Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

[LRinCA]

No. They might never get them back, either

We don't know if anything has been retrieved in conjunction with the crime

Or contacts of other persons of interest

In this day and age it's hard to imagine being without a phone. I guess they would have to go out and buy another one, even if it was one of those burner types.

And speaking of phones, I may have asked about these pages and pages ago, but do we know if NG had a landline? My mom had a cell phone but always relied on her landline as did my mother-in-law. We gave up using a landline about three years ago. I'm just wondering if she was one of those who still primarily used a landline.

 

[ttjo]

It’s just about the neighbors ring camera videos showing vehicles passing by around the time her pace maker stopped.

 

[shonyakay]

https://twitter.com/x/status/2030082636048388255

This is interesting. The left side of the house is where the neighbor said she believes Nancy's bedroom was located. I have read that the first place a burglar usually goes when they burglarize a home is the master bedroom. I guess because most valuables are kept there?

The FBI agents spent time looking at the ground by the stepping stones that trail off to the left. I wonder why?

Edited: To add a picture and a link.

 

[Arkay]

This is interesting. The left side of the house is where the neighbor said she believes Nancy's bedroom was located. I have read that the first place a burglar usually goes when they burglarize a home is the master bedroom. I guess because most valuables are kept there?

This is typically true, but in this particular case, since I believe NG was targeted, I would assume that at 2 in the morning the bedroom was the likely place to find Nancy.

And we know that her valuables were not taken according to LE, so I do presume that a beeline to the bedroom made the most sense if someone was looking to grab her up, as happened, tragically.

JMO

 

[shonyakay]

This is typically true, but in this particular case, since I believe NG was targeted, I would assume that at 2 in the morning the bedroom was the likely place to find Nancy.

And we know that her valuables were not taken according to LE, so I do presume that a beeline to the bedroom made the most sense if someone was looking to grab her up, as happened, tragically.

JMO

Hey, my friend. I thought that as well but when a reporter asked LE about whether valuables, or bank/atm cards were taken they said they weren't going to be getting into that.

Also FBI Janke stated that they were looking at lots of video - including banks.

I will find that part of the presser and post it.

 

[ilgirl]

Can you imagine having that kind of income and not paying it for a 50/50 shot? The lifelong guilt for not taking the demand seriously?

I'd do it in a heartbeat.

JMO.

Yes, that would also be emotionally very stressful. I can’t imagine what they’re going through.

 

[Scooby-Doo]

This is typically true, but in this particular case, since I believe NG was targeted, I would assume that at 2 in the morning the bedroom was the likely place to find Nancy.

And we know that her valuables were not taken according to LE, so I do presume that a beeline to the bedroom made the most sense if someone was looking to grab her up, as happened, tragically.

JMO

Agree

I think this was a premeditated attack on Nancy

carefully carried out

With more involvement from someone at the top

Giving instructions

 

[SlimPickens]

To judge them based on the limited information we have is insensitive at best and victim shaming and just plain cruel at worst. moo

I'm not judging anyone except the professionals in charge who should've given them better advice. You are free to believe that the ransom demand wasn't authentic. I have no issues with someone believing that. But if you do believe that you believe it despite the FBI treating it as authentic and having the family address it directly and via worldwide media.

Indeed, what would be just plain cruel at worst is if the FBI had a grieving, desperate family publicly beg a kidnapper based on what was in those letters while they secretly questioned their authenticity.

That wouldn't happen. And that's why the ransom demands were real and directly related.

JMO.

 

[shonyakay]

https://twitter.com/x/status/2030082636048388255

Here is Nancy's neighbor describing Nancy's front door and where her bedroom was located. On the left side of the home - Opposite the garage.

https://www.cnn.com/2026/02/13/us/video/ebof-guthrie-neighbor-laura-gargano-feb-13

 

[iamshadow21]

I'm not judging anyone except the professionals in charge who should've given them better advice. You are free to believe that the ransom demand wasn't authentic. I have no issues with someone believing that. But if you do believe that you believe it despite the FBI treating it as authentic and having the family address it directly and via worldwide media.

