AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

[tkcrockett]

Someone earlier today sleuthed the shoes. They concluded it was similar to a Carhartt moc. If you put that info in the search, I bet it will pop up

Replying to myself to show shoe info from earlier

 

[Gr3yW0lf78]

I’m not the person you responded to. What is criminal about it? Be specific.

I believe in the 2nd Amendment. But I also think that people buy guns in certain markets for specific reasons.

 

[MistyWaters]

That wasn’t a response to you.

In any case, there are at least three very reasonable theories at play here:
1) it was a different day and time
2) it was at a different time on the same day while casing the location
3) it was a second individual on the same day dressed in a similar manner

Source is this tweet.

https://twitter.com/x/status/2021285842044494279

“Additional recovered images from the same camera at Nancy Guthrie’s front door the morning of her disappearance, including two videos of the individual.”

 

[Gr3yW0lf78]

Why are they going around to gun stores if there are no ballistics?

 

[m00c0w]

Source is second tweet.

https://twitter.com/x/status/2021285842044494279

“Additional recovered images from the same camera at Nancy Guthrie’s front door the morning of her disappearance, including two videos of the individual.”

Yes… I provided you with this tweet... Please point out where it says anything was AI generated or modified. Backpacks removed.

 

[Gr3yW0lf78]

My theory is that they have recovered spent bullets from the Guthrie home.

 

[SMK777]

My theory is that they have recovered spent bullets from the Guthrie home.

That would be good evidence.
But why would that have occurred?

 

[MistyWaters]

Yes… I provided you with this tweet... Please point out where it says anything was AI generated or modified. Backpacks removed.

My apologies, I missed your post with this tweet. Then you are aware it’s the same individual. Why do you think he’s not wearing a backpack in the pic? Many aspects of this case are ambiguous. This does not require a heated dispute.

 

[shonyakay]

This should not be an obscure observation by true crime community members. This is a real national security threat.

If it is a real threat why couldn't it have been a real threat when it comes to what happened to Nancy? Considering she lives close to the border and her daughter is in the public eye interviewing many political figures.

Savannah has interviewed the last three Presidents of the United States during their respective presidential terms and has moderated several debates for presidential nominees.

She interviewed Donald Trump before he was president in 2011.
In 2016, she moderated Donald Trump’s town hall with former co-host Matt Lauer, and once again in 2020, after the current president refused a debate with the then-Democratic nominee Joe Biden.

 

[Gr3yW0lf78]

That would be good evidence.
But why would that have occurred?

First investigative step is to attempt to match against local same caliber incidents. Next is to roll the dice on a gun shop roundup.

 

[Wishbone]

I mean no harm. Nanos said this was a targeted kidnapping. The man's DNA is not in Codis. The FBI are looking for men who the gun shop owner said had unusual names.

And it is not a theory just pulled out of thin air.

“Over the past four years, thousands of Iranian national have been documented entering the United States illegally and countless more were likely in the known and unknown got-a-ways,” Scott wrote.

“Though we have not received any specific credible threats to share with you all currently, the threat of sleeper cells or sympathizers acting on their own, or at the behest of Iran has never been higher,” he added.

Scott asked border agents “to remain hyper vigilant and continue to take appropriate precautions, while maintaining a heightened level of situational awareness both on and off-duty.”

Nancy lives very close to the border.

Border agents warned about possible Iranian terrorist 'sleeper cells'
Border agents warned about possible terrorist ‘sleeper cells’ after Biden admin let in over 700 Iranian illegal migrants

Did the gun shop owner actually implicate being given an Iranian name? Could be any of many countries that have a grudge against the usa. JMOO

 

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Detectives seen inspecting camera at neighbor's home in Guthrie case: Entin | Jesse Weber Live​

 

[m00c0w]

My apologies, I missed your post with this tweet. Then you are aware it’s the same individual. Why do you think he’s not wearing a backpack in the pic? Many aspects of this case are ambiguous. This does not require a heated dispute.

Sorry if I seem heated… just want the actual facts of the situation to be understood. I’ll even go as far as to say that I don’t even care if someone believes it was a modified image… as long as they don’t try to pass that off as anything but speculation.

As far as why he doesn’t have the backpack - best guess would be he was looking around the property before the actual “go time”, and didn’t want to have on any more than necessary for that, especially the reflective backpack straps.

JMO

 

[Cristofori406]

If anyone remembers the guy interviewed at least twice, who some people in this thread found a tad suspicious, and who was calling himself a “neighbour” while trying to push the blame on TC, there appears to be someone in Tucson with the same first name as him and whose last name relates to Friday night’s SWAT events. Could be complete coincidence, of course, but if so, it’s an interesting one all the same.

JMO

The ring shape similarity is very strong, as are body build. I hope this has been investigated.

 

[Kapua]

They wouldn't. The FBI is throwing spaghetti at the wall.

