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Here is the video from NBC News pointing out what could be a ring on the glove at 0:45


Pointing out a ring now will make the perp ditch the ring. The flip side could be that a ring is identified by someone who knows the person who has that ring.
 
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Does it look like a horseshoe-shaped ring to anyone else?

ETA: JMO - MOO


This is a screenshot from the link (New clues in search for Nancy Guthrie):
That's certainly something to chew on.

I'm usually terrible at spotting stuff like that - and I never would've noticed it myself - but I can see that it appears in at least two frames. To me, that makes it more likely to be something real and not an compression or optical anomaly.

But again, I'm just hopeless at these things. Big if true, though.
 
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is it possible the FBI has connected transactions to the holster already and that’s why they are going around with drivers license photos to the gun shops to see if they bought a gun there?

MOO
 
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Pointing out a ring now will make the perp ditch the ring. The flip side could be that a ring is identified by someone who knows the person who has that ring.
Hypothetically, if there were video evidence that someone had that ring recently but now they don't, that wouldn't be a good look for them.
 
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LE cleared the family but (fact) they continued to visit AG's home, multiple times...
LE has not ever (fact) said definitively who dropped NG off the night of her disappearance...
LE flip-flops constantly (meaning the sheriff) on even the slightest details...entry/exit, etc...that's a fact, not JMO...
LE (MOO) and the FBI know exactly what's going on...or...IMO...they're both completely inept.

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Today they said AG did…
Which is different than previous…from a variety of sources.
Delete me if I’m down😢
 
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This is the only scenario that makes sense to me. He wasn't interested in ransom because he would have asked for that immediately, not 2 days later.
The first ransom demand wasn’t two days later though. It was the next day, on the Monday.

JMO
 
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But maybe when neighbor called police, it is the procedure out there to send out APS when chking on a senior citizen? 🤷‍♀️
That is what I read somewhere IMO
 
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is it possible the FBI has connected transactions to the holster already and that’s why they are going around with drivers license photos to the gun shops to see if they bought a gun there?

MOO
I really hope so.
 
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But maybe when neighbor called police, it is the procedure out there to send out APS when chking on a senior citizen? 🤷‍♀️
Yes, I get the feeling that APS leaving the card was just part of standard protocol because an elderly person was missing and endangered. One more member of the team checking in.
 
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is it possible the FBI has connected transactions to the holster already and that’s why they are going around with drivers license photos to the gun shops to see if they bought a gun there?

MOO
For 20+ people??? Doubtful
 
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That is what I read somewhere IMO
During an active missing person investigation? When they immediately called in homicide detectives? Not directing this towards you. My brain just won't make it make sense. JMO, MOO, etc.
 
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I don't believe the guy in the video would have been able to use the gun if his life depended on it given those clunky gloves. I really believe we're going to eventually learn that he was planted there as a distraction, that the video was always meant to be seen to distract us from the real perp. I'll try to make this the last time I state that case today. I just think we're thinking too much about him and should really be looking elsewhere.
I doubt lantana guy was just a distraction. But even if he was meant to be a distraction, if they can catch him, that is likely to lead them to his accomplices.

Here is the video from NBC News pointing out what could be a ring on the glove at 0:45

Regarding this possible ring, it would be great if the glove they found bore its imprint. That would help confirm that it really was lantana guy's glove instead of a random glove that's similar.

JMO
 
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The fear of getting caught makes people think irrationally and their behavior reflects that. If NG recognized his voice or look from a previous encounter, possibly as a lawn or pool maintenance guy for example, he would probably have panicked.

He either flees or takes the old lady with him until he can decide what to do with her.
I believe he left her somewhere in the desert, possibly tied up, and did so very quickly after the event. All my opinion, of course.

I think that’s why sg came out with that video saying “you’re not lost or alone.”

It’s possible IMO the FBI, just in case this was a burglary gone wrong, theorized the perpetrator knew NG and while in the house got recognized by NG or NG somehow got a look at his face but he could not take action to silence her there which would indicate weakness. So he takes her with him but he can’t let her go because she knows who he is and knows what he looks like. Eventually out of desperation he gets the nerve to silence her but it’s the inaction at the crime scene that led the FBI to conclude that he’s a weak criminal. The gun might have been just for intimidation.

MOO
 
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