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I’m thinking that too, does it mean something is going to happen soon? What would they share this publicly?
Honestly, I believe media is sharing this because they were following up on yesterday's visit to the neighborhood. The neighbors likely told them.
 
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There's a 20 foot wide easement that runs behind Nancy's house. I would guess somewhere back there is the main connection that supplies internet cable/fiber to all the houses on her block and also behind her. The suspect could have disconnected it at the source if he knew what he was doing. That would explain the whole neighborhood going out more so than a consumer-grade signal jammer that you could get off Amazon or Temu or even make at home. But it doesn't quite make sense because at some point the doorbell camera had to reconnect to the Internet and send the footage to Google's Nest servers. That would suggest two suspects. The FBI should get the WiFi router logs from all the neighbors-- it would be easy to see if the signal was jammed from that.
 
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Wifi jammers have a fairly short range, especially the type you can carry around in your pocket. They won't knock out an entire neighborhood. They might not even knock out an entire home system, just the parts nearest the jammer. Think 50-100 feet or so, depending on model and power. That part could be important in this case.

They are also illegal for anyone to own, sell, or operate under federal law. Since they work by flooding the typical wifi bands of 2.4GHz/5GHz with noise, they can also be detected as they leave an unmistakable signature.

Think of it like a digital hurricane. Nothing else can be heard over it.

This is why EVERY home security system needs to include a hard wired ethernet component to complement wireless. Criminals are increasingly using jammers, which unfortunately aren't that hard to find if you are truly determined, regardless of the fact that they are strictly illegal.

A camera that is hardwired to the router and goes through a cable is unaffected by any jammer, and will record to the cloud, send notifications to your phone, and continue to operate normally even in the case of a jammer attack. Some even detect jammer attacks (because of a sudden flood of information on 2.4 or 5 GHz bands which can ONLY be a jammer).

Everyone should know this for their own security. ANY wireless camera is pretty easy to take offline by these criminals.

Now, if only the one camera on the neighbor's house closest to NG's house was affected that is solid evidence of a portable jammer. It could also explain why cameras reportedly went offline yet captured images later on.

As the perp walked around the house the radius of the jammer would move as well, causing its effects to travel. It would also suggest where the perp was and when, as most systems will tell you in the event log when exactly they went offline.

Moral of this story: install hard wired cameras. They are harder to install but jammer proof.

All of this means this is more likely to be a lone perp. Walkie talkie suggests a second person. Wifi jammer doesn't move the needle either way, but it doesn't support a second person the way coms would.
Having the cameras installed up high enough is the best defense against the wires being cut.
 
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Sorry had to check the source so now re-posting, this is from a reporter from Newsnation.


"From the Phoenix PD on my inquiry:

Hi Laura,

Below is the response to your request referencing location: grand canal trail 28th street

Response:

Around 7:40 a.m., officers responded to the area of 2100 North 27th Place regarding an unknown trouble. Details on the call indicated that an adult female was on the nearby canal bank and was unresponsive. When officers arrived, they located the woman, who was ultimately pronounced deceased on scene. Detectives have responded to assume the death investigation. Additional details related to this incident remain part of the ongoing investigation."
 
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🌟Apologies if this has already been posted.
It downplays the WIFI jammer theory:


Nancy Guthrie disappearance: FBI questions neighbors about tech lead as search hits day 34

 
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How close to Nancy's home?
Assuming that these are the neighbours with the dog who have been letting BE park in their driveway, I'm pretty sure they're on the same street, but not sure how far down
 
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Um, an AC unit is right under it.

I am not asking you to buy it.

I am of the opinion that the electricity COULD have been disrupted.
Look at the people in the photo. Look at the A/C unit. Look at the height of the circuit breaker. Standing on the A/C unit would still not bring perp to circuit breaker, imo
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Honestly, I believe media is sharing this because they were following up on yesterday's visit to the neighborhood. The neighbors likely told them.
This is from yesterday when the FBI were questioning neighbors. This is where the antagonist lives. She would not allow them into her home, so they had to go around to talk to her over a wall in her backyard, I believe. This home is listed as vacant and/ or a short term rental, is lists the owners name, but I won’t include that (male), a name I’m not familiar with.
 
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🌟Apologies if this has already been posted.
It downplays the WIFI jammer theory:


Nancy Guthrie disappearance: FBI questions neighbors about tech lead as search hits day 34

"If they were using Wi-Fi jammers, then I would expect that we would not be able to see any video from the front door cameras," Wright told Fox News Digital.

This Google article goes counter to that, assuming NG had one of the mentioned models (don't think we know that for sure)
 
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Having the cameras installed up high enough is the best defense against the wires being cut.

Yup. It's all about making it hard for the criminal.

I have some wireless ones still for extra range, but the wired are the backbone.
 
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Can le tell if the wifi was turned off by the homeowner and then turned back on later as opposed to something outside the house interfering with it?
 
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Look at the people in the photo. Look at the A/C unit. Look at the height of the circuit breaker. Standing on the A/C unit would still not bring perp to circuit breaker, imo
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Could the patio chair help reach it if placed on the AC unit? I appreciate you sharing this picture 🙌 ❤️
 
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Yup. It's all about making it hard for the criminal.

I have some wireless ones still for extra range, but the wired are the backbone.
I saw a security expert suggest people place cameras opposite each other in key places so if a suspicious person spots your camera and turns away they are on camera. Good idea.
 
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Can le tell if the wifi was turned off by the homeowner and then turned back on later as opposed to something outside the house interfering with it?
Probably not without getting access to their devices, so if a neighbour was lying about it for some reason, they'd need a warrant first (and something to justify getting a warrant).
 
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I’m thinking that too, does it mean something is going to happen soon? What would they share this publicly?
I don't think it necessarily means that. But I do think Investigators are interested why that single camera was offline and what the significance of it is.

They checked with multiple neighbors to see if they had similar issues to likely try to rule out some widespread issue.

It could end up being just a coincidence and not significant but I do believe investigators were interested enough to circle back.

As I'm sure they had information of that particular camera not recording fairly early on. JMO
 
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You guys…I’ve somehow managed to get my husband now interested and involved with this case. He’s a retired police officer (over 20 years experience). So instead of me being fixated on this case, we both are. Cheers!
 
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Look at the people in the photo. Look at the A/C unit. Look at the height of the circuit breaker. Standing on the A/C unit would still not bring perp to circuit breaker, imo
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Ummm angles and stuff.

That control panel isn't as high as you think it is.

In Arizona, outdoor electrical control panels and service disconnects must be installed with the top operating handle no more than 6 feet 7 inches (79 inches) above the final grade or working platform, per NEC standards
 
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