AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

[maskedwoman]

I hope so. The sad part is day 20.
For someone 84, or for a child, it’s devastating. While it might be just routine for authorities, it is devastating to the victim.

Respectfully, I don't think it's routine for any of the people working that case. MOO

 

[shonyakay]

I’ve seen no evidence or seen comments that there has been trespassing in the home, the site of the crime scene, by anyone.

Although not tresspasing, someone left an APS card in the front door. No one stopped or saw this. Who is to say there weren't tresspassers if this can happen?

The front door might have been processed first for all we know.
LE may have placed the card on the door for the investigator.
Someone mentioned that LE let a delivery guy through the tape to deliver a package. People were not free to recklessly roam all over that crime scene. The house was taped off.

Totally disagree with this. They WERE allowed to walk up to the door and leave the amazon package and the card. The media was there, they saw it, it was after that, that some of the media decided to walk up there themselves and take photos/videos. The house was released to the family on the Monday after her disappearance, Feb 2nd.

Does it show the person actually walk up to the door? I wasn't aware of this. I just was suggesting what could be a possibility.

Nanos said the investigators processed the scene for 20 hours.

LE was informed that Nancy was missing at 12:03 p.m. Sunday afternoon.

Nanos said his team processed the scene for about 20 hours.

That would mean LE had finished processing that scene Monday morning around 8:00 a.m. - If they worked overnight.

https://twitter.com/x/status/2021592867773280397

I think the issue is that they released the scene too quickly. And that people were indeed allowed to recklessly roam to the front door. Amazon guy, APS lady... numerous media organizations got video and pics from the front door. Your original post replying to another poster, implied that they were not allowed to do that.

The house/scene was closed off 2 times after the amazon/aps/media and who knows who else was allowed on the property.

Just sharing the succession.
Nanos said the FBI wanted to go look at the scene after they processed it and they let them.

 

[Love Never Fails]

Respectfully, I disagree. The family has spoken when there was a calculated decision by the family and LE that it'd help the investigation. We are eager for insight, but the family doesn't need to perform in public for our entertainment. They owe nothing more to the public than cooperation with LE.

The family released video clips early on to reach the kidnapper, the ransom note writer, and their mother and to plead for help from the public. The clips accomplished LE and the family's goals. But at tremendous cost to family members. Every twitch or tear, or lack of it, was dissected as implicating or exculpating family members. Their words themselves were parsed for possible hidden meanings.

The family statements came at tremendous costs to family members. AG, who is not a celebrity like her sister or hardened military like her brother, who is coping with a horrific nightmare, and who is parenting a young child, the subject of intense speculation that she is a murderer or enabling a spouse who is. The family was harassed night and day to the point they were forced to leave the comfort of their own home at a time when they needed that familiar refuge

If appropriate, I am certain the family will speak out again. Not because we'd appreciate insights into family dynamics or to attest to their agony but because LE or the family believe conveying a tailored message publicly at that time will be helpful to the investigation.

Posting with respect to everyone here. MOO.

I actually suggested their responses were calculated or they wouldn’t have been scripted.

I am well aware that they must be suffering and I don’t want to see a performance by anyone. I wanted to see “real” not performing. And not because I need it. I thought their mom might see it.
And as I understood it, AG’s child is a teenager and not a young child. SG’s children are young. And just because CG was military at one time, it doesn’t make him hardened as you suggest.

I have seen no coverage of the family being harassed at all. I also saw they are renting a home together, away from the investigations into their mom’s home and AG’s home. It would have been a nightmare for them to stay home while LE is investigating inside.

So there is no disrespect on my part.

 

[Napoli]

Maybe I am missing something but what exactly is the issue then with an Amazon driver delivering a package to Nancy's door at 6 p.m. Monday evening?

The issue is that who would call APS when the eyes of LE/FBI /the world are on this home and situation and we know she's not there and the what's the point? Can't evaluate her. Mentally or physically. Why would ANYONE CALL THEM IN? jmo

 

[Bodhi]

Is this what you are referring to?

“The Pima County Department of Transportation, at the request of Catalina Foothills Estates Neighborhood Association residents, and in coordination with the Pima County Sheriff’s Department and Rural Metro Fire, is temporarily restricting the direction of travel on Camino Escalante to eliminate or reduce parking and traffic congestion related to the investigation of the disappearance of Nancy Guthrie, mother of NBC “Today Show” anchor Savannah Guthrie.”

Transportation

Transportation uses advanced technologies, data, and the hard work of employees to manage nearly 2,200 miles of roadways, bicycle, and pedestrian facilities, transit services, and infrastructure.

www.pima.gov

Some relief for the beseiged neighbors! The gauntlet of vehicles slows emergency response time to everyone living nearby. MSM is likely to be considerate. But there are at least some among the people with cell phone cameras who fancy themselves journalists who are intrusive, unsavory, noisy, and create sanitation problems by discarding food containers. Restricting the immediate area to one-way traffic and the media to foot access will reduce some safety concerns.