I disagree. The FBI is following leads. Some don't pan out. If they didn't follow up on leads, people would complain that they hadn't explored every shred of potential evidence. Take the glove, for example. It wasn't found all that close to NG's house, but it did bear some physical resemblance to the glove Lantana Man was wearing. So they tested it, compared it, and it didn't match. If they hadn't, armchair detectives would be saying, "but what about the glove they found?" MOO

 

[LouisianaRiver]

Some things that are noticeable about the face of the suspect from a video still image:
- The distance between the eyes (intercanthal distance - ICD) appears slightly wider than normal. This distance between the inner 'corners' of the eye in an adult is normally 28-35mm. If wider, its called telecanthus or hypertelorism depending on the etiology. A well known example of this is Jackie Kennedy who had hypertelorism (photo attached).
- Their eyebrows don't end where we would expect them to, which is normally in line with the inner corner of the eyes (unless the eyebrow extends across to the other side, i.e. a unibrow). So either they have a unibrow or they are wearing another mask or beanie/swimming cap/skull cap under the outer balacava (looks like this one maybe from walmart A knitted mask 3 Hole Ski Mask Winter Warmer Full Face Balaclava Outdoor Sports Thermal Cap for Men Women - Walmart.com).
- They appear to have what is called a positive canthal tilt meaning that the outer corner of the eye is angled upward relative to the inner corner of the eye (which is hard to see for sure), but definitely above the center of the pupil. Reference image below.
- Lastly, they do not appear to have excess upper eyelid skin as we would see with an individual in the 40s, 50s, 60s, 70s, etc. This is evident by the lighter appearing crease that is visible above the lash line on the right side of the image (left side of the person's face). This indicates that they are likely younger (20s, 30's, maybe 40's). Men generally start to exhibit extra upper eyelid skin in their 40's and 50's that gets worse with age and will obscure the lash line. But here we can see the entire lash line all the way across the eyelid and some eyelid skin above it.

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I love reading posts like yours. Very informative! Thank you!

 

[EncyclopediaBrownJr]

Some things that are noticeable about the face of the suspect from a video still image:
- The distance between the eyes (intercanthal distance - ICD) appears slightly wider than normal. This distance between the inner 'corners' of the eye in an adult is normally 28-35mm. If wider, its called telecanthus or hypertelorism depending on the etiology. A well known example of this is Jackie Kennedy who had hypertelorism (photo attached).
- Their eyebrows don't end where we would expect them to, which is normally in line with the inner corner of the eyes (unless the eyebrow extends across to the other side, i.e. a unibrow). So either they have a unibrow or they are wearing another mask or beanie/swimming cap/skull cap under the outer balacava (looks like this one maybe from walmart A knitted mask 3 Hole Ski Mask Winter Warmer Full Face Balaclava Outdoor Sports Thermal Cap for Men Women - Walmart.com).
- They appear to have what is called a positive canthal tilt meaning that the outer corner of the eye is angled upward relative to the inner corner of the eye (which is hard to see for sure), but definitely above the center of the pupil. Reference image below.
- Lastly, they do not appear to have excess upper eyelid skin as we would see with an individual in the 40s, 50s, 60s, 70s, etc. This is evident by the lighter appearing crease that is visible above the lash line on the right side of the image (left side of the person's face). This indicates that they are likely younger (20s, 30's, maybe 40's). Men generally start to exhibit extra upper eyelid skin in their 40's and 50's that gets worse with age and will obscure the lash line. But here we can see the entire lash line all the way across the eyelid and some eyelid skin above it.

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Thanks for that. That’s very fascinating!

 

[Orion96007]

as per cnn, they’re doing just that. they used a term that’s basically “scraping the layers” to retrieve the data. imo they’re using specific language because google is inundated with lawsuits regarding customer privacy, so they don’t want to outright say that they have data that’s not kosher

but that’s speculation in my part (though partially emboldened by cnn’s current reporting with the google/nest rep)

I am a data forensic and recovery expert, and this is very common in my field. This is known as data scraping or data carving. There is specialized software which can look bit by bit (A BIT is a block of data on a hard drive or data storage) looking for "pieces" of data and putting it back together LOST or DELETED files from raw data. (An example of this is a product known as "TestDisk", and Law Enforcement/forensic analysts quite commonly use a software called "EnCase" or "Cellebrite". It is actually very rare to see data truly deleted unless someone really knows how to delete it. And even if you cannot reconstruct a file in it's entirety, you may be able to reconstruct a large viewable portion of it. Assuming there was EVER data on this device or "In the Cloud" (Which in itself is just a collection of storage drives and data storage), odds are they can recover something.

IMPO (In my professional opinion)

 

[buyerninety]

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Wednesday at 12:57 AM

Why are they going around to gun stores if there are no ballistics?

• Gr3yW0lf78

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I'd hazard a guess that law enforcement by now have
some video footage from other video cams in the area,
say they've got video frames of specific vehicles moving
within the timeframe the kidnapper would have been driving
(assuming perp had a vehicle), so of the 40 or so names
they have (of veh owners?), they are trying to develop a reason
to get a warrant to search their residences/vehicles. If the
person(s) purchased a gun at a gun shop, law enforcement
would try to check if the weapon is of a size and theorised
type that the perp had, also if the person(s) had purchased
a weapon sometime in the past from a gun shop, the FBI
could try to get the ATF to do one of their 'checks' at the
person(s) residence (whilst the person was out but easily
monstered dependants might be home) in order to look for
anything that might allow law enforcement to further get a
warrant to do an extensive search of the premises.

 

[dogmom805]

If anyone remembers the guy interviewed at least twice, who some people in this thread found a tad suspicious, and who was calling himself a “neighbour” while trying to push the blame on TC, there appears to be someone in Tucson with the same first name as him and whose last name relates to Friday night’s SWAT events. Could be complete coincidence, of course, but if so, it’s an interesting one all the same.

JMO

What are the names from the SWAT events? Could you please post a media link? I never saw any articles discussing the identity of who was detained the Culver's night.