AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

[Rumination1]

But that is exactly it, the person decides to rob the property, he makes his entrance, has his little 'flashlight', Nancy is a sleep. He continues looking around at what he could steal. As well as looking at things, he looks at 'photos', he recognises Savannah Guthrie; ah 'bingo', more then just objects to steal. I won't speculate on what happened next.

But then what ? Suddenly with no prep figures how to remove and hide her, how to communicate re ransom and the method to receive bitcoin ?
That’s a lot of luck in that three day window before note sent .

I’m more inclined to believe they knew exactly whose house it was.

I’d imagine a lot of locals were aware . Round here the two celebrities parents I know if , I know their address .

 

[cathathorse]

Apologies if doubled

A question I have is , we have one of those ring doorbell cameras and I realised the other day ( when we lost it ) it needs a special screwdriver to remove and charge it
Surely he didn’t just rip it off ?

Yes the Nest needs a special screwdriver too but I believe he ended up smashing the Nest and did not take it with him. In the February 5th press conference the sheriff clearly says they have sent the camera to the tech company for analysis.

 

[Nikynoo]

If you have a kidnapped person in your car, also having gloves in the car is the least of your worries.

That said:

3) Keep a can in the car of something to dissolve the gloves.

4) keep a can in the vehicle to set fire to it and evidence contained therein.

 

[maamager]

Could this have been a home invasion that went bad so they tried to turn it into a missing person without even realizing who she was?

no, not in my opinion.

 

[GailAnne]

This is the most obtuse click-bait headline.

How does it MATCH the person "seen"? The DNA does not match anything, they are saying there is DNA on a glove that "LOOKS" like the generic disposable black gloves seen in the Nest footage. That's it. That's what the article (and others) are currently saying.

Likely matches the unknown DNA found in Nancy's house that did not match anyone they took DNA samples from, including the workers and family.

 

[Fargo]

Apologies if doubled

A question I have is , we have one of those ring doorbell cameras and I realised the other day ( when we lost it ) it needs a special screwdriver to remove and charge it
Surely he didn’t just rip it off ?

 

[penguinface]

They could have saved everyone the confusion by simply saying the gloves appear to "visually" match the gloves of the suspect.
Sheesh

I think they probably figured that saying “The one with the DNA profile”, made it clear they were referring to the glove itself, not the DNA. Not saying they couldn’t have worded it better, but I can see what they were intending/thinking.

JMO

 

[Sessiebo]

Later on they said that the "emails" were actually submitted through tip forms to the tv stations. I don't know what would be involved in tracing something like that. Definitely outside my wheelhouse.

What we know about the ransom notes in the Nancy Guthrie case

Both TMZ and KOLD representatives said wording in the messages suggests the sender has familiarity with the Tucson area.

www.newsnationnow.com

Usually there is data attached to such a form, for example an IP adress. However if it's behind a VPN of sorts, it bounces off of IP adress(es) around the world - JMO

 

[maskedwoman]

why would the sheriff have a “pecker” contest with the FBI unless he knows something about who did it? Every part of this case is fishy. Also, why would anybody kidnap an old lady with as many issues as Nancy has and give no proof of life? What has been shared with the media is much less than what has been shared in previous kidnapping cases. And why not give ransom demands directly to the family?

Several former employees have commented on his robust ego. If that is true, I would imagine it's very difficult for him to take a backseat to the FBI. Or anyone else. This is not the link to Brian's account but I did watch the video and this is it.

https://twitter.com/x/status/2022161074163003421

 

[Sdow]

This is the most obtuse click-bait headline.

How does it MATCH the person "seen"? The DNA does not match anything, they are saying there is DNA on a glove that "LOOKS" like the generic disposable black gloves seen in the Nest footage. That's it. That's what the article (and others) are currently saying.

I woke to this news on telly here in Aus and got a bit excited that it might match someone that was detained the other day. But sadly no. Very misleading.

 

[penguinface]

Yes the Nest needs a special screwdriver too but I believe he ended up smashing the Nest and did not take it with him. In the February 5th press conference the sheriff clearly says they have sent the camera to the tech company for analysis.

Wasn’t he referring to the roof camera in that conference?

 

[Duk3]

I don't think the notion of a physical ransom note is obsolete.

It would be less traceable than some electronic communication.

Find some 8.5x11" generic office paper, use a printer one already has owned for a while, print a brief message and handle with gloves. Dispose of printer in a normal black trash bag. Job done.

Vs using a phone, computer or other means to transmit an e-demand.

