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IMO not that anyone has reportedDid NG have a connection to local kaw enforcement /sheriff?
IMO not that anyone has reportedDid NG have a connection to local kaw enforcement /sheriff?
I live in the Tucson area and have personal experience with Nanos and his staff. Between the PCSD deputies harassing people in poor areas, not responding to urgent calls, etc. I am not surprised that things are going this way. One day, my spouse and I were driving home and encountered an elderly man (75-80ish) and his dog being gruesomely attacked by two pitbulls. By the time we arrived, the man and his dog were on the ground, the man's clothing partially torn off and blood was everywhere. My husband jumped out of the car and tried to help while I called 911. Needless to say, Pima County Sheriffs office "declined" the call and said they would not come for a dog attack and then transferred me to the fire department - which also declined the call. I begged for anyone to come or to send an ambulance - but they refused. A second incident happened when a neighbor's home was being broken into and we called PCSD and they also refused to come unless someone was home at the neighbor's and injured. After those two incidents, I realized they were not there to help average citizens and had their own agenda.I have held off on commenting on this sheriff for a number of reasons, mostly being that this case is pretty unprecedented and I can’t imagine being in his position. However, after everything that has happened in this investigation, I have to wonder if he is either just unbelievably in over his head or if he’s purposefully messing this up. In a situation like this, I think any decent sheriff wanting to solve the case would take guidance from FBI (like in the idaho 4 case.) To not only ignore their input but to purposefully go against it is at best a little weird and at worst corruption. JMO.
IMO my vibe as wellI dont think it ever was a kidnapping, I think it was a staged kidnapping to hide a murder.
Lastly, NG may no longer be alive. Although family doesn't want to acknowledge this, they know it's reality.It could have a number of reasons IMO.
SG is also a lawyer and maybe she simply doesn't value the notes to be real.
The FBI could have advised against it with some sort of logical explanation.
The fam wants some proof before paying.
Maybe the ransom notes as we know them has been taken out of context and contain not much info to go on, nothing valuable for the fam. The notes never went public.
They said they will pay but i can imagine first wanting to have some sort of evidence they are communicating with the right person(s).
I really have no clue, it's all just IMO![]()
Is there any chance that the private lab could process it quicker than the FBI lab? I'm curious.Wait! Hold up, instead of allowing FBI to utilize Quantico. This local sheriff wants to send evidence to a private lab in Florida. I’m so dumbfounded by this Sheriff.
I hope Locals remember this when they hit polling locations
Might not be the same man but could be working together.I don't think the man in the TMZ video is the same as the man in Nancy's camera video because even though Nancy's camera video is in black and white, you can tell the backpack is a lighter color than the coat. And in TMZ's video, it's the opposite. The backpack is black and the coat is a lighter color.
I agree - it does seem like there is frustration and problems with the investigation or at least that is the perception with many people (look at this thread) and people are starting to try to fingerpoint imo. That also doesn't say good things as to where the investigation is eitherI really don’t believe we have all the info to jump the gun and say he blocked evidence. In my opinion, it could have already been a part of their process the day the got the glove from inside the house to send it out, and then the FBI entered into it, and now because of that glove being analyzed out of state, the access is limited. If they sent it to DNA labs international here in FL, then FBI uses them too. I am thinking it is more a chain of custody situation.
I’d like to know more about this before jumping to conclusions. According to the Reuters article, the county already spent a bunch of money doing DNA tests through this lab. This implies the lab already has comparative samples and reference samples, and it’s unclear if FBI has any of this. It may simply be far more expedient to use the contract lab at this point. Lot of pot-stirring going on lately.
JMO
I'm thinking it will not be long before the sheriff is contacted by President Donald Trump.Here’s the Reuters report. Prepare to be enraged:
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Exclusive-FBI blocked from key access to evidence in Nancy Guthrie abduction case, source says
By Jana Winter WASHINGTON, Feb 12 (Reuters) - An Arizona sheriff is blocking FBI access to key evidence in the investigation into the abduction of U.S. television journalist Savannah Guthrie's mother,
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Unbelievable. There are no words. Intentionally delaying investigation and not using FBI resources. Sheriff's job should be on the line. JMO
Maybe NG has, unknown to family, been paying/giving $$$ to someone, as a loan. Maybe she wanted payment, and the person decided to remove her.Lastly, NG may no longer be alive. Although family doesn't want to acknowledge this, they know it's reality.
