AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

[tbgo]

But still… WHAT was the motive

Afraid of leaving DNA on the body to be found, an accidental killing by someone close to her who staged the scene/disappearance, or possibly revenge for something. Other than that, maybe a weirdo who collects bodies for some weird reason? It’s a lot to go through, taking an 84-year-old woman with mobility issues. It would help in getting you caught, drawing attention to yourself. It’s kind of hard to transport a body and not raise suspicion. There probably was some luck involved in this case too.

 

[SaraSmile]

Seems like you would have to take the light out of your mouth at some point and put some DNA on a glove. MOO

Saliva, Yes, good strong DNA. Plus touch DNA on wrist, maybe, where skin touched( even if 2 pairs), or touched wrist area while putting on gloves, also Good DNA
JMO

 

[Diddian]

So do I have this correctly???...No sign of forced entry? Is that right? If so, she must have opened that front door and got punched in the face..something similar for that blood to be on the porch.

If this is right...why on earth would she open that door and not call 911??? Just trying to catch up and wrap my head artound stuff.

The only thing that I could imagine to explain NG opening the door at a late hour (only to be punched in the nose and led away), is a young woman knocking on her door shortly after NG arrived back home and claiming that a package was misdelivered there and she is there to collect it. That is, it would have to be a nonthreatening-appearing person asking for a moment’s help for an easy to resolve routine problem between neighbors (I.e., package misdelivered).

But I think that the later after 10 pm it got, the lower the likelihood that NG would be responding at the door to help, no matter who it was there.

We are told that NG’s pacemaker disconnected from her app sometime after 2 am.

So in this supposed scenario, they’d have to keep NG there at the scene for hours after the ruse at the front door and the punch in the nose.

I’m still not clear on the disconnect between pacemaker and app. Was it connected all the time from 9:50 until the disconnect after 2 am? OR, did it just not connect at a regularly scheduled time of roughly 2 am. The difference matters.

 

[tarabull]

 

[Cassie P]

"Nanos initially told NBC News, “When you’re taken from your bed and you don’t want to go somewhere, that’s an abduction.” But Nanos “meant that figuratively and did not mean she was literally taken from her bed,” the sheriff’s department later clarified to NBC."

Key questions surrounding abduction of Savannah Guthrie's mother as 'Today' host asks for prayers

Law enforcement believes Nancy Guthrie was abducted from her bed in Arizona, but they’ve been tight-lipped about what details led them to that conclusion about the 84-year-old mother of “Today” anchor Savannah Guthrie.

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Thanks. So she could have come to the front door and been taken there. Seems more likely she was asleep or in her bedroom at that hour of the night. And if she was hearing impaired did not hear the door camera notification go off.

 

[cady]

None of them reported which door the alleged forced entry happened at though. JMO but personally, I don’t think doorcam guy’s intention was to get NG to open the door.

I don't either. It was to move her out, in whatever condition she was in. jmo

 

[jtfolden]

Someone else here stated he did eventually use a screw driver to take off the camera, maybe he doesn't think on his feet, and needed a minute to figure out what to do??

My door bell camera sound is unique. So I know right away it is someone at the door. Yes if she is hearing impaired she might not hear it.

But the point is the Latana man did not know any of that. So that is why he grabbed the plant to obscure the camera right away?

We have absolutely zero evidence of how he removed the doorbell. We only know that it was removed. Yes most brands do use a screwdriver or a tool but those are not required. These devices are made of PLASTIC. You can easily pull them or break them off their mounts with enough pressure. Mine even will play a very loud alarm sound if someone forces it off of its mount. A well placed elbow would do it.

Someone who is experienced in gaining entry to someone’s home should have been aware of potential cameras and have some idea what to do. I’ve never broken into someone’s home but I’m very aware that a lot of people have doorbell cameras, etc…

 

[warp3dwing]

So she gets hit hard in the face in the bedroom. As she is being carried out she is choking a bit on the blood, sneezing, coughing, etc. Then regular bleeding?

To add another data point, a former CSI on social media said that splattery looking blood area could be caused by blood hitting blood. So, essentially drops hitting a small pool of blood, creating the smaller spatter.

I’ve also heard it looks like medium velocity spatter from other CSIs, so who knows.

I thought it looked more like medium velocity spatter or expectorated blood, but I have to admit that drops hitting drops kind of makes more sense given the location.

 

[Trino]

So she gets hit hard in the face in the bedroom. As she is being carried out she is choking a bit on the blood, sneezing, coughing, etc. Then regular bleeding?