Indeed, what would be 'just plain cruel at worst' is if the FBI had a grieving, desperate family publicly beg a kidnapper based on what was in those letters, and the FBI secretly questioning their authenticity.

That wouldn't happen. And that's why the ransom demands were real and directly related.

JMO.

But the fact is, without proof of life, or without identifying the kidnappers and the ransom demand makers, they have no idea if they are one and the same. If the content in the notes were a good enough guess or vague enough to make it unclear one way or the other, the family may have been told that they cannot be sure they're not linked, and that it may be safest to play it as if they're genuine.

That's not the same as being certain that they're real.

MOO

 

[SlimPickens]

But the fact is, without proof of life, or without identifying the kidnappers and the ransom demand makers, they have no idea if they are one and the same. If the content in the notes were a good enough guess or vague enough to make it unclear one way or the other, the family may have been told that they cannot be sure they're not linked, and that it may be safest to play it as if they're genuine.

That's not the same as being certain that they're real.

MOO

Again, the FBI is not going to have a grieving, desperate family convene and produce a worldwide broadcast, and read a script that FBI hostage negotiators composed specifically to address the emailer of the ransom demand, if they weren't certain that it was the same person or persons who had Nancy.

And we don't know that proof of life wasn't disclosed and/or ascertained. That is an assumption.

JMO.

 

[Napoli]

Again, the FBI is not going to have a grieving, desperate family convene and produce a worldwide broadcast, and read a script that FBI hostage negotiators composed specifically to address the emailer of the ransom demand, if they weren't certain that it was the same person or persons who had Nancy.

And we don't know that proof of life wasn't disclosed and/or ascertained. That is an assumption.

JMO.

Absolutely. We are dealing with a brooding, deep, stalker who has idealized SG. He may even share her religious fervor and thinks God means for them to be together. OR, her belief in God mirrors HIS belief in their ultimate destiny.

This is not an openly crazed, raging person in his daily life. He idealizes Every Instagram message from SG was direct and in response to the ransom notes tenor. I think some of LE may have thought the notes were NOT real. Some did. So, SG answered, begged and pleaded and crawled. Then, the other faction of LE said the notes MAY not be real. Ransom was promised but not paid. Huge mistake. LE lets family make the decision to pay or not. My stalker thinks Sg was playing with his heart. JMO

 

[pitbull]

I'm not judging anyone except the professionals in charge who should've given them better advice. You are free to believe that the ransom demand wasn't authentic. I have no issues with someone believing that. But if you do believe that you believe it despite the FBI treating it as authentic and having the family address it directly and via worldwide media.

Indeed, what would be just plain cruel at worst is if the FBI had a grieving, desperate family publicly beg a kidnapper based on what was in those letters while they secretly questioned their authenticity.

That wouldn't happen. And that's why the ransom demands were real and directly related.

JMO.

IMO, the contents of the ransom notes were real, but were NOT written by the kidnapper(s). It was written by an individual that was either at the initial response to the crime scene or someone with intimate knowledge from that scene trying to scam a buck.

Real kidnappers would find a way to provide proof of life. That's how you get paid!!

Opportunistic scum have NO WAY to show proof of life, so they go radio silent because their bluff has been called...JMO

 

[Chucky42]

remember this: she would drag herself out to the mailbox:




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Feb 22, 2026 — ... her disappearance, when she insisted on walking to the end of her gravel driveway to get the mail, even if a friend had to help. When they ...

Why was she still licensed to drive a car if she couldn’t “drag “ herself to the mailbox? Surely she would have to pass tests for a driving licence which would include mobility, sight, health issues? Why was she living alone with these mobility issues? How did she navigate every day activities within her large home? JMO

 

[Chucky42]

If it's a rental and If LE wasnt allowed inside. It would would make me ask how long they lived there and who lived full or part-time in the house. Of COURSE LE's antennae are up. However, the neighbors could just not want to be involved. That's their right. They don't want to be part of an eventual trial. Publicity, testifying, whatever. Perfect right to say NO to all of this. They have seen how the 2 other POI were vilified. Neighbors dont want to play with LE. Not nice but perfectly within their rights. Of course they could be hiding something too. Up to LE to make some choices. JMO

Not be involved? I would bend over backwards to help find NG…

 

[Napoli]

IMO, the contents of the ransom notes were real, but were NOT written by the kidnapper(s). It was written by an individual that was either at the initial response to the crime scene or someone with intimate knowledge from that scene trying to scam a buck.

