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You would think the law enforcement/ FBI would be searching for a phone ping from the kidnapper

If the phone is turned off, law enforcement can access the last known location, which is the last cell tower the phone connected to before being powered down.

There are numerous cell towers and small cell poles in Tucson, Arizona, operated by major providers like AT&T, Verizon, and T-Mobile.

The City of Tucson maps small cell pole locations for both 4G and 5G upgrades, and T-Mobile specifically offers 5G home internet in the area.

I think this kidnapper had someone else waiting in a vehicle in the street.

He seems to be looking around when he pulls the bush out,

and might have had a phone on him to communicate with someone else to help get Nancy into the vehicle, most likely covered up with a blanket.

Showing the outside onto the road from the video, when it's done more clearly, could show something interesting as well
I feel more than confident that all cell phone data from the tower dumps around the time (even before and after) have been subpoenaed and are being analyzed as we speak. IIRC that is how/why they took the one suspect in custody, who they later released? I could be wrong, the story and this thread moves so fast.

Just because they release someone they bring in and question doesn't mean anything other than they don't have probable cause to hold them at that time.

Hope beyond hope for Nancy and comfort to the Guthrie family during this horrendous time.

JMO
 
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Have they considered putting more of a beard on him? Because that would looo

Should put a slightly longer beard on that, we can't see the beck in any footage so far so it could be longer.
Thanks for finding and posting. Haven't seen this yet in the major newspapers. Good find. And, suspect looks very similar to how we've described with a few adjustments with the beard. MO
 
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It’s my impression the sketch artist is actually quite renowned and did the sketch privately and posted it on her own socials as possible assistance with all pertinent disclaimers. What the media does after that probably shouldn’t be used to judge the artist.
 
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Interesting. I just googled the artist as I couldn't access that article, it had so many pop up ads. She's retired now but holds the Guinness world record for the most identifications made by a forensic artist.
Great, thanks!
Let's hope this is as accurate as her others. I wouldn't have pictured him like that.
 
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The gloves were found approximately 1 and 1/2 miles from the house, to they were just 'thrown', so that gives clues to the direction the suspect went. Not exactly, that maybe a 'false' trail laid by the 'person' who turned around and went in the opposite direction.
Or maybe they just randomly flew out of a passing worker's truck
 
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2/13/26

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Updated
February 13, 2026, 7:50 AM EST
By NBC News

What we know​

  • SUSPECT DETAILS: The FBI provided new details about the suspect seen in video on the porch of Nancy Guthrie’s home the morning she disappeared. Authorities said they are looking for a male who is 5’9” to 5’10” tall, with an average build, and said he was wearing a black, 25-liter Ozark Trail Hiker Pack backpack.

Will add to the media thread
 
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What doesn't add up is that family members went to the house to check on Nancy, if it was immediately obvious that Nancy was in danger because of the state of the house, then they wouldn't wait an hour to call 'law enforcement', they would call immediately. It sounds like it wasn't obvious, if it was obvious, then why did they wait? It doesn't take an hour to search a house if done 'methodically'.
With it having been reported that SG phoned Senator Mark Kelly before law enforcement was called, perhaps she wanted to discuss with him if he thought it was best to call local law enforcement first, both of them knowing Nanos’ history, or to contact the FBI directly.

JMO
 
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What doesn't add up is that family members went to the house to check on Nancy, if it was immediately obvious that Nancy was in danger because of the state of the house, then they wouldn't wait an hour to call 'law enforcement', they would call immediately. It sounds like it wasn't obvious, if it was obvious, then why did they wait? It doesn't take an hour to search a house if done 'methodically'.
Timeline shows 7 minutes from what I can tell. Where are you seeing an hour?
 
