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I really don’t believe we have all the info to jump the gun and say he blocked evidence. In my opinion, it could have already been a part of their process the day the got the glove from inside the house to send it out, and then the FBI entered into it, and now because of that glove being analyzed out of state, the access is limited. If they sent it to DNA labs international here in FL, then FBI uses them too. I am thinking it is more a chain of custody situation.
I agree - it does seem like there is frustration and problems with the investigation or at least that is the perception with many people (look at this thread) and people are starting to try to fingerpoint imo. That also doesn't say good things as to where the investigation is either :(
 
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I’d like to know more about this before jumping to conclusions. According to the Reuters article, the county already spent a bunch of money doing DNA tests through this lab. This implies the lab already has comparative samples and reference samples, and it’s unclear if FBI has any of this. It may simply be far more expedient to use the contract lab at this point. Lot of pot-stirring going on lately.

JMO

And maybe the sheriff sent the recovered evidence from inside NG's home to the FL lab immediately before the FBI were involved. JMO
 
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Here’s the Reuters report. Prepare to be enraged:

uk.news.yahoo.com

Exclusive-FBI blocked from key access to evidence in Nancy Guthrie abduction case, source says

By Jana Winter WASHINGTON, Feb 12 (Reuters) - An Arizona sheriff is blocking FBI access to key evidence in the investigation into the abduction of U.S. television journalist Savannah Guthrie's mother,
uk.news.yahoo.com
uk.news.yahoo.com

Unbelievable. There are no words. Intentionally delaying investigation and not using FBI resources. Sheriff's job should be on the line. JMO
I'm thinking it will not be long before the sheriff is contacted by President Donald Trump.
 
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Lastly, NG may no longer be alive. Although family doesn't want to acknowledge this, they know it's reality.
Maybe NG has, unknown to family, been paying/giving $$$ to someone, as a loan. Maybe she wanted payment, and the person decided to remove her.
 
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“Every tip is reviewed for credibility, relevance, and information that can be acted upon by law enforcement,” the FBI Phoenix office said. “Threat Intake Examiners at the National Threat Operations Center (NTOC) and FBI personnel are supporting a 24-hour command post in which dozens of agents and investigators are assigned leads and tips to action each shift.”

Charles Latibeaudiere, co-executive producer at TMZ, joins NewsNation to discuss the note sent to its tipline Thursday from the same individual who said they were willing to name Nancy Guthrie's kidnapper(s) in exchange for a bitcoin.

For the second time in as many days, TMZ received an email Thursday morning from a person claiming to know the identity of those who kidnapped Guthrie. The outlet received an email on Wednesday demanding the payment of 1 bitcoin in exchange for the name of the person responsible. As of this writing, no deposit has been made into the account provided.

Per TMZ, the person who sent the second note complained about "not being taken seriously." The outlet refrained from fully releasing all of the information contained in the note, in accordance with a request from law enforcement. However, it was noted that the sender made "ominous statements" and that payment was being sought so that they could "lay low" after identifying Guthrie's abductor out of fear of retaliation. The sender also reportedly stated that this would be their last attempt to help Guthrie's family and the police.

The value of 1 bitcoin as of late Thursday afternoon was just over $66,000 (per CoinDesk).
Wow another one. They should take this seriously. It is funny to me that out of all the random emails, this one feels the most important. What do they have to lose at this point?
 
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If she's missing there will certainly be a financial audit by her POA. Her house is in a revokable trust in her name. Assuming she has her three children on the trust there any fraud or illegal activity are going to come to

Unless we are at the finger-pointing stage of the investigation b/c both LE groups are frustrated
I think they have arrived at such a place, sadly.
 
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If she's missing there will certainly be a financial audit by her POA. Her house is in a revokable trust in her name. Assuming she has her three children on the trust there any fraud or illegal activity are going to come to light.
Not necessarily if one of the children is her POA...
 
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So do these new articles confirm a glove was found inside NG's house by local LE as they searched the house?
 
