Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

[seekingjustice**]

If the person who did this crime lived nearby, they might've turned off their own CCTV camera right before leaving the house so they wouldn’t show up on video, and there'd be no proof of them leaving. They could’ve done this just in case law enforcement asked neighbors for footage around the time of the crime. Then when law enforcement come to check the footage, they'd need a reason for the missing time. They could say the camera had a weird glitch right at that moment. If this is a possibility it would be worth looking back at the person’s camera history for the last 5 or 6 weeks to see if there were any other odd glitches, maybe when they were scoping out the place.

 

[buffalogal]

BE has a new short where he suggests there was a wifi jammer and neighbors were effected too.

Edit: could account for the lack of him or a vehicle being on camera

Couldn't that also account for the thing we can see poking out of his pocket that people are or were speculating is a walkie talkie antenna? StMichael posted this picture of what he calls a Temu jammer that is just a rectangle box with an antenna.

 

[submarine7]

Couldn't that also account for the thing we can see poking out of his pocket that people are or were speculating is a walkie talkie antenna? StMichael posted this picture of what he calls a Temu jammer that is just a rectangle box with an antenna. View attachment 650763

Of course, just speculation. It could be neither.

 

[submarine7]

Hearing about the neighbor's dog breaking habit and insisting to go outside and then looking toward Nancy's, really shows how smart they are. It also got me thinking about whether or not the dog would "alert" like it did only if it was a stranger and not a smell it's familiar with? Something agitated the dog. Did it hear something, smell something?

I'm referencing something discussed on BEs show tonight.

 

[BigCityAccountant]

Why do you think these women would not let the FBI in? To me that would cause immediate suspicion.

Agreed, but maybe she had a dog? If she thought the dog would go after someone in uniform then it's possible she didn't want them to get bitten. I know postal workers in uniforms have the same problem and often carry dog treats so they don't get bit.

 

[ilgirl]

Agreed, but maybe she had a dog? If she thought the dog would go after someone in uniform then it's possible she didn't want them to get bitten. I know postal workers in uniforms have the same problem and often carry dog treats so they don't get bit.

I see your point, and it's possible. But in my case I'd put my dog in her carrier and let the FBI in. I wonder why she doesn't want them in there, but maybe she doesn't think she needs to since they don't have a warrant. JMO.

 

[ilgirl]

I think he moved on, but is not dead! Just back to regular life, acting normal!
As far as $1mil, none of his family or associates have noticed a change, so no one to turn in!
JMO

That's possible and pretty scary to think someone can act normal after all of that. Plus...what exactly is "normal" for someone like that? Eek. I'm hoping he will get too comfortable and slip up and get caught.
JMO.

 

[Telltale]

TBF the neighbours have probably been dealing with the intrusion/questioning/exposure by police, agents, reporters, 'reporters,' cameras, csi, gawkers, influencers etc etc. All of them wanting to tramp around or just trespassing on their property. I imagine it's been happening multiple times a day for weeks now.

Even pretty reasonable/cooperative neighbours may just be at the end of their rope at this point. You can bet it's far from the first time the law enforcement has come knocking with some new imposition.

 

[ab01]

Not trying to be rude, but why is it safe to say they have waaaay more information?
They almost certainly have some more information than the general public, but I’m bearish on them having a POI, suspects, etc. I hope I’m wrong. JMO.

Investigators following up on possible internet outages, 34 days later (when it had been discussed in Court TV in the first week or so of the investigation) makes it seem like they’re running out of leads. Again, I hope I’m wrong. Genuinely.

I wouldn't say they are necessarily running out of leads, but they are definitely circling back.

That's not unusual and in many instances that's how cases end up being solved.

 

[Napoli]

Why do you think these women would not let the FBI in? To me that would cause immediate suspicion.

If it's a rental and If LE wasnt allowed inside. It would would make me ask how long they lived there and who lived full or part-time in the house. Of COURSE LE's antennae are up. However, the neighbors could just not want to be involved. That's their right. They don't want to be part of an eventual trial. Publicity, testifying, whatever. Perfect right to say NO to all of this. They have seen how the 2 other POI were vilified. Neighbors dont want to play with LE. Not nice but perfectly within their rights. Of course they could be hiding something too. Up to LE to make some choices. JMO

 

[ilgirl]

This is the way I've been leaning with the ransom notes, that it was essentially just an extortion attempt from someone with a little bit of inside knowledge

Obviously without having the actual contents of the notes we have no idea just how detailed the information given was but it just never exactly felt like LE were treating them as 100% real

Can you imagine actually paying this person and it turned out to be fake? I'm guessing that the money lost wouldn't even compare to the emotional impact of that situation.
JMO.

 

[ab01]

If it's a rental and If LE wasnt allowed inside. It would would make me ask how long they lived there and who lived full or part-time in the house. Of COURSE LE's antennae are up. However, the neighbors could just not want to be involved. That's their right. They don't want to be part of an eventual trial. Publicity, testifying, whatever. Perfect right to say NO to all of this. They have seen how the 2 other POI were vilified. Neighbors dont want to play with LE. Not nice but perfectly within their rights. Of course they culd be hiding something too. Up to LE to make some choices. JMO

It would cause suspicion for me too. I understand not wanting deal with the press, but to not let investigators in is definitely suspicious especially when we are talking about a missing vulnerable person.

