AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

[Cassie P]

But her hearing aids were left behind. If she didn’t sleep with them in then it’s likely she didn’t hear any commotion or a phone alert and was instead confronted with masked men in her room upon stirring. As awful as that is to think about.

Yes if her hearing aides were on the bedside stand, she might not have heard the doorbell alert. Mine is quite loud, but I don't know how hearing impaired NG was.

Yes the police said she was taken from her bed? So that sounds like she did not hear the front door activity?

 

[HoffaUnderground]

102K views · 1.2K reactions | Man caught on film trying to break into someone’s home 6 miles away from Nancy Guthrie’s home… is this the masked man that took her? #SavannahGuthrie #NancyGuthrie #truecrime #missing #thepascalshow | The Pascal Show

Any thoughts on this second video that this person is talking about. Second male suspect trying to break into a nearby home in the same neighborhood a week earlier?

 

[Arkay]

Good points.
I’m still thinking NG’s body was left somewhere about 5-10 miles away. Far enough to avoid easily finding it, close enough, perp doesn’t drive around much with a DB in car ( Sorry about the DB talk).

JMO

Vulture Culture - Arizona-Sonora Desert Museum

I have some family in Tucson but haven’t been there for years.

Desert culture is not for me.

Having said that, your post made me wonder about vultures, since I’m ignorant as to their presence in the Arizona desert. Also the great info @Bodhi’s post.

The link above informs me that there are in fact vultures there, and while I feel sick thinking about it, I know that is one way that investigators sometimes find a body despite the vastness of the land.

Excerpt from museum article:

“In the U.S. they are more commonly found in the Southeast and are more rare in the Southwest. Arizona is one of the few places they are still found. Their range includes areas from Mexico through most of South America.”

I’m hoping of course that this is proved unnecessary and Nancy is still alive, somewhere, somehow.

Just my speculation.

 

[SlimPickens]

But lantana man may be a layperson as well. Not a home security expert. We are proving here on this forum that even though we surrounded by these gadgets we have no idea how they actually work and how they are powered.

Yes most of us might guess that if you cut the wifi and/or the electricity it will cut the cameras and the phone alerts.

But we also aren't a criminal who contrived a home invasion and kidnapping (and likely a digitally anonymous ransom demand), and one who clearly had the foresight to dress adequately for the occasion. This almost certainly wasn't his first rodeo, and if it was he checked a lot of boxes.

JMO.

 

[mickey2942]

Vultures

I am sure that I am not the only one who has thought about this, but I wonder if LEO has been monitoring vulture behavior in the area. They are the largest scavenger bird in the area, and often gather to scavenge on dead carrion in area.

 

[SouthAussie]

Yes the police said she was taken from her bed? So that sounds like she did not hear the front door activity?

"Nanos initially told NBC News, “When you’re taken from your bed and you don’t want to go somewhere, that’s an abduction.” But Nanos “meant that figuratively and did not mean she was literally taken from her bed,” the sheriff’s department later clarified to NBC."

Key questions surrounding abduction of Savannah Guthrie's mother as 'Today' host asks for prayers

Law enforcement believes Nancy Guthrie was abducted from her bed in Arizona, but they’ve been tight-lipped about what details led them to that conclusion about the 84-year-old mother of “Today” anchor Savannah Guthrie.

www.kcra.com

 

[TIGER0822]

But we also aren't a criminal who contrived a home invasion and kidnapping (and likely ransom demand), and one who clearly had the foresight to dress adequately for the occasion. This almost certainly wasn't his first rodeo, and if it was he checked a lot of boxes.

JMO.

Agreed!

 

[SaraSmile]

Maybe contemplating how he can flip on the rest of the crime crew. Make a plea deal. The first to squeal gets the best deal.

Good question, maybe they have family in Tucson, don’t want to leave, take their chances, deal with a plea.
Leaving the country means leaving all behind, setting up a new life, maybe perps didn’t think that far ahead.

JMO

 

[lonetraveler]

The dna from the glove can not be entered into CODIS right away but can it be compared to the dna samples the lab has already right away? The samples from family and house staff.

Or, the searchers?

 

[Cassie P]

I am stuck on LE's early assessment that the blood splatter on the front porch was possibly aspirated.

"Blood aspiration, which is based on an intact breathing activity, is one of the forensically most important vital reactions."* So, this implies some sort of trauma with the inhalation of blood, such as a severe nose bleed or thoracic injury to lungs. Especially if NG was on blood thinning / anti clotting medications, as I suspect given heart conditions we're told she has. She'd bleed very easily.

