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Playing devils advocate, unless porch blood was planted later.
DNA in blood can last for weeks to years depending on what weather conditions are. It's possible that those are old. Which would explain why there wasn't any smearing if someone was walking through it. JMO
 
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Not only that, but I'm fairly certain that Nancy had several pairs of gloves in her house, and if , like me, some without mates. JMO
Yes likely indeed. I’d also be inclined to believe if they found a glove inside the house at this late date, it’s be one left behind from some crime scene tech, or LE. MOO.
 
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Megyn Kelly made a comment about LE asking neighbours repeatedly about AG and SIL, and have they seen a phone.

There's still some doubts around whether she meant neighbours of AG or neighbours of Nancy (and we know for sure they have been talking to Nancy's neighbours)

I just listened to Megyn's comments again, and I wonder now if she actually meant LE were asking Nancy's neighbours about what AG/SIL are like, because when she mentions the phone, she says something like if the person (i.e. kidnapper) dropped it. Which would suggest it was Nancy's neighbours.

It seemed clear to me Kelly was talking about AG’s neighbors. She says LE keeps going back there to AG’s neighborhood to talk to neighbors and that they are also asking about a phone… “has anyone found a phone.”
 
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Are we 100% sure NG’s phone was found at her home?
Yes, it has been reported that they knew what was found in the home when the sheriff first investigated.
 
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over the last few days I’ve stuck to local news only as I trust them to give relevant and correct information. IMO - I don’t think some of the national outlets or YouTube reporters care to verify info and allow bogus interview guests and “experts.” I don’t believe our local reporters ever mentioned a glove inside the home. Not that I remember.
The glove and several items found was reported on NBC, the network of SG. That is not a random youtuber IMO 😅
They corrected it as of today stating it's unclear where these items were found.
It's somewhere halfway down the page.

 
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Her DNA was recovered in her home but they can't say if it was blood. Why not? I hope and pray she wasn't s*xually assaulted.
LE isn't revealing much about NG's blood that was found in her home. Likely an important reason that we aren't privy to. MOO
 
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Moo...could be tracks form a 2 wheel wheel barrow used for yard clean up.....moo
That is interesting. I wonder if it’s from equipment LE have been wheeling in….or perhaps a dolly the perp used to wheel NG out of the house?
 
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I think Megyn Kelly said they are looking for a phone, as though one might have been tossed or dropped somewhere in AG’s neighborhood. If true, LE may have detected a phone that was in the vicinity at a critical time that they have not been able to link to its owner.

I wonder if someone's phone was pinging in Annie's neighborhood Saturday evening when Nancy was over there and then discovered later to be pinging at Nancy's home.
 
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I actually interpret Megyn's transcript as AG's neighbors. I think AG's neighbors would have more insight into their character than Nancy's. The phone thing is weird, though. Unless there's a solid connection between the two locations, the intruder wouldn't have dropped a phone in AG's neighnorhood. It's all so confusing.
It is strange, unless Megyn confused her words, it sounds like they really do want to know if Nancy's neighbours have anything they want to share about AG and SIL. Its likely they would have been at Nancy's home alot, maybe they observed something, heard something, suspected something - maybe not even directly related to Nancy's disappearance, just in general

This is what confuses me and what the Sheriff has just said - its contradictory. Either they are taking a long time to rule out all the family, or they are having trouble ruling out all the family
 
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Moo...could be tracks form a 2 wheel wheel barrow used for yard clean up.....moo

Or moving something bulky that's unable to move on its own for some reason.


imo
 
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Are we 100% sure NG’s phone was found at her home?
Definitely reported by LE early on that NG"s phone was found at her home.
 
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NBC reported it yesterday. Gloves found at Guthrie residence, sheriff’s department says

This case is under such constant public and media scrutiny that even MSM is jumping the gun and reporting incorrect info, IMO.

Gloves found at Guthrie residence, sheriff’s department says​

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Liz Kreutz and Rebecca Cohen
Gloves found at Guthrie's house are being sent out for testing, the Pima County Sheriff's Department said in a statement this afternoon.

The department said "several items of evidence" were found, but provided no details beyond the gloves.

Pictures and videos released earlier this week by the FBI that include a possible subject in Guthrie's kidnapping show a person wearing black gloves, as well as a mask and a backpack. The person was also carrying a gun on their body.

Law enforcement is following up on all viable community leads. The sheriff's department said the community should expect increased law enforcement going forward.

CORRECTION (Feb. 123 2026, 8:56 a.m. ET): A previous version of this blog post incorrectly stated that investigators recovered several items of evidence at the residence, including gloves. It is not immediately clear where the evidence was found.

 
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I actually interpret Megyn's transcript as AG's neighbors. I think AG's neighbors would have more insight into their character than Nancy's. The phone thing is weird, though. Unless there's a solid connection between the two locations, the intruder wouldn't have dropped a phone in AG's neighnorhood. It's all so confusing.
Unless maybe a strange phone pinged a cell tower near NG and they are trying to figure out if AG/SIL have a burner phone. IMO it appears they don't have much else and are reverting back to the "usual suspects" so to speak (last known to see her & immediate family) even if there isn't anything else to tie them to it. And I wouldn't be surprised if the info that doesn't align with it being them, they just keep investigating to figure out why it should align (vs clearing them and focusing elsewhere) JMO
 
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You should call in the tip?
It may be worth sending in that tip plus the searches for her address (meaning the actual street address written out with zip, etc.) that occurred in January, as well. I would assume/hope LE would be doing similar searches on that type of clue anyway, but who knows. I'm also not sure what other info they can gather from such data without specific access rights or something
 
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Playing devils advocate, unless porch blood was planted later.

Sure it could have been planted, but it isn't likely that it was. Reason it is unlikely is because the Sheriff called in homicide pretty quickly, indicating evidence inside the home suggested that an obvious and substantial violent act took place. Only thing I can think of is blood in that case, because even a missing elderly person, a door being ajar or forced open, a home ransacked, fluids that weren't blood being on the bed or elsewhere, a family in utter shock and panic, or even spattered blood on the sidewalk, wouldn't suggest a violent home invasion and potential murder that quickly.

JMO.
 
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You should call in the tip?
I'm in the UK so I'll message them somehow. I work in analytics, so I expect they would've immediately run through the digital forensics, considering the physical forensics are lacking in this case, but I'll try and notify them anyway.

Edit: it's been reported to the FBI via their website. They have my full name and contact details; hopefully that lends a small amount of credence to my message
 
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