 

[SMK777]

While everyone is bashing the sheriff and hoping that the FBI plays a bigger role, I gotta wonder how much state law enforcement is involved?
To the best of my knowledge, each state has their own police and criminal investigation division. Generally, this is the chain of command if local resources are not enough. In Texas, we have the Texas rangers and DPS Troopers. I'm sure AZ has something similar. Keep in mind that this is a "state case" first and foremost.

If and when the perp is caught it will be the State of AZ vs ______.
It won't be Pima County vs ______.
It won't be the United States vs __________, unless federal charges are filed.

Just wondering how much state resources are involved?

What about the US Marshalls?

 

[Eli9]

https://twitter.com/x/status/2025261713613111328

But supposedly she was last seen at 9:45 that evening when her SIL dropped her off.

It looks like from @LRinCA post above the date and time is referred to as the date and time (and beyond) that LE want tips and videos

I can understand why they had to come out and address questions from the public because it was frankly confusing. I'm glad they are attempting to clear it up. MOO

 

[shonyakay]

The issue is that who would call APS when the eyes of LE/FBI /the world are on this home and situation and we know she's not there and the what's the point? Can't evaluate her. Mentally or physically. Why would ANYONE CALL THEM IN? jmo

You all are so critical of Nanos saying he is unreliable etc. what if he made a mistake when he said a neighbor is the one who called?

Others opined it could have been triggered by an automatic alert.

 

[Diddian]

Whether they released the scene too quickly is a separate issue.

LE had finished processing the scene about 9 to 10 hours before the Amazon delivery driver delivered the package to the door.

I still haven't seen proof of who exactly put the APS card on Nancy's front door or exactly when.

So, respectfully, it is just your opinion that they let people recklessly roam the crime scene.

Once the scene was processed and released it was basically a free for all. That is when BE recorded footage at Nancy's front door.

LE had released the scene early Monday, Feb 2 (assuming 20 hours of processing after noon or so Sunday, Feb 1) but the first of the ransom notes was received Monday afternoon, Feb 3. Since the ransom note (although delivered other than at NG’s home) may have been connected, it seems reasonable that LE would consider it evidence potentially related to the initial crime (breaking and entering and abduction, at least) and so would re-close the crime scene and revisit the site with that new mind frame. And things that may have escaped detection as relevant evidence with initial processing (the loose pile of Lantana at the front door of a meticulously-maintained home and landscape and evidence of a bit of the same tucked behind the camera mount, the camera atop the roof of the guest house, consideration of the possibility that NG’s car may have been used) would not have had to wait until Google managed to recover video previously thought lost and unrecoverable.

And given the ransom notes (indicating a perpetrator potentially attempting communication and manipulation), it completely defies reason that the Amazon envelope delivered after processing sat there inside the front entryway so long. What if the contents were sent by the perpetrator - possibly using NG’s account having been ordered when inside NG’s home? (Maybe LE did check the Amazon order and knew it was unrelated…but if not, why not open it?) And, given ransom demands indicating potential communication and manipulation by the perpetrator(s), why wouldn’t LE also be collecting and considering any mail delivered to NG’s mailbox (maybe they were…but seems likely not considering the house remained released.)

 

[Puzzles8]

Just sharing the succession.
Nanos said the FBI wanted to go look at the scene after they processed it and they let them.

I too think they released (and rereleased) the crime scene way too early. It is an issue of potential contamination of evidence.

Assuming the perp(s) are caught, this really leaves a mess for the Prosecutors of this case. The Defense will poke all sorts of holes into evidence contamination.

JMO

 

[jepop]

The family are victims. I'm not judging how they are behaving. I think it's sad and cruel if there are places that are commenting about waning "goodwill."

Totally. Cannot get my head around such an idea. Who has the right to judge the family based on some, moo, "off" and irrelevant perception that they should be pandering to keeping the goodwill of the public? At this time of horror and grief ? Or anytime. What's that about? Who judges their actions, knowing nothing about the hell they are going through or even what actions( away from the camera) they have taken? None of our business. Smh. Jmo

 

[SMK777]

On X there are pictures of Sheriff's Office putting up barricades on NG's street, but I am trying to find a source that's allowed to be posted here.

Found one: Guess it's not a big deal:


Barricades go up in Nancy Guthrie’s neighborhood to assist residents | The Disappearance of Nancy Guthrie | kvoa.com Barricades go up in Nancy Guthrie’s neighborhood to assist residents

 

[shonyakay]

LE had released the scene early Monday, Feb 2 (assuming 20 hours of processing after noon or so Sunday, Feb 1) but the first of the ransom notes was received Monday afternoon, Feb 3. Since the ransom note (although delivered other than at NG’s home) may have been connected, it seems reasonable that LE would consider it evidence potentially related to the initial crime (breaking and entering and abduction, at least) and so would re-close the crime scene and revisit the site with that new mind frame. And things that may have escaped detection as relevant evidence with initial processing (the loose pile of Lantana at the front door of a meticulously-maintained home and landscape and evidence of a bit of the same tucked behind the camera mount), the camera atop the roof of the guest house, consideration of the possibility that NG’s car may have been used) would not have had to wait until Google managed to recover video previously thought lost and unrecoverable.

