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THIS. Just my own 2 cents on this. I have always said to myself while watching true crime stuff that I understand that family members are looked at first, there is a reason for that. But if I truly did not do anything wrong, I would be screaming from a mountain top to get your investigation with me over and use your resources to go find my loved one. I would be telling everybody that I am innocent and have nothing to hide, there certainly is not a shortage of media around to get that word out. Again, that is just what I would do.
Bbm.
THIS ^^^
Esp. the bolded.
We have seen some carefully-worded statements; but nothing after that.
And again LE have said they aren't prepared to clear anyone yet.
Imo.
 
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LE and lawyers, including SG would have likely advised against that. It probably wouldn’t do much good for them anyways. Everyone would analyze every move and thing they said with such scrutiny. If they are innocent (which I suspect they likely are) I can’t imagine how all the suspicions would impact them emotionally.
I would love to be a fly on the wall in the place where they are all staying right now.
 
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Well, you have to admit that the number of times a bomb squad is called in is a bit high.
? No I think it suggests that this may be related to NGs kidnapping.
 
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We don't know how much they make but also SG makes a lot obviously, maybe she bought it for them.
Yep. They’re also in their 50s. We’re not privy to their entire employment and financial history, they’ve probably been saving for decades.

Honestly, the SIL ship has long sailed for me. That’s not him in the footage.

You can’t discreetly hatch a plot for someone else to kidnap and murder your MIL without LE finding out.

I know AB keeps insisting it’s him but I’ll remain skeptical until she offers up any kind of proof or explanation, which she hasn’t been able to do yet.
 
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Heya SW

HL TMZ said there was mention that this person's fears their freedom was at stake (sic)

So I thought maybe they are illegal... or even have warrant out on previous...
Yes in his latest letter he said he didn’t want to lose his freedom. That’s telling me he was a conspirator at least and wants to be paid for his “services” and leave town.
 
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I can't believe swat would move in with all these cars there, journalists....neighbors so close. IMO I wonder if they got calls to leave? IMO Hopefully the suspect is there, even though phone /pinged there, does not do away with himself. IMO
 
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Heya SW

HL TMZ said there was mention that this person's fears their freedom was at stake (sic)

So I thought maybe they are illegal... or even have warrant out on previous...
Ahhh gotcha Dinks. That would make sense especially in the current climate
 
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They may have been tracking him beforehand.

Undercover cops, other types of forensic/digital tracking.

Anyone know if that's standard operating procedure for warrants?

If it's potential POI already then they are under surveillance incl devices.

If someone they've only just traced, think recent msgs to TMZ, they may not have had a chance to get someone out to location. We can hope they do at least request a local officer to sit and watch building until they group and get out there.
 
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Is there a live streaming feed to watch what's going on?
 
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Any small flashlight or penlight can be held in the mouth. Doesn't have to be some specialized equipment.
Looks like the type of bike light I used to have. It was tiny, the outer was silicone type material and on the top a big area to press for on/off. I think I could have operated that with my teeth. Had a really bright LED light on it.
 
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This might rile some people but I'm one who still thinks that the SIL is a suspect. IMO, he either did the act himself or had help in getting it done. There had to have been a motive for this kidnapping/abduction. I'm thinking she took an Uber and showed up unexpectedly. There has been a post saying that a pizza was ordered. I think she had something she wanted to say and it did not go very well with her daughter and son-in-law. He has admitted taking her home. I do not see where anyone else had a motive.
I think she told them that the "the bank was closed" and that they were not getting anymore money from her. I have tried and just cannot see where the daughter and son-in-law could afford a $650,000 house. She was a poet and he was a biology teacher and a bass guitarist in a local band. The math just does not add up to me. Maybe someone else sees it differently, I don't.
They put a down payment of just under half the purchase price. Both work, it’s doable imo.
 
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I keep thinking about the 2 minute opening and closing of Nancy's garage door when family supposedly dropped her off that night. Two minutes is a very short time for her to get into the garage. And then to go in inner door into her house. Was that door unlocked? How could the family know whether she got into the actual house in that two minutes time frame? JMO
Sorry about these thoughts compiled during travel.
It was reported that the SIL said he watched her walk in to house. I do think she could navigate that in less than 2 minutes- the garage is basically 20/22 feet long. Without anything to go on- no word on break-in, I wonder if the perp slid in to garage from behind that bush to the immediate left when it was opened? Typically a garage is opened before arriving directly in front of it.
I just did a little walking, baby steps slowly from 10 feet in front of garage- it took 26 seconds to reach the entry to house door in the back, like Nancy’s set-up.. Unless the SIL did the backing-up maneuver to leave her in front and then drive off, he may have been doing that positioning as she walked in and did not see the perp follow her in. There is also a right side back of garage door out to what I assume is the covered patio. Possible ingress point. Maybe he caught Nancy as she opened the door to the house or maybe she didn’t immediately lock the door and he followed her in. That would imply perp/s were in the house several hours before somehow absconding. I’m of the opinion that Nancy struggled and put up a fight. She seems so independent despite her disability and a survivor by nature.
The mind twisting, parsed nature of all the communications, from all parties, is frightening in itself.
The supposed timeline shows the garage door opened ar 9:48 and closed at 10.00, correct? The only way I know that it could be reported with such precision is by way of a security system that logs when doors and garage are opened and closed. Maybe some windows.
And it would make sense for her ro have a security system. It would also explain why she didn’t have a Nest subscription to record videos, which would be redundant. It would explain the “camera” being “disconnected” at 1:47 but then showing what was initially described as “movement” at 2:12, when it later turned out the mask guy was there. The security system was turned off or disabled, it seems to me at 1:47 but the camera/s were still operational so it was someone’s job to go break it.

The Sheriff said at one point early on. to paraphrase. that Nancy was asleep or in her bed when she was abducted and that it was a disturbing scene.
There is a little card to the right of the front door that may be the standard “home security” warning notice, maybe.
Savannah’s husband is an immensely wealthy political and finance power player who has long run an international “crisis communication and management” firm. Go figure the bizarre, strange semantics and linguistic structure of their messaging.
How can a Sheriff be summarily dismissed and replaced with “ our own people”, according to the latest news flash. What does that even mean?
I feel sorry for the Sheriff, IMO caught up in some inexplicable creepy dynamics.
Why in the world is TMZ Harvey to go to guy, my gosh.
IMO MOO all as I watch this tragic Machiavellian drama scheme from afar. Truly sad and sorry that Nancy has so unjustly and brutally been used for nefarious purposes.
 
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Bbm.
THIS ^^^
Esp. the bolded.
We have seen some carefully-worded statements; but nothing after that.
And again LE have said they aren't prepared to clear anyone yet.
Imo.
Have there been any statements from the SIL? I may have missed them.
 

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