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There are similar holsters with slight differences from other companies. Probably find a bunch on ebay and Temu, AliEx etc.
Correct. This is what we call a "universal" holster. It is generally profiled for a long pistol frame. This is not a specific model holster, nor does it match the apparent semi-auto that was seen on the Nest cam footage. It is cheap and often found collecting dust in the $5 sale bins of gun stores. It also does not clip on like many belt/waist holsters but has a longer belt loop on it which explains the low handing front and center, dangling "appendix carry" that the suspect displayed.

Observations on it: - cheap, - mismatched so it did not come w/ the gun (maybe it wasn't a live firearm, or a cheap one on the black market) - mismatched, snaggable vinyl material so poor performance if the suspect needed to draw and use it (though I wouldn't count my life handling a firearm in those bulky gloves). It was also off color (minor detail, but black is more common and more useful).

Essentially nothing about it was good or efficient. I carry a custom profiled kydex holster that clips into the waistline/belt. It's the complete opposite of the features I described above in performance and use.
 
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If the focus for LE has again become the ransom messages, I’m curious what everyone’s thoughts are in regards to the first two being from one individual and the next three (from someone claiming they’ll give the name of the main individual for one bitcoin) being a different person? Is it possible all five are from the same person/group?

I don’t know if it was ever stated whether the bitcoin account was the same account in all communications or was there another account used/set up just for the newer communications?
 
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As our organs shut down, they start to break down, resulting in a certain smell. Have you ever smelled a dead deer?
Yes, and I’ll never forget that smell.
 
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This is from Megyn Kelly on youtube. Apparently a neighbor saw a guy on her ring camera snooping around on her porch looking suspicious. Please look and tell me this is not the exact man who was seen on Nancy’s porch and why hasn’t the sheriff released this picture to the public to warn them?
Only difference I can see is that Nancy’s kidnapper wore an outfit to cover who he is and the guy on this video did not. there is a clear picture of his face.
When he turns to walk away, his gait is the same and his hips are wider than his legs. Very same. And he has that look of the dark eyebrows, mustache and goatee. There is a profiler discussed here who drew a picture of what she thinks the masked man looks like. This video looks like a cross between DE and the picture the woman drew.
 
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Correct. This is what we call a "universal" holster. It is generally profiled for a long pistol frame. This is not a specific model holster, nor does it match the apparent semi-auto that was seen on the Nest cam footage. It is cheap and often found collecting dust in the $5 sale bins of gun stores. It also does not clip on like many belt/waist holsters but has a longer belt loop on it which explains the low handing front and center, dangling "appendix carry" that the suspect displayed.

Observations on it: - cheap, - mismatched so it did not come w/ the gun (maybe it wasn't a live firearm, or a cheap one on the black market) - mismatched, snaggable vinyl material so poor performance if the suspect needed to draw and use it (though I wouldn't count my life handling a firearm in those bulky gloves). It was also off color (minor detail, but black is more common and more useful).

Essentially nothing about it was good or efficient. I carry a custom profiled kydex holster that clips into the waistline/belt. It's the complete opposite of the features I described above in performance and use.
The butt of the mis-holstered pistol looked a bit like a Ruger SR22 to me.
 
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All four people questioned last night have been released​


edit: that's the actual headline, article like other sources says "3 people"

No one shot themselves in the head. There was a fatal deputy-involved shooting in a domestic that night.





Looks like Nanos is using the ole' map on the dartboard and detain 'em tactic. Bold move.
The video attached “Video from fatal deputy-involved shooting in Vail released” is NOT about the NG kidnapping.

The shooting referenced in the article / video occurred November 28, 2025, after multiple reports of domestic violence. Unfortunately the video of DV incident was released last night and is confusing some.

Please delete it from your post, Thank you.
 