And, then, what does one do with an 84 yr old, on meds, injured woman?

 

[tbgo]

Hmm.

 

[BellaToothless]

Even if the WiFi wasn’t working (and it obviously was since the video footage we’ve seen was uploaded to Google servers) the doorbell would still have power. In fact the Nest can locally store up to an hour of footage if it looses connection to the internet.

It does appear to have been battery operated as well BUT we know another camera apparently detected motion several minutes after the doorbell had been disconnected so it doesn’t sound like wifi or power could have been cut.

We have cameras set up on floors for fall and some motion detection at home. They are plugged in the wall with short term battery backup.

 

[Dotta]

https://twitter.com/x/status/2023155530433274289

"Democratic Rep. Alma Hernandez slammed amateur reporters and internet sleuths for camping outside Nancy Guthrie's home since news broke of her disappearance
(pictured on Sunday)."

 

[shonyakay]

I hoped they searched every nook and cranny around the area where the pair of gloves were found.

 

[SaraSmile]

S


So a random commonly used disposable glove on the side of the road (they found many according to Nanos) will get a CODIS hit. Then what? How do you link that to an actual crime when you don't know what crime has yet been comitted and this glove was miles away from the missing person's scene.

Find the person, interview them, Alibi, etc.

 

[birdbox]

I know this may seem off topic, but hang with me here. When Stephen McDaniel was interviewed by a reporter outside the apartment where his neighbor Lauren Giddens went missing from, he tried to suggest a "solution" as to why she was missing. He mentioned maybe she went out for a jog. The interesting thing we can learn from this interaction with her killer is a brief insight to the mind of a murderer before they were even a suspect. He was very sincere and offering to help, freely spoke with reporters and offered up his own idea of what happened. So here's my tie in to NG case. Have any neighbors been interviewed on TV by any sources? Did they offer alternative theories? Just a suggestion to watch the Stephen McDaniel interview as a point of reference. Hope this makes sense to Tricia and im not in trouble.

 

[Arkay]

Vultures

I am sure that I am not the only one who has thought about this, but I wonder if LEO has been monitoring vulture behavior in the area. They are the largest scavenger bird in the area, and often gather to scavenge on dead carrion in area.

Lol I just wrote about this a few posts above yours!
Sad that we have to start thinking about this.

 

[jtfolden]

But we also aren't a criminal who contrived a home invasion and kidnapping (and likely a digitally anonymous ransom demand), and one who clearly had the foresight to dress adequately for the occasion. This almost certainly wasn't his first rodeo, and if it was he checked a lot of boxes.

JMO.

To be honest, he was dressed like you see perps dressed in a hundred movies. Hell he was dressed, backpack and all, like the serial killer in BBC’s The Fall. You’re right that any reasonably smart criminal should expect cameras but what little we see of him doesn’t indicate he has any special skill for this that couldn’t be gleaned from a movie or tv show.

 

[Stunned]

Then why not just leave her at the house?

Maybe because she pulled a mask off? IMO

 

[Cassie P]

We have absolutely zero evidence of how he removed the doorbell. We only know that it was removed. Yes most brands do use a screwdriver or a tool but those are not required. These devices are made of PLASTIC. You can easily pull them or break them off their mounts with enough pressure. Mine even will play a very loud alarm sound if someone forces it off of its mount. A well placed elbow would do it.

Someone who is experienced in gaining entry to someone’s home should have been aware of potential cameras and have some idea what to do. I’ve never broken into someone’s home but I’m very aware that a lot of people have doorbell cameras, etc…

Thanks, so we are just guessing that he somehow removed it?

Yes most people have doorbells with cameras these days? Older people get these things as gifts from the kids and grandkids who insist we use them.

Yes that is what is puzzling about Lantana Man. He is unprepared for a camera at the front door. Despite the fact he is committing a capital crime and could face life in prison or the death penalty. I would think he would do his homework.

 

[nerosleuth]

Yes if her hearing aides were on the bedside stand, she might not have heard the doorbell alert. Mine is quite loud, but I don't know how hearing impaired NG was.

Yes the police said she was taken from her bed? So that sounds like she did not hear the front door activity?

This thought just came to me. Was anything ever mentioned about her bedroom door?

DId she sleep in her bedroom with the bedroom door locked?

If her bedroom door was locked, the perp would either have to pick the door lock or break the bedroom door down.

I don't think anything was ever mentioned about the bedroom door in her home.