Real kidnappers would find a way to provide proof of life. That's how you get paid!!

Opportunistic scum have NO WAY to show proof of life, so they go radio silent because their bluff has been called...JMO

Proof of life is a 1930's black and white movie, James Cagney and the Dead End Kids, outdated concept. Might be what some LE think is right but the stats show kidnapping for ransom IN GENERAL is rather rare and not a recent and common phenomenon. Therefore, what is old in thinking or style can be new again. JMO


The clues as offered by LE are sparse. A video, some heavily redacted ransom notes sent to TMZ and local news outlets and that's about it. Or is it? IMO, The clues are all in SG's Instagram videos. Listen to them.

The WIFI and electricity stuff goes nowhere, imo. He was goal oriented. He got in and got out with NG. When he is apprehended, the charge will be murder and kidnapping. NOT possession of a WIFI jammer.

My guess is that LE can never be sure the ransom letters were linked but life is a gamble and SG's agony sure makes me think she thought they were spot on and coached to respond appropriately. JMO

 

[maskedwoman]

Not trying to be rude, but why is it safe to say they have waaaay more information?
They almost certainly have some more information than the general public, but I’m bearish on them having a POI, suspects, etc. I hope I’m wrong. JMO.

Investigators following up on possible internet outages, 34 days later (when it had been discussed in Court TV in the first week or so of the investigation) makes it seem like they’re running out of leads. Again, I hope I’m wrong. Genuinely.

It seems to me like the early investigation was focused almost exclusively on the kidnapping angle, finding and rescuing her. That's why they rolled SWAT those two times. Now that it's much less likely that rescuing a live NG is possible, they are going back to more standard investigative work. Not saying that approach was right or wrong, but I certainly hope anything they find now still bears the same fruit as it might have 3+ weeks ago. MOO

 

[maskedwoman]

Can you imagine having that kind of income and not paying it for a 50/50 shot? The lifelong guilt for not taking the demand seriously?

I'd do it in a heartbeat.

JMO.

It is not fair to judge. How many times is she supposed to pay somebody just because they sent you a letter and no proof of life? As difficult as it is, if LE had good reasons to believe they were not real, it was wise not to pay them. Pay a scammer and end up with an endless supply of scammers sending you ransom notes. On the other hand, if they advised me against paying and the notes turned out to be real, I would be clawing some people's eyes out. But that's me.

 

[steff13]

At one point, COSCO carried coffins.

Costco still carries caskets. I don't think it's all that shocking. These are items that people need and they sell them at better prices than you can get from a funeral home where you would still have to purchase one.

Not to be pedantic, but a coffin is what Dracula sleeps in. Most people in the US are buried in caskets.

 

[maskedwoman]

I'm not judging anyone except the professionals in charge who should've given them better advice. You are free to believe that the ransom demand wasn't authentic. I have no issues with someone believing that. But if you do believe that you believe it despite the FBI treating it as authentic and having the family address it directly and via worldwide media.

Indeed, what would be just plain cruel at worst is if the FBI had a grieving, desperate family publicly beg a kidnapper based on what was in those letters while they secretly questioned their authenticity.

That wouldn't happen. And that's why the ransom demands were real and directly related.

JMO.

OR, they might have been honest with the family about what scenario they believed was playing out, and advised them not to pay YET but to make the videos and try to get proof of life. If she was really kidnapped, the kidnappers should have continued trying to get paid.

Or she was really kidnapped, the letters were real and NG died. If so, there was no reason to keep communicating and increase the chance of getting caught because of it. It doesn't have to be all one or the other. MOO