I guess I would just say if it was me I'd do everything in my power to help, but unfortunately not everyone thinks that way and they are well within their rights.

I will say the source is John Depetro and he has faced several controversies and has been known to be provocative so take it with a huge grain of salt IMO

 

[ab01]

Ive been also thinking about the dogs brought in early on and lack of information about a possible vehicle of interest.

Dogs would have been able to pinpoint a loss of scent ie entering a vehicle etc.

I know the area isn't conducive to having neighbor security cameras catch a vehicle on camera due to the seclusion of homes and setback from roads etc.

But it almost seems Investigators keep circling back bc they have no evidence that NG was removed via vehicle etc

I think its indicative to the evidence they have, we like to think they know so much more than the general public and I'm sure they do know some things.

But I think their biggest part of the puzzle is that they can't prove that she actually left the neighborhood other than they haven't yet been able to recover her nearby.

If that's the case they are either narrowing in on a suspect bc the obvious was overlooked initially, Or it's going to take a huge break bc the evidence just isn't there and its going to take someone talking etc to lead them down the correct path.

Unfortunately in cases we have seen where someone comes forward, its bc the perp has confessed something to a confidant or they noticed changes or inconsistencies in their behavior etc. But many times it takes a life changing event. A divorce, broken friendship, breakup etc. Something where a person feels no longer tied to the individual that committed the crime. moo

And many times in situations like that it takes years for it to come to light

 

[flowershop]

In the Brian Entin interview (at around 40 min 56 s) of the digital forensics experts, BE says that the cell phones belonging to the people who were detained last month are still in the FBI's possession. The digital forensics experts say what the FBI would be looking for on the phones. Anyone else surprised that the phones were not returned yet?

 

[SlimPickens]

Obviously without having the actual contents of the notes we have no idea just how detailed the information given was but it just never exactly felt like LE were treating them as 100% real

LE not treating them as 100% real doesn't mean they weren't 100% real. My inclination is that they were 100% real and that Pima County Sheriff's Office was too laser focused on the SIL for 10 days until the images of the masked man came out. Only then it was far too late to do anything about it. The FBI, however, treated them as authentic almost instantly when they came on board (as the videos of family pleading with the kidnapper can attest).

Nancy very well could've paid the ultimate price because of the PCSO's limited experience and general naïveté regarding these types of high profile and overly complex crimes. Certainly didn't help that the Sheriff appears to have been less than fully cooperative with, and even resistant towards, the FBI coming in and doing their thing.

JMO.

 

[caplaw]

Remember Derrick Callella - the guy arrested in Cali for texting and calling AG/TC about whether they’d gotten the bitcoin. Has he been cleared? I went down a dark rabbit hole on his public Instagram and found photos he posted wearing a ski mask that looks eerily similar. Something is odd here. See here: Secret Mutilator on Instagram: "Bringing the boat and performing a handful of shows in April w/ @distress_mistress // 4/16 Empty Bottle-Chicago 4/20 Holland Project-Reno 4/23 Bar Sinister-LA 4/25 Cold Brew-Laredo TX 4/27 Chess Club-Austin TX"

There’s an April 5, 2023 post that is also very concerning, too gross to post here. Am I reading too much into this?

Mods: I hope I didn’t break any rules posting. He’s been formally charged federally.

 

[Scooby-Doo]

In the Brian Entin interview (at around 40 min 56 s) of the digital forensics experts, BE says that the cell phones belonging to the people who were detained last month are still in the FBI's possession. The digital forensics experts say what the FBI would be looking for on the phones. Anyone else surprised that the phones were not returned yet?

No. They might never get them back, either

We don't know if anything has been retrieved in conjunction with the crime

Or contacts of other persons of interest

 

[Arkay]

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I know I posted about this, several thousand posts ago, when the $6,000,000 ransom note was first sent to TMZ.

I would give all I have if this were my mother, but I would HAVE TO HAVE proof of life.

I would not care about the money as long as I had enough so my children didn’t starve.

But I would not throw it into the air without proof they had my mom, that she was alive, and that there was a viable plan to assure she’d be returned to me.

NOT because I didn’t want to pay, but because I would want my mother back, and without proof of life and a sure way to return her to me, I don’t believe I’d really get her back.

Just my opinion.

 

[hopeprayer]

It would cause suspicion for me too. I understand not wanting deal with the press, but to not let investigators in is definitely suspicious especially when we are talking about a missing vulnerable person.

I guess I would just say if it was me I'd do everything in my power to help, but unfortunately not everyone thinks that way and they are well within their rights.

SBM

In addition to your excellent points: if my neighbor's house was a violent crime scene I'd want to help LE solve the crime ASAP because I'd feel vulnerable myself!

JMO

 

[LRinCA]

Do we know with absolute certainty that ransom wasn't paid? There have been so many phases to this - first the 6 million, or maybe it was 1 million and then another 5? Then there was the 1 bitcoin person. And then the 1 million dollar reward (most recently).

jmo/moo and all that