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Hopefully the perp purchased the holster and the backpack recently at a local Walmart and perhaps LE can locate receipts with both items and track down the purchaser. However, there's no way of knowing whether they were purchased locally or at the same time or just something he found around the house that he'd had for years. I'm not sure whether this one is the actual holster or not; but I am sure that the perp put a semi-automatic weapon in a holster designed as a hip holster for a revolver and wore it in front of him. I've been around guns all my life and I have never seen anyone do that. They do make holsters to be worn in front - appendix holsters - but none of them would be worn dangling down in front of him like that - they are designed to be worn where the bottom of the weapon is above the pelvic area to allow for walking, running, sitting. If I hadn't seen the way this guy was wearing his I never would have believed anyone would do that. It has to tell LE something - I'm just not sure what!
 
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This article says the fatal shooting was last year not last night.
I will edit thanks.

The local station reported an interviewed person mentioning the "someone shot themselves rumor last night" but there is no follow up mention on their page.
 
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Hey! I'm new here. Is anyone able to tell me if Nancy has been found yet?
Welcome! 🤗
Sadly, Nancy is still missing. It’s probably best to dive in and start reading you’ll get caught up. Also check the media post for this case.
 
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Four people? I thought it was two men and one of their mums?
The video attached “Video from fatal deputy-involved shooting in Vail released” is NOT about the NG kidnapping.

The shooting referenced in the article / video occurred November 28, 2025, after multiple reports of domestic violence. Unfortunately the video of DV incident was released last night and is confusing some.

Please edit your post to delete article from the post, Thank you.
 
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The sketch by Lois Gibson.4
Sketch artist Lois Gibson released a sketch of what she thinks Nancy Guthrie’s kidnapper might look like
“I GUESSED at the parts of face covered with ski mask on this Nancy Guthrie kidnapping suspect. I used the surveillance photos shown,” Gibson warned after revealing her sketch to social med
 
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Nancy Guthrie: Body language expert says 'sociopath' likely was familiar with property​

Source: Fox News Affiliate Phoenix AZ Intruder's Body Language

Based on the person’s demeanor in the footage, Constantine suggested the subject was likely familiar with the property and may have a criminal history.

"So the fact that he showed like zero emotion even not even a thing of an eyebrow or tensing of the lip, because you would assume that that would create some sort of anxiety or attention, that he’s about ready to enter into this house completely flat line so what does that tell me? This guy is a sociopath," she said.


I don't know if reading body language is going to help crack the case. But it may help.
 
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The video attached “Video from fatal deputy-involved shooting in Vail released” is NOT about the NG kidnapping.

The shooting referenced in the article / video occurred November 28, 2025, after multiple reports of domestic violence. Unfortunately the video of DV incident was released last night and is confusing some.

Please delete it from your post, Thank you.
Already done and linked to the original Tuscon station that started the "shot in head rumor" and there's no mention of it on their site. (same station that got the ransom btw)
 
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The sketch by Lois Gibson.4
Sketch artist Lois Gibson released a sketch of what she thinks Nancy Guthrie’s kidnapper might look like
“I GUESSED at the parts of face covered with ski mask on this Nancy Guthrie kidnapping suspect. I used the surveillance photos shown,” Gibson warned after revealing her sketch to social med
Honestly, though, this looks like about 80% of Hispanic men between 30 and 60 living in the border region. You can go to any border town and see hundreds and hundreds of guys who could be this image's brother. Only difference is IRL they usually have a shaved head.
 
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I think one of those detained last night will be arrested once DNA results come back for them. That’s just my feeling. The amount of resources put into last night wasn’t for something minor. MOO
 
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IMO, it was because there weren't sure exactly what was in there and they didn't want to risk the press getting a picture of something terrible. I think it was prudent to block their view, along with everyone else's.
I do remember way up thread , a picture posted by a member of, prior to the tarp blocking the view , tailgate down , with items on it , one looking like a backpack . I wished I grabbed the photo . Does anyone recall seeing that , about 12 hrs ago ?
 
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