The problem is with receiving the ransom. The days of saying "leave it under the third park bench from the right" are long over. I've racked my brain and cannot come up with a way for the drop or handoff to happen that doesn't seriously jeopardize the perp.

BBM

That would be great for LE but not so clever for the prep as every print-out has a unique "fingerprint" that allows someone to trace it back to the machine that made it... not just which model it is but exact individual machine that made the individual print, even if each machine was the same printer model. A fascinating fact I learned just recently!

Source: Printer tracking dots - Wikipedia

 

[Sessiebo]

Could this have been a home invasion that went bad so they tried to turn it into a missing person without even realizing who she was?

Maybe he/they realized who she was when inside the house and seeing pictures of her famous daughter, recognizing SG? I can imagine a proud mom has many pictures of her children hanging around the house.
Idk - JMO

 

[Nikynoo]

I think the theft aspect makes it something more than just petty vandalism. Under Arizona Revised Statute 13-1602, vandalism is defined as recklessly damaging, defacing, or tampering with another person's property, with theft (if it occurs,) coming as an additional charge on top of the vandalism charge.

JMO

Come to think of it, why would he take it with him? Why not just discard it?

 

[tbgo]

Didn’t they just say cameras were also inside the home?

 

[submarine7]

Sure, but like I said, even if it hits with a random sample in the house that's not a gotcha. She had workers coming and going, maybe on came in to use the bathroom or talk about the job. Usually they come in to settle the bill. So you found a workers glove that worked on her house on the side of the road.

We still can't establish a definitive crime and have no publicized evidence of it that we know (the Nest cam shows a guy walking up to the front door --that was not breached after her disappearance- and commit petty vandalism, that's it). We have reasonable suspicion of a crime but unless they have other video evidence or other clear evidence we don't know of it's still a bit of a blind spot as to what went down and who exactly was responsible.

Of course I get they would test all this, but it's hardly a "breakthrough" yet as some of the articles say.

I agree, a lot of media is irresponsible and some seems to be driven by that deceptive angle because it drives traffic. It's importance is exaggerated in this way. I hope it is true but we aren't there.

If we take current news to heart, we are still at square one. I hope there's some key items being withheld that will help solve this case.

 

[Rumination1]

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Yes the Nest needs a special screwdriver too but I believe he ended up smashing the Nest and did not take it with him. In the February 5th press conference the sheriff clearly says they have sent the camera to the tech company for analysis.

and what about analysing the cameras inside her home which I heard they had.?

Re the people who say it’s weird to have that
My friend the other day told me her mum has them due to living many miles from her children but as they realise , it shows limited footage of the multiple places mum might fall, but are yet to develop a better ( agreed to ) solution.

Also , I had a thought … what if the kidnapper does actually have access to a prepared stash of her medication? To reveal proof of life now would highlight awareness of her medical history .

The ransom demands seem to have fizzled … what does that mean?they have given up seeking money ?

 

[penguinface]

Come to think of it, why would he take it with him? Why not just discard it?

Maybe he feared it might be the type of camera that has a micro-SD card slot, which records the footage locally on the device, as well as sending it to the cloud, as a backup in the event of a lost/disabled WiFi connection.

JMO (as my own cameras have micro-SD cards in them!)

 

[penguinface]

I

and what about analysing the cameras inside her home which I heard they had.?

Re the people who say it’s weird to have that
My friend the other day told me her mum has them due to living many miles from her children but as they realise , it shows limited footage of the multiple places mum might fall, but are yet to develop a better ( agreed to ) solution.

Also , I had a thought … what if the kidnapper does actually have access to a prepared stash of her medication? To reveal proof of life now would highlight awareness of her medical history .

The ransom demands seem to have fizzled … what does that mean?they have given up seeking money ?

If they realised the family aren’t going to pay anything without proof of life, and that’s something that they are unable to provide, I can see why they’d think their initial hope of getting a payout had become a lost cause.

JMO

 

[Sessiebo]

Didn’t they just say cameras were also inside the home?

As stated on Time Magazine:

"Guthrie’s doorbell camera was disconnected around 1:45 a.m. on Feb. 1. The camera’s software detected movement about half an hour later, but no video is available. Then, just before 2:30 a.m., Guthrie’s pacemaker was disconnected from her phone, according to an app for the device."

What We Know About the Suspect in Nancy Guthrie’s Disappearance

Authorities have released "new identifying" details about a suspect in Guthrie's possible kidnapping.

time.com