Wow another one. They should take this seriously. It is funny to me that out of all the random emails, this one feels the most important. What do they have to lose at this point?View attachment 644362
“Every tip is reviewed for credibility, relevance, and information that can be acted upon by law enforcement,” the FBI Phoenix office said. “Threat Intake Examiners at the National Threat Operations Center (NTOC) and FBI personnel are supporting a 24-hour command post in which dozens of agents and investigators are assigned leads and tips to action each shift.”
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FBI releases new information about suspect in Nancy Guthrie disappearance
The FBI released new information on Thursday about the suspect in the disappearance of Nancy Guthrie, the mother of “Today” co-host Savannah Guthrie.www.wsmv.com
Charles Latibeaudiere, co-executive producer at TMZ, joins NewsNation to discuss the note sent to its tipline Thursday from the same individual who said they were willing to name Nancy Guthrie's kidnapper(s) in exchange for a bitcoin.
For the second time in as many days, TMZ received an email Thursday morning from a person claiming to know the identity of those who kidnapped Guthrie. The outlet received an email on Wednesday demanding the payment of 1 bitcoin in exchange for the name of the person responsible. As of this writing, no deposit has been made into the account provided.
Per TMZ, the person who sent the second note complained about "not being taken seriously." The outlet refrained from fully releasing all of the information contained in the note, in accordance with a request from law enforcement. However, it was noted that the sender made "ominous statements" and that payment was being sought so that they could "lay low" after identifying Guthrie's abductor out of fear of retaliation. The sender also reportedly stated that this would be their last attempt to help Guthrie's family and the police.
The value of 1 bitcoin as of late Thursday afternoon was just over $66,000 (per CoinDesk).
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Evidence Recovered In Nancy Guthrie Kidnapping Case As Second Bitcoin Note Emerges And FBI Ups Reward
'Today' host Savannah Guthrie's mother, Nancy Guthrie, has yet to be located as a second note seeking bitcoin in exchange for info has been received.screenrant.com
If she's missing there will certainly be a financial audit by her POA. Her house is in a revokable trust in her name. Assuming she has her three children on the trust there any fraud or illegal activity are going to come to
I think they have arrived at such a place, sadly.Unless we are at the finger-pointing stage of the investigation b/c both LE groups are frustrated
It has been given to LE. Video Link up threadsooooo why isn't that info given to police? Not directing this at you @txsleuth20
Not necessarily if one of the children is her POA...If she's missing there will certainly be a financial audit by her POA. Her house is in a revokable trust in her name. Assuming she has her three children on the trust there any fraud or illegal activity are going to come to light.
Yes!!!!Isn't the pacemaker attached to the heart? That would mean someone in her family surgically removed it. That's cold.
And yet we still have ZERO PROOF that NG ever made it home from AG and SIL house. Until that's conclusively proven they will remain under suspicion.You think that Occam's Razor = SIL/AG with no criminal record that has ever been reported (and it would have been at this point) suddenly killed an EIGHTY FOUR year old woman (her MOTHER) for the inheritance, hid the body well enough that it will take years to declare her dead to get said money, turned over their house, their car to LE with nothing found to arrest them as of yet and dressed up as a masked man to perform on a camera feed that was destroyed and found 2 weeks later?? You don't think this sounds contrived? I agree in normal situations absent evidence or data the last person to be seen with the victim when they were alive needs a hard look as a top suspect (and especially immediate family). But when info comes out that is contradictory occam's razor doesn't always point to them anymore. There is other information that makes it much less likely to be them imo.
I’d be surprised with the high noteriety of this case and the president even weighing in. I’d be shocked if that was the reason. jmoIs there any chance that the private lab could process it quicker than the FBI lab? I'm curious.
My apologies. Just home from work and trying to catch upYou have the neighborhood right? If you flick back through my posts, I believe it's somewhere between 1st Mountain Avenue and Sugar Hill neighborhoods.
Would also encourage people asking about location/distance/timing/sources to go back and read previous pages as we have touched on the Ring camera footage of the man with two backpacks already today![]()
DBMI’d like to know more about this before jumping to conclusions. According to the Reuters article, the county already spent a bunch of money doing DNA tests through this lab. This implies the lab already has comparative samples and reference samples, and it’s unclear if FBI has any of this. It may simply be far more expedient to use the contract lab at this point. Lot of pot-stirring going on lately.
JMO
I suggested similar couple days ago. Someone has continued to ask and borrow money and she finally got tired of it and said no...then argument ensued, even a slight push would topple someone with mobility issues. Maybe hit her head and they panicked and carted her out and it turned into a kidnapping, accidentally...JMOMaybe NG has, unknown to family, been paying/giving $$$ to someone, as a loan. Maybe she wanted payment, and the person decided to remove her.