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What doesn't add up is that family members went to the house to check on Nancy, if it was immediately obvious that Nancy was in danger because of the state of the house, then they wouldn't wait an hour to call 'law enforcement', they would call immediately. It sounds like it wasn't obvious, if it was obvious, then why did they wait? It doesn't take an hour to search a house if done 'methodically'.
The updated timeline from one of the press conferences said they actually called 911 about 5 mins after arriving
 
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I hope they finally picked up Nancy's doormat

Imagine the potential DNA, the evidence they could get

And how many feet now have trampled on it!



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Interesting. I just googled the artist as I couldn't access that article, it had so many pop up ads. She's retired now but holds the Guinness world record for the most identifications made by a forensic artist.

I believe she is the same sketch artist from the Polly Klaas case and the Riley Ann Sawyers case.

Edited: Correction - I was going off of memory only. Lois Gibson was the sketch artist in the Riley Ann Sawyers case but Jeanne Boylan was the sketch artist in the Polly Klaas case.
 
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Cringe.

Everytime AB mentions her "source" take a drink.

Why is she still publicly stating this when this investigation is already a hot mess?

Edited: That is just my take from the outside looking in.
💯! The entire family is traumatized. AB is making things worse. IMO, She herself should be in the news and has some things to explain regarding some recently released files. IYKYK. MOO

Supposed LE/FBI infighting and finger pointing being leaked and reported about in the news is awful and IMO, Fd up.

This story shouldn’t be about them, or who gets the scoop first, or the amt of clicks. This is about NG. I fear that some journalists have lost the plot and are just pot stirring at this point. AB being one of them. MOO

Unrelated I hope Everyone has a fabulous Friday and weekend. Stay safe and look out for each other. ☮️❤️
 
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With it having been reported that SG phoned Senator Mark Kelly before law enforcement was called, perhaps she wanted to discuss with him if he thought it was best to call local law enforcement first, both of them knowing Nanos’ history, or to contact the FBI directly.
An article I saw said it takes hours for police to respond to 911 calls and sometimes they don't respond at all. Savannah Guthrie's mother abducted from upscale neighborhood as Tucson crime 'spins out of control'
 
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If the video of the suspect was taken at 2:12 a.m. then that means he disconnected the doorbell camera at 1:47 a.m. and then left the porch for some reason coming back to possibly retrieve it at 2:12 a.m.

Can the doorbell nest camera be disconnected via someone's phone or is it disconnected for instance by manually pulling wires out?
 
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I know some people find it hard to reconcile someone who’s fairly smart with tech being the same awkward, haphazard person we see in the doorbell video, but we all know people who are “book smart” or clever tech geeks yet lack common sense, or people who are smart and have common sense but have poor physical motor skills or practical prowess, or any combination of those traits. I’d wager that if Elon Musk or Bill Gates was in the position of the perp at the door, they’d be just as bumbling and clumsy.

JMO
 
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Interesting. I just googled the artist as I couldn't access that article, it had so many pop up ads. She's retired now but holds the Guinness world record for the most identifications made by a forensic artist.
It's an excellent sketch. It will get results. It should be easy too as I'm sure he's shaved his head and facial hair by now. Meaning, that obvious change should make it easier for people surrounding him to notice.

Amateur opinion and speculation
 
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It's an excellent sketch. It will get results. It should be easy too as I'm sure he's shaved his head and facial hair by now. Meaning, that obvious change should make it easier for people surrounding him to notice.

Amateur opinion and speculation
I just hope he's still in the U.S..
 
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View attachment 644471I think it’s SIL. The outline around the eyes on the mask is covering the top portion of the eyebrows. But you can see that the brows are nearly a unibrow. You can also see the shape of the head is very similar. The eyes are spaced apart the same. And the gray beard hairs are sticking out of the mask, indicating this is a long, full beard. You can also see the wrinkles under the eye indicating this is not a young man.
I don't know. The eye shape looks different to me. The SILs eyes slant down on the outer edge. He also has saggy upper eyelids. The beard sticking out is quite a catch if that's what it is.
 
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