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Isn't the pacemaker attached to the heart? That would mean someone in her family surgically removed it. That's cold.
Yes!!!!
 
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You think that Occam's Razor = SIL/AG with no criminal record that has ever been reported (and it would have been at this point) suddenly killed an EIGHTY FOUR year old woman (her MOTHER) for the inheritance, hid the body well enough that it will take years to declare her dead to get said money, turned over their house, their car to LE with nothing found to arrest them as of yet and dressed up as a masked man to perform on a camera feed that was destroyed and found 2 weeks later?? You don't think this sounds contrived? I agree in normal situations absent evidence or data the last person to be seen with the victim when they were alive needs a hard look as a top suspect (and especially immediate family). But when info comes out that is contradictory occam's razor doesn't always point to them anymore. There is other information that makes it much less likely to be them imo.
And yet we still have ZERO PROOF that NG ever made it home from AG and SIL house. Until that's conclusively proven they will remain under suspicion.
 
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Is there any chance that the private lab could process it quicker than the FBI lab? I'm curious.
I’d be surprised with the high noteriety of this case and the president even weighing in. I’d be shocked if that was the reason. jmo


But the bigger problem seems to be that there’s a lack of trust and cooperation/cordinaton on both sides.
 
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You have the neighborhood right? If you flick back through my posts, I believe it's somewhere between 1st Mountain Avenue and Sugar Hill neighborhoods.

Would also encourage people asking about location/distance/timing/sources to go back and read previous pages as we have touched on the Ring camera footage of the man with two backpacks already today :)
My apologies. Just home from work and trying to catch up
I’d like to know more about this before jumping to conclusions. According to the Reuters article, the county already spent a bunch of money doing DNA tests through this lab. This implies the lab already has comparative samples and reference samples, and it’s unclear if FBI has any of this. It may simply be far more expedient to use the contract lab at this point. Lot of pot-stirring going on lately.

JMO
DBM
 
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Maybe NG has, unknown to family, been paying/giving $$$ to someone, as a loan. Maybe she wanted payment, and the person decided to remove her.
I suggested similar couple days ago. Someone has continued to ask and borrow money and she finally got tired of it and said no...then argument ensued, even a slight push would topple someone with mobility issues. Maybe hit her head and they panicked and carted her out and it turned into a kidnapping, accidentally...JMO
 
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Possible kickbacks from the lab? Sheriff Nanos was investigated by the FBI back in 2016 for misuse of over $200,000 in seized funds.



FBI investigating Rico funds and then a suicide? Crazy!
 
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So the current description is a male suspect approximately 5'9" - 5"10" tall, with an average build.

But what kind of male suspect are they looking for?

Are they looking for a white male? A black male? A hispanic male? A middle eastern male? A oriental male?

What kind of a male suspect does the public needs to be on the lookout for?
Oriental as an ethnic description of a human being is widely considered antiquated, inappropriate and offensive, if not an explicitly racist term when used to describe people of Asian descent. Please edit if you can to as not offend.
 
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So do these new articles confirm a glove was found inside NG's house by local LE as they searched the house?
That seems to be the implication, and I really hope it’s true.

We have to take all reporting with a grain of salt though, as these are law enforcement sources and not direct from law enforcement.

Something could be lost in translation.
 
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I’d like to know more about this before jumping to conclusions. According to the Reuters article, the county already spent a bunch of money doing DNA tests through this lab. This implies the lab already has comparative samples and reference samples, and it’s unclear if FBI has any of this. It may simply be far more expedient to use the contract lab at this point. Lot of pot-stirring going on lately.

JMO
This is what I'm thinking. Also if glove found INSIDE the house, that means day 1. Was FBI even involved day 1 (I'm late to this case) if so they probably just sent it to the lab they commonly work with.

- now if it's the gloves supposedly found yesterday...that's more concerning.

Also for someone to leak this shows there's a lot of big egos with hurt feelings in that room. Never good for an investigation.
 
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