But I also wonder if the splatter was post mortem, limiting the bleed event, and occurred as she was being removed from her house. Could / did (without notifying the public) LE determine if the NG porch blood splatter was post mortem?

*https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0379073804006310
IMO.

If the kidnappers came into the bedroom to take NG, perhaps she put up a fight. They hit her hard in the face and had to carry her out the front door. Would that kind of injury to the face and nose cause the kind of blood splatter we see on the front step?

 

[jtfolden]

Or he had a WiFi jammer in his backpack and was surprised that the camera was still being triggered (although doorbell cameras still work I *think* if wired into the home and he may not have known that). If I recall correctly, there were (early) reports of next door neighbors having WiFi issues around that time.

Or he cut electricity and it was a battery operated front door camera and he didn't anticipate it.

This is all my layperson's opinion and I admittedly don't know a lot about how these cameras work even though we have a metric ton of them in and around our house, both wired and unwired.

JMO.

Even if the WiFi wasn’t working (and it obviously was since the video footage we’ve seen was uploaded to Google servers) the doorbell would still have power. In fact the Nest can locally store up to an hour of footage if it looses connection to the internet.

It does appear to have been battery operated as well BUT we know another camera apparently detected motion several minutes after the doorbell had been disconnected so it doesn’t sound like wifi or power could have been cut.

 

[Pharmasgirl]

Good points.
I’m still thinking NG’s body was left somewhere about 5-10 miles away. Far enough to avoid easily finding it, close enough, perp doesn’t drive around much with a DB in car ( Sorry about the DB talk).

JMO

But still… WHAT was the motive

 

[Napoli]

Not disputing anything else in your post here, but it has been two weeks, not three! Still long enough, just mentioning for accuracy’s sake.

you are Correct...FOX keeps saying ENTERING third week. I had 3 weeks on the brain. 2 weeks today as of early this AM, completed.

 

[jtfolden]

If the kidnappers came into the bedroom to take NG, perhaps she put up a fight. They hit her hard in the face and had to carry her out the front door. Would that kind of injury to the face and nose cause the kind of blood splatter we see on the front step?

There is one spot on the porch, close to the door that looks very specifically like a fine spray from a cough or similar. It’s distinctive from the normal blood drops that continue down the path.

 

[tbgo]

Didn’t they just say cameras were also inside the home?

Vultures

I am sure that I am not the only one who has thought about this, but I wonder if LEO has been monitoring vulture behavior in the area. They are the largest scavenger bird in the area, and often gather to scavenge on dead carrion in area.

They talked about this early on. They were most assuredly looking for vultures circling a location.

 

[birdbox]

But lantana man may be a layperson as well. Not a home security expert. We are proving here on this forum that even though we surrounded by these gadgets we have no idea how they actually work and how they are powered.

Yes most of us might guess that if you cut the wifi and/or the electricity it will cut the cameras and the

In my opinion, if the front door was already unlocked, he could have just stepped inside and removed the doorbell while keeping completely out of shot. In fact, if they’d already gained entry, he wouldn’t have had to come up on the porch from the front at all. There’s also the fact that the other cameras should have detected motion earlier if that were the case.

I still believe he was working alone in getting her out at this point but we don’t have a lot to go on beyond that.

Do we know if back flood lights were broken during this kidnapping or before? Did anyone comment on that?

 

[Cassie P]

But we also aren't a criminal who contrived a home invasion and kidnapping (and likely a digitally anonymous ransom demand), and one who clearly had the foresight to dress adequately for the occasion. This almost certainly wasn't his first rodeo, and if it was he checked a lot of boxes.

JMO.

Yes but this is the same guy who was not prepared for a camera at the front door and had to pull up a plant to deal with it. So we know he did not do his homework.

 

[birdbox]

I wish I knew the floorplan of the house to observe where all the doors were located and why he even bothered with the front door. Was it the easiest way to get in or just the easiest way to get her out?

 

[Cassie P]

There is one spot on the porch, close to the door that looks very specifically like a fine spray from a cough or similar. It’s distinctive from the normal blood drops that continue down the path.

So she gets hit hard in the face in the bedroom. As she is being carried out she is choking a bit on the blood, sneezing, coughing, etc. Then regular bleeding?

 

[Cassie P]

Good question, maybe they have family in Tucson, don’t want to leave, take their chances, deal with a plea.
Leaving the country means leaving all behind, setting up a new life, maybe perps didn’t think that far ahead.

JMO

I would think that if you are going to commit a capital crime, an escape plan might be a good idea. And leaving the country and setting up a new life takes cash.