the crime at some point down the line. I'd be installing cameras everywhere and hawking them obsessively until she was found. Would link em' right to the FBI in Phoenix.

Sprinker cameras, mailbox cameras, mulch cameras, pine needle cameras, fence picket cameras, lawn chair cameras, birdfeeder cameras, dog bowl cameras, you name it.

I'm only about 10% kidding.

JMO.
Seriously, not blaming anyone, but if I were in Tucson, I'd be installing a lot more cameras, everywhere. I'd be terrified after a crime like this going unsolved, despite the immense resources poured into solving it. It's very unfair and devastating that he's managed to get away with this partially because of lacking camera footage. 😞

No one's fault and no one could've anticipated this, but... and I agree, there's a non-zero chance that he'll come back at some point to gloat over what he's done.
 
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I think it's safe to say that at this point, LE has waaaay more information on this case than they are disseminating to the media/public and that they are much further along in the investigation than they are letting on(that's a good thing).
Not trying to be rude, but why is it safe to say they have waaaay more information?
They almost certainly have some more information than the general public, but I’m bearish on them having a POI, suspects, etc. I hope I’m wrong. JMO.

Investigators following up on possible internet outages, 34 days later (when it had been discussed in Court TV in the first week or so of the investigation) makes it seem like they’re running out of leads. Again, I hope I’m wrong. Genuinely.
 
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I have no idea when the satellite image is from, but if you look up NG's address on Google Maps and change the view from street view to aerial view, someone is very visibly on the roof. Could be an old image.

Sorry, no direct link that I can share due to privacy reasons.

JMO.
 
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This is from yesterday when the FBI were questioning neighbors. This is where the antagonist lives. She would not allow them into her home, so they had to go around to talk to her over a wall in her backyard, I believe. This home is listed as vacant and/ or a short term rental, is lists the owners name, but I won’t include that (male), a name I’m not familiar with.
Why do you think these women would not let the FBI in? To me that would cause immediate suspicion.
 
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1. Because of the double masks, one of them a mesh mask with fake teeth we think, perhaps it is difficult to take the light in and out of his mouth. Someone correct me on this point if need be.

2. He would be extremely foolish to take a DNA rich mouth light (because it is covered in saliva) in and out of his mouth with his gloves. The light could fall on the floor and he might also touch things in the home with his gloves.

3. Perhaps he needs the light to view the interior of the home. It might be foolish to turn the lights on in the middle of the night and alert the neighbors.

4. Yes I also wondered about how safe it is to walk around with that thing in his mouth.

5. Someone suggested that the light was not actually in his mouth but near the fake set of mask teeth to look like it was in his mouth.
Didn’t they say someone turned on the lights inside the house? Someone was ok with lights.
 
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Why do you think these women would not let the FBI in? To me that would cause immediate suspicion.
BE said there were some neighbors, just a few that were over it. They called the media "maggots" and won't let any of them pet their dogs. They sound like unhappy people. All on BEs show last night. It's linked up thread.
 
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We keep hearing about Nancy having mobility issues but do we really know the extent of it? She had a car, right? If she drove somewhere she obviously could get around pretty well (in and out of the vehicle).
remember this: she would drag herself out to the mailbox:




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Nancy Guthrie's Friends Refuse to Give Up Hope She's Alive​

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The New York Times
https://www.nytimes.com › nancy-guthrie-profile




Feb 22, 2026 — ... her disappearance, when she insisted on walking to the end of her gravel driveway to get the mail, even if a friend had to help. When they ...
 
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I think it's safe to say that at this point, LE has waaaay more information on this case than they are disseminating to the media/public and that they are much further along in the investigation than they are letting on(that's a good thing).
This!
 
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