AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

[missy1974]

I’m a little behind and not sure if it’s been discussed as to why NG’s car was towed last night.
I’m thinking LE saw evidence from a license plate reader or security camera not at the home that it was being driven that night. Why and by whom? Those are the questions.

JMO but I really think that it should have been taken on the first search. Or at least kept in a secured crime scene area. But it wasn't. Last night was the 3rd search and seemed to be even more extensive.

 

[moonbeams]

If your home is paid for, you have little to no debt, it is worth 1.2 million. You have $500k in CDs, you have a life insurance policy for $1 million, you are worth over 2 million.

do we know she has a million dollar life insurance policy?

 

[Starkville]

If she’s not returned, my hope would be that FBI would find the ransomers and prosecute/ recover the funds. Given that the Guthries likely have much more info than we do..if they believe the ransomers have her, I stand behind the decision to pay.

MOO, the ransom scenario is bogus, and no money/bitcoin has changed hands. I don’t think it can be seized the way cash or ETF can be. That’s why criminals love it.

 

[Laura Avery]

"the had a leg yo the back door and was already waiting"

You lost me here

They had a key to the back door. Sorry Mild visual impairment, at nighttime, im usually touch typing!

 

[diggndeeperstill]

In the very very beginning Sheriff said Nancy needed meds in 24 hours to survive. I would like to know how he got that info? Was it relayed by family that way at initial 911 call? Did he surmise that? Why was it said like that? Is there a reason it was said like that? Did they already know about ransom note when this was said?

WATCH: Sheriff holds news conference on search for Savannah Guthrie's missing mother

Nancy Guthrie must be found soon because she could die without her medication, Pima County Sheriff Chris Nanos said Tuesday, urging whoever has her to free her.

www.pbs.org

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[CrimeDawg123]

https://twitter.com/x/status/2020188989937053719

Would collecting the elusive white van be breaking news? LOL no sheriff interviews.

 

[birdbox]

Also another random thought. Elderly often have paper thin skin and bleed very easily due to blood thinners, etc. So, even a small wound from a scuffle could have caused the bleed. She could have grabbed a vase and tried to smash it on them and cut herself. Who knows. There were some flower looking debris on the front door stooping near the blood.

 

[MarciB]

Latest from Vinnie Politan of Court TV. posted approx 3 hours ago. Per Vinnie, a new roof camera discovered at Nancy's home: WTH? Link here: Vinnie Politan Court TV

 

[Bernie54]

MOO, the ransom scenario is bogus, and no money/bitcoin has changed hands. I don’t think it can be seized the way cash or ETF can be. That’s why criminals love it.

Right, we have no idea whether it’s legit… the reply was with regard to HYPOTHETICAL question originally posed by AJones.

 

[Starkville]

Has anyone any info on if SIL has access to a white van via their band/Work or AG's Jewellery business? First thing I thought of.

Also see a lot being said about a band mate of SIL having multiple prior convictions has this been discussed here yet?

Since he hasn’t been named as a suspect, I don’t think we can discuss this person. However it is public knowledge that he is a member of the band Early Black, along with Tomasso Cioni.

 

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[diggndeeperstill]

I think the best course here would be to assume AJ is telling the truth and that she will return later to confirm, or if she misspoke, to clarify.

So assuming it is true, what does the retention of a white van by LE, with our understanding that a neighbor of NG reported a suspicious white van in the neighborhood, suggest?

To me, not a lot. Nothing. I’d have been hearing of white van in news and hidden it if it were mine and I was responsible. I don’t think it’s involved.

 

[moonbeams]

Thank you. I was thinking the same. Anytime we go out knowing we’ll be home after dark, we always leave our front door lights on. Arizona is beautiful and the dark skies with all of the stars is breathtaking, but I don’t think I’d ever be able to live there because of the restrictions on outdoor lighting.

our outside lighting is either on "timers" on at sunset of at dawn or with a photocell.

also if we are out and arrive home... the home app turns on specific lights inside when our phone is close.

even with our dark sky rules.... we are allowed outside lighting....

 

[SRWCF]

Latest from Vinnie Politan of Court TV. posted approx 3 hours ago. Per Vinnie, a new roof camera discovered at Nancy's home: WTH? Link here: Vinnie Politan Court TV

Apparently it was a neighbor that instructed LE to go back and check the roof!!! I mean . . . it was never checked???

ETA link to CNN where this neighbor was interviewed: Live updates: FBI probing new message in Nancy Guthrie disappearance | CNN https://share.google/S69lqnqgUGBFBUXGV

 

[HoveringWombats]

Can a person even move 7 milion around in less than a week with how much control the government now has on our banking? Heck I think if you play around with a measly 10 thousand you have to fill out forms. Maybe wealthy people are looked at differently and can move large amounts faster than some of us "little guys"? I just couldn't figure out how a kidnapper thinks you can just go into a bank and get 7 million or move 7 million into bitcoin in a couple days. Can it be done if they wanted it done?

Honestly I think the play here, if they wanted to make the payment, would be to work with one of the companies that helps ransomware victims. They should be set up to transfer bitcoin relatively quickly without having to deal with the family literally buying bitcoin and transferring it themselves.

 

[Synergizer Bunny]

dbm.

 

[Chainspell]

Doing some catchup this morning and looping back to discussion about the use of forms for sending the ransom notes/unable to send photos, KOLD said they received their notes from a 'send in a tip' form on their website. KGUN and TMZ have similar forms, so I assume it was sent the same way. Only TMZ is able to attach a photo/video, but the sender may not have wanted to risk it even if they wiped EXIF (metadata).

On that note, I was surprised how small TMZ's upload limit was. 25mbs is remarkably small, and they only allow one file. Think 15-20 seconds of video in 1080p. However, that would be enough to provide proof of life, imo....

 

[diggndeeperstill]

Also another random thought. Elderly often have paper thin skin and bleed very easily due to blood thinners, etc. So, even a small wound from a scuffle could have caused the bleed. She could have grabbed a vase and tried to smash it on them and cut herself. Who knows. There were some flower looking debris on the front door stooping near the blood.

On the things people like to think are flowers- if they were truly flowers, don’t you think LE would have taken them into evidence? Although as I say that the Amazon package was there.

I think as others have said it’s sagebrush.

Sagebrush - Wikipedia

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[SRWCF]

our outside lighting is either on "timers" on at sunset of at dawn or with a photocell.

also if we are out and arrive home... the home app turns on specific lights inside when our phone is close.

even with our dark sky rules.... we are allowed outside lighting....

We have a dark sky rule in my subdivision, as well. The only lights that can stay on all night are porch lights. Any other flood lights, etc. are supposed to be off by 10pm.

 

[su5ie]

May have been mentioned already but did anyone notice SG's brother in the plea to alleged kidnappers is wearing a shirt with similar design on it as the scarf actress is wearing from SOTL movie ? View attachment 642400

Brilliant observation