And given the ransom notes (indicating a perpetrator potentially attempting communication and manipulation), it completely defies reason that the Amazon envelope delivered after processing sat there inside the front entryway so long. What if the contents were sent by the perpetrator - possibly using NG’s account having been ordered when inside NG’s home? (Maybe LE did check the Amazon order and knew it was unrelated…but if not, why not open it?) And, given ransom demands indicating potential communication and manipulation by the perpetrator(s), why wouldn’t LE also be collecting and considering any mail delivered to NG’s mailbox (maybe they were…but seems likely not considering the house remained released.)

Monday evening - according to this station that received the first note.

"KOLD in Arizona received an email Monday night that appeared to be one of the alleged ransom notes."

News station receives alleged ransom note tied to Nancy Guthrie’s disappearance

The Pima County Sheriff’s Department is investigating ransom notes connected to the case of Nancy Guthrie’s disappearance.

www.azfamily.com

 

[browneyes]

I’m sad there has been no resolution in this case thus far and my prayers are still with Nancy. I don’t need to see the family publicly grieving as I cannot imagine what good could possibly come from that and I will never judge their choices regarding the ransom. IMHO, there are way too many professional retired detectives discussing and dissecting this case at every turn on television and with hundreds of social media posts, proclaiming they are experts. They know nothing about the real investigation and I can’t watch the news coverage another moment. Whatever the outcome, NG’s family is broken forever, hundreds of people have worked tirelessly around the clock, and we do not know the details for certain…and we may never. I’m just going to extend my sympathy to NG’s family and be grateful that so many have worked tirelessly to find her and pray she is brought home to her family. I appreciate all the updates here. IMHO

 

[Diddian]

I too think they released (and rereleased) the crime scene way too early. It is an issue of potential contamination of evidence.

Assuming the perp(s) are caught, this really leaves a mess for the Prosecutors of this case. The Defense will poke all sorts of holes into evidence contamination.

JMO

IMO, as important as contamination of evidence is MISSING evidence because LE potentially forms a premature theory of the crime that may be wrong. So, the scene is processed and evidence gathered with that prejudice as guidance.

We don’t know who AB’s single “impeccable” source was for the theory of the case she posited early on. But if LE working this case, that might be an indicator that a premature theory guided early investigation and that associated “tunnel vision” resulted in inadequate detection and unfortunate loss of usable evidence. So that LE is now having to work harder in the search for evidence that will lead them to the perpetrator(s) that is not dependent upon any potentially contaminated evidence.

ETA: I am agreeing with you here about early release (and potentially inadequate scene processing) and contamination impacting prosecution, but expanding to say that it ALSO impacts the continuing investigation to solve the crime before there ever is a charge to be prosecuted.

 

[scandiamerican]

It’s been alledged since the beginning that she took an Uber to her daughter’s house so she would have been seen by the driver if that information is true. Edited to add around 5:30 Saturday evening.

You probably did discuss it several hours ago, but people are in different time zones, and this thread moves at a hundred pages per day sometimes! Please be aware that not everyone can keep up with all the reading and every single detail. Thank you.

I wasn’t being snippy; I still answered. I was letting you know a search in the thread might reveal more info.

 

[Katrinepa]

In other words...the case is going cold.

It takes time to go through all the evidence, especially as some has to be sent to out of state labs. The Sheriff sent some evidence to Florida, which he has a relationship with, but I feel Federal offices could have returned results faster. So much distraction as well, so maybe once the Press and ambulance chasers are out of the way, they can focus better. Only LE can decide when a case goes cold, and this one is not at all close to that. MOO

 

[thefragile7393]

You all are so critical of Nanos saying he is unreliable etc. what if he made a mistake when he said a neighbor is the one who called?

Others opined it could have been triggered by an automatic alert.

A lot of people area ciritcal of him if you have had to deal with his leadership locally IMO

 

[shonyakay]

I too think they released (and rereleased) the crime scene way too early. It is an issue of potential contamination of evidence.

Assuming the perp(s) are caught, this really leaves a mess for the Prosecutors of this case. The Defense will poke all sorts of holes into evidence contamination.

JMO

They had already collected all of the evidence before the scene was released on Monday morning February 2nd.

A crime scene is released when LE have secured all necessary information, notes, and evidence.

They didn't know a ransom note was going to be sent the evening of the date they released the crime scene.

I am critical of them for releasing the crime scene when they did - only because they didn't know if they were going to be successful in recovering the door nest cam footage. Keep in mind they didn't recover that footage until about 10 days later IIRC.

 

[shonyakay]

A lot of people area ciritcal of him if you have had to deal with his leadership locally IMO

Thanks for your perspective. I certainly will take into account the opinion of someone who actually lives there.