Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

[DizzyB]

Do we know that when A got the call from NG’s friend that she didn’t check the cameras then not seeing NG, or worst seeing something disturbing instead of her mom, race to the home after a minute of looking around there in increasing panic called 911?

My mom did not like wearing the alert necklace. They are kind of long.

But most of all she was very dressy to her last day and social so she wasn’t going to wear the old lady thing.

It’s the cameras that let them keep their independence and live alone in a big house like that, imo.

Once they have one close call one way or another and scare themselves they are more willing to be checked on.

If they are by themselves in a big house with lots of outdoor seating and a pool it seems prudent to have the cameras.

Simple falls can turn serious if the elderly get stuck on the floor for a long time.

With the guest house there was room in the future for live in help. But maybe she wasn’t there just yet.

All imo

We had cameras set up in an elderly relative’s home, but only viewed the feed when we had a concern. Even though he was old, it felt like an invasion of privacy. Alerts were shut off because they would have been constant. I could see that being the case here. When family got the call, they may have checked the cameras and did not see Nancy, and raced over.

 

[GatorFL]

Multiple cameras inside the house? Is that usual?

Very common with the elderly. I work with the elderly and often suggest Nest cameras to families in cases where an elderly person refuses a life alert type fob. Probably more cameras than fobs in our patient census.

 

[SaraSmile]

DBM

 

[nycpizzaparty]

To me, it seemed passive-agressive. He said she might be found, 'in one hour, or weeks, months, or years."

As if he wanted to upset people without doing so openly. Passive-agressive.

There's nothing worse than an incompetent person with a fragile ego and control issues to hold everyone else hostage for the sake of preserving their own delusions of self.

 

[Momtoapug]

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IYO. The article did not say she never got the mail herself. It mentioned just ONE instance where are friend helped her. It doesn’t even specify how the friend helped. People often times “help” others without their consent. We have no clue if NG even needed the help, it says NG insisted on getting the mail. I take that to mean that the friend insisted on helping. MOO
Quote from your article
“ Her toughness has always surfaced in difficult moments, like when her husband died suddenly in 1988, or when budget cuts threatened a vital public health service at the university where she worked, or even two days before her disappearance, when she insisted on walking to the end of her gravel driveway to get the mail, even if a friend had to help.”

 

[whitelilac]

something that I find odd is it seems few of the homes I have seen on maps in the area have fences or gates, don't coyotes and other wild animals live in the area?

We have coyotes here...it's an issue with pets etc. Coyotes have the ability to get over a 7 to 8 ft high fence or wall. Lots of cases here.

 

[EyeCandy]

thank you .. looks about the same difference. Perhaps if the friends vehicle was parked in the garage driveway they did travel thru the garage. I was simply thinking since the article says they were playing games 2 days before she went missing, I in my brain figured the friend who was playing with her maybe walked her to the mailbox out the front door.
Upon second thought, she could have also gone out the garage door, as the friend was leaving perhaps, the friend saying hey I will help you get the mail while we are here ... sounds doable

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I drew red lines to show the path both from the front door or the garage to the mailbox. Google Maps

This likely all doesn’t make any difference, but just moonk you ..

 

[Deleted member 272706]

I love reading others thoughts and reasoning. Good post.

Thanks! At this stage, I’m just trying to think the polar opposite of what it looks like, since it appears this case was a tougher to crack than first though. Hopefully, I’m wrong about that, and this is the calm before the storm.

I also don’t think the suspect ever planned to withdraw/move bitcoin, either now or before. I think he’s just let it sit there and fester, as a total troll would do.

 

[Absoluterubbish]

WTAH???

https://twitter.com/x/status/2022814782705820000

They likely don’t have enough to arrest yet but would have taken his DNA for testing as well as his car which we saw

 

[su5ie]

Another thing of note is , in the previously posted video of the perp heading into the porch to take the camera . He looks down to gauge where the step is . Remember it is pitch black but yet he seems to know at the very least its probable position .

So imo he has been at the house before and probably on more than one occasion jmo

 

[SlimPickens]

This is not necessarily true. FBI can assist locals with violent crime cases when asked, and they can use federal authority when doing so. It’s still a local investigation run by locals with state charges for violation of state crimes, but FBI can run their stuff through fed courts in as much as they’re assisting the investigation.

