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Something I can't get out of my head:

SG called Sen. Mark Kelly immediately after 911 was called. Why?
I worked for a US Senator and it is NOT unusual for constituents to call, even if they aren’t acquainted with the office holder, when they’re in difficult and challenging situations. Senators have an incredible amount of resources at their fingertips and unfettered access to federal administrators and agencies.
 
  • #28,202
Yeah when I looked at the map I figured it was somebody who lived a mile or two south across that main road.

I’m shocked the possible perps were located north. Nice homes. Can’t even trust wealthy neighbors. Sad.
IF it turns out that the actual perps were two miles away this entire time, I will be shocked. (I like the term our UK friends use: "gobsmacked.") Last night, I opined that if they were smart, they'd be nowhere near Tucson. I thought they had crossed the border and were hiding out. I can't wait to find out if they actually have Ransom Person and Porch Guy in custody. Criminals are stupid. MOO.
 
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It’s in the same general area as NG. I am also in the area. I know you’ve mentioned a crime map. Crime is low in our area. Tucson is a weird place with crime pockets that are a few miles from expensive areas. But this neighborhood is low crime.
I think that poster means the map of the NG house and the media staging area tonight—not a crime map per se—but showing where NG crime happened
 
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I live on the east coast so I'm going to hit the hay. Crossing my fingers this is the real deal. If I wake up to a notification on my phone that says "Suspects detained have been released, search for Nancy Guthrie remains ongoing" then you might as well cue up the circus music.
 
  • #28,205

What we know​

  • INVESTIGATION LATEST: There is police activity tonight in Nancy Guthrie's neighborhood related to the investigation into her disappearance, a Pima County Sheriff's Department spokesperson confirmed.
  • SUSPECT DETAILS: The FBI provided new details about the suspect seen in videos on the porch of Nancy Guthrie’s home the morning she disappeared. Authorities said they are looking for a male who is 5’9” to 5’10” tall, with an average build, and said he was wearing a black, 25-liter Ozark Trail Hiker Pack backpack.
  • DNA COLLECTED: The sheriff tonight said that authorities are working to identify who DNA collected from Guthrie's property belongs to. The sheriff said it was not from Guthrie or someone in close contact to her, the department said.
  • REWARD INCREASED: The FBI has increased the reward for information leading to an arrest or conviction to $100,000. The agency says it has fielded more than 13,000 tips from the public since Feb. 1, when the mother “TODAY” co-anchor Savannah Guthrie disappeared from her home.
  • ARIZONA SEARCH: The sheriff's department says investigators combing the foothills around Guthrie’s neighborhood have recovered several items, including gloves that have been submitted for DNA testing.
  • 'WE WILL NEVER GIVE UP HOPE': Savannah Guthrie shared home movie footage of her mother and their family on social media, writing: “Our lovely mom. We will never give up on her. Thank you for your prayers and hope.”
  • Nancy Guthrie live updates: DNA from someone other than Guthrie was collected from her property
 
  • #28,206
Me too, but the purported and unverified occupation isn't what the Sheriff's tweet mentions. Think higher. JMO.
He’s held the position they mentioned.
 
  • #28,207
I worked for a US Senator and it is NOT unusual for constituents to call, even if they aren’t acquainted with the office holder, when they’re in difficult and challenging situations. Senators have an incredible amount of resources at their fingertips and unfettered access to federal administrators and agencies.
Thank you for this. Like I said earlier, when we were dealing with my niece missing, it never occurred to us to call our senator first (or second, after 911). Interesting.
 
  • #28,208
Crazy & scary how this house is so close to NG's. You never know who is watching you.
 
  • #28,209
BE reporting now on NewsNation that a "massive police presence" is still on the scene, particularly the FBI and an evidence unit. Search warrant is being executed right now at house. A man and a woman came out willingly when 2 SWAT vehicles arrived. A third person, a man, was detained at the traffic stop and is possibly related. BE was also told by authorities they expect to be at the home "all night".

BE also said his sources told him earlier today that something was "going down" tonight because someone in the home was being "surveillanced".

He doesn't have names/identities of the people that were in the home.

His FBI sources told BE that communication has been a "mess" between the sheriff and the FBI and they have been left "out of the loop."

Finally, BE when asked about the white van, said there are a "ton of white vans" in NG neighborhood, people constantly getting work done on their homes, and he wouldn't make too much of this information.
 
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News Nation just thanking Brian Entin for the exceptional reporting job he is doing on the NG case.
I agree completely. He is an outstanding reporter.

My opinion.
 
  • #28,211
So it’s being reported a medical examiner is on scene. I’m not in the US. Is that a coroner or something different?
ME/ Coroner~ when someone has passed
Ambulance for emergency
Very worried for Nancy at the monent
 
  • #28,212
If this person that was purported to live in a home that turns out not to be the home but literally across the street from the home, there would be levels of absurdity and coincidence about this case that will make me consider whether I am, in fact, living in an augmented reality shaped by an algorithm of chaos and malignancy.

JMO.
 
  • #28,213
BE reporting now on NewsNation that a "massive police presence" is still on the scene, particularly the FBI and an evidence unit. Search warrant is being executed right now at house. A man and a woman came out willingly when 2 SWAT vehicles arrived. A third person, a man, was detained at the traffic stop and is possibly related. BE was also told by authorities they expect to be at the home "all night".

BE also said his sources told him earlier today that something was "going down" tonight because someone in the home was being "surveillanced".

He doesn't have names/identities of the people that were in the home.

BE also said his FBI sources said that communication has been a "mess" between the sheriff and the FBI and they have been left "out of the loop."

BE also said the white van and said there are a "ton of white vans" in NG neighborhood, people constantly getting work done on their homes, and he wouldn't make too much of this information.

I actually counted white vans that I saw today out and about in my neighborhood. I saw 7! I would have never thought there would be that many in just a few hours! I only crossed one 'bigger' street, so I am sure there would be more if I crossed a major road/intersection.
 
  • #28,214
So much for setting up a perimeter when they allow drones.
Drones don’t have feet that walk bodies into crime scenes though
 
  • #28,215
I don’t like the looks of this van. 😢 Just now leaving.
 

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She mentioned she uses intuition in addition to technical details and experience. She shared she has succeeded nearly every time in cases with just fractured skeletal skulls to help ID deceased people.

ETA: "skeletal" and "deceased" for clarity
Yeah she has amazing skills no doubt and having pieces of the skull would be a great starting point to be able to draw off of. I have zero doubt she is exceptionally skilled. And by no fault of her own, I think she has the best intentions. But even by her own words this case is not conducive to being able to make a positive outcome without some guessing due to the mask.

I just can't see that it's of much help in this case, It almost seems like she was asked and she said yeah i'll take a swing at it.

I just don't have much faith in it based on the many cases I've followed.

And if LE had reached out and provided her with details that aren't known to the general public that had more detail I'd probably feel very different.

All jmo but I would be surprised if the perp ends up being identified from that sketch
 
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dbms
 
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Swat teams served a warrant at a house in the rain. 1 man and 1 woman detained. While the house situation was developing with SWAT, a white van was stopped and one male detained.

Lots of LE and FBI are at the house. Forensics are there as well. House location was 1.9 miles from Nancys.

BE had the scoop for the first bit. No other big MSM knew it was happening til 30-45min into his.

No word on how this is all related but we are told it is related to Nancy.
You’re a good egg.
 
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It doesn't seem to me that NG is in that house but that LE is looking for signs that she was there?
 
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