JMO

The FBI cannot obtain a federal warrant for a crime that pertains only to a state criminal statute/matter, and by definition if a federal criminal statute has been violated it supersedes a similar state one. That the FBI was able to obtain a federal warrant regarding this case is prima facie evidence that necessary components exist within this crime to make it a federal crime. Which then makes the FBI the primary investigators of this crime.

JMO.

 

[Napoli]

I don’t know. Your theory’s motive is money? That supposed ransom came much later and it didn’t make sense. Ransoms are delivered immediately to the family. They tell them not to contact authorities or they’ll hurt their loved one. Who sends a ransom to the media immediately alerting authorities? On top of that, who writes that you’ll never hear from them, the perp or perps, again?

If this was a gang initiation, you don’t take a body with you.

Did they ever confirm that nothing was stolen from the house? Have they ruled out robbery?

Correct me if I am wrong. She was found missing by her family on Sunday FEBRUARY 1. Ransom note came in on the morning of FEBRUARY 3 to TMZ and a couple of other news outlets that were local. Perp was waiting for news to break. Attention was desired. IMO. he sure got it. SG had a stalker who wanted her attention. Involving TMZ, which is an entertainment outlet, just further cements it for me. JMO and i am sticking to it!

 

[SaraSmile]

Exactly. They spent 2 hours going through the Range Rover and then had it towed away. There has to be something there. IMOO

Right, more DNA to find.

I missed part of yesterday, who owns the grey Range Rover, taken from the burger place?
How does the RR fit into yesterday’s raids?

Thanks in advance. jMO

 

[EyeCandy]

it specifically says the friend helped her .... but whatever. She has mobility issues to the point the article states she quit going out a lot, preferring to stay home. Seems she had friends who liked to visit her and help. The friend helped her to the mailbox, its clear

 

[Tate123]

Her toughness has always surfaced in difficult moments, like when her husband died suddenly in 1988, or when budget cuts threatened a vital public health service at the university where she worked, or even two days before her disappearance, when she insisted on walking to the end of her gravel driveway to get the mail, even if a friend had to help.

Don't see them going out the garage way though to the mailbox when it looks like it is straight down the pathway from the front door ... or am I seeing something else that is not the mailbox

I would certainly go the shorter distance to my own mailbox since I have mobility problems

It also seems from the article that 2 days before disappearance she had friends in for games and I guess early birthday party and that this is when they went to mailbox

Said she would sit up a game table in the living room...which I'd think would be the first room from the front door

all speculation and my opinion .. I have mobility issues from 5 femur surgeries so I know about limiting distance

Is there any info on what caused her mobility ... just age or had she had surgeries other than the pacemaker?

Many elderly people with mobility issues struggle with steps..especially if they use a cane. I believe there are a few steps she would have to walk down if she used the front door.

 

[academyrd]

Respectfully, LE do not owe the public any kind of explanation. We have no idea what they are working off of or what led them to treat the situation Friday like they did, nor should we.
I’m sure, besides the family, no one wants to get to the bottom of this more than the officers and agents working nonstop through this mess.

They have been an embarrassment this last couple weeks. Can’t imagine them doing a worse job

 

[Silverstorm]

Nancy Guthrie cops 'did not arrest ANYONE' after two dramatic raids
It was the Daily Mail that I read this morning that an NBC affiliate KVOA had unconfirmed report of a neighbor seeing someone shoot themselves in the head during the SWAT raid of the Tucson home but no further information about the alleged incident”

 

[turaj]

ANYONE else find it strange that there are no organized searches? One lady who volunteers anywhere they are searching for missing people including bodies can't believe there is nothing organized. I don't get it. Also I think LE does owe at least a press conf. every few days with update on things. I have never seen a crime like this with no press conferences.

 

[Momtoapug]

Agree with you completely. I have done this on the past for elderly family, if you don’t set exclusion zones, the alerts are constant. It’s also why people who don’t fully understand how the camera works end up turning off alerts, etc.
MOO

 

[submarine7]

Correct me if I am wrong. She was found missing by her family on Sunday FEBRUARY 1. Ransom note came in on the morning of FEBRUARY 3 to TMZ and a couple of other news outlets that were local. Perp was waiting for news to break. Attention was desired. IMO. he sure got it. SG had a stalker who wanted her attention. Involving TMZ, which is an entertainment outlet, just further cements it for me. JMO and i am sticking to it

I wish we could see the letters! I agree this person likes the attention.