AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

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MOO, I don’t think this was revealed by LE. It was discussed, counting pills, see if bottles missing, but nothing confirmed.

Then my husband doesn't predict a positive outcome here.
 
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I appreciate reading everyone's thoughts on this case.

Something I'm finding strange and just thought of.
One would think that most elderly people take some type of medicine or supplement. The ransom note gave a deadline several days away from her actual kidnapping. Do you believe they hadn't made plans to make sure these meds/supplements were available for her while being held hostage? It's said that her meds were still there. Was it the rx bottles from the pharmacy or one of those daily medicine organizers or both?

I don't believe they intended to keep her until Friday. I believe they thought a ransom would be paid immediately. It also brings me to wonder why make this into worldwide news fairly early with sending ransom notes to news organizations, rather than directly to law enforcement or the family?

Another question - do we know if AG or any close family members dealt with Bitcoin?

I don't believe this was random, but planned in advance. MOO
IMO it would be worldwide news anyway. And ransome wasn’t asked for until several days had passed in the first place, with two deadlines given.
 
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see Tricia's post. With regards to me....I mean I can speak about nursing and psychiatric issues, meds, stuff like that. I'm not anything with true crime though, like close to the family or anything. I'm thinking it may be different if you're a verified reporter or author or something. I know you're not picking on me, it's ok :)
Welcome, Aphrodite. gtsy here
 
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I personally hate the night sky ordinance in the city part because it makes driving difficult-and I'm only close to middle age. We have such a large population of people here who will run across the street, sometimes at the last minute and if they are wearing dark clothes its very difficult to see them.
I have never heard of such of thing till now. I cannot imagine not being allowed to leave my porch lights on or motion flood lights. I want my house lit up at night so it doesn't look too inviting for robbers. I frequently leave on a lamp too.
 
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Feb 7, 2026
''Many have picked up on the Silence of the Lambs reference and commented on it online.
“Savannah Guthrie quotes a line from Silence of the Lambs during her plea for her mother’s release,” one person commented. Another added, “In an astonishing coincidence, after hearing Savannah Guthrie's televised plea to the abductor(s) for her mom Nancy’s safe return, a partial quote of which was directly from the movie Silence Of The Lambs, I discovered through Grok that the recent abduction occurred EXACTLY 35 years to the day as the movie’s limited premiere release in Century City on Feb 1, 1991.”
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''There is no indication that Savannah was deliberately quoting Silence of the Lambs. In all likelihood, it was a coincidental matching of phrases. An account sharing the video also remarked ‘Merely coincidental.’''
Feb 6, 2026
Megyn Kelly is joined by Ashleigh Banfield, host of Drop Dead Serious, to discuss new details about Savannah Guthrie’s emotional video appeal about her missing mother, its similarities to the movie "Silence of the Lambs," why the messaging from the family appears carefully coordinated with law enforcement, what it suggests about the case, and more.
Oh wow, the 35 year anniversary is correct
What is going on....!!

Link
 
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do we know she has a million dollar life insurance policy?
Oh no. I'm not an investigator. Someone asked why did anyone think she would have millions of dollars and i was basing my financial projector off of her news reported 1 million dollar home value. Many people carry insurance values to match their asset value. Just basing on what many people commonly do that I know who have homes valued in the $1 million range. Pretty standard.
 
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Im mentioning it from a very technical standpoint because if the attacker knew the pacemakers had a range of contact with her phone, they may have wanted the phone near her while they were moving about the home, possibly placing it in her car as a last thing to do before loading her up. Another technical detail I'll mention since I am going down the rabbit hole is pacemakers ping every second basically. The readon is so at the Dr's office they can connect up to install updates. Pacemakers are actually easy to hack and we studied them in my PhD program in regards to cyber security. I won't go in more detail but as part of a cyber security investigation id want to know every detail. And also if she steps within 7 meters of any hospital or dr office it would pick up her device mac address. So, if it were LE, id get her device mac address and let hospitals and dr offices know to see if they have equipment to pick up her device if it came in range. Far fetched. Yes. But believe it or not, its an actual topic that ive studied in a cyber war class.

What info/access to a patient is required to hack their pacemaker?
 
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We've now seen SG and her brother make recorded pleas for their mother's safe return. Does anyone wonder why AG hasn't issued her own direct plea for NG's safe return? She read a short "poem" of sorts during the first recorded plea during which she looked nervous and uncomfortable. I would think that all three of NG's children would be eager for their mother's safe return, so it's puzzling to me that AG hasn't spoken out on her own. JMO

I can see why someone would think that for sure, but I can also see that it's as likely that she is media shy and uncomfortable in those types of settings, particularly under these circumstances. Lots of folks have scrutinized and commented on her breathing and/or her blinking in the first video, but I attribute it more to "fish out of water" behavior myself.

JMO.
 
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He may have walked her in the home through the garage, but left out the front door.
i keep meaning to ask this but get caught up with reading more posts:

so the blood at the front door... people saying they think it may have come from her when taken out the front door.... but has anyone said was the front door and security door UNLOCKED!? that's FOUR locks that would have needed to be locked behind them. i don't see that being the case. IMO

the more likely scenario is she was taken out the back (which is probably the way they got in? again IMO
 
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I have never heard of such of thing till now. I cannot imagine not being allowed to leave my porch lights on or motion flood lights. I want my house lit up at night so it doesn't look too inviting for robbers. I frequently leave on a lamp too.
I think it means limited street lights. Not sure what restrictions there are about porch or garage lights. A lot of these houses are set back from the street. maybe someone can clarify
 
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Hey does anyone have any thoughts on any steps the Pima County Sheriff Chris Nanos could have done early on or differently?
For starters, he should not be saying things like “She’s present. She’s alive” or “She’s alive”. I’m still stunned that he made that claim in two separate statements.
 
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Paying without proof of life and proof it’s actually the person responsible is setting a dangerous precedent. But, darn, when it’s your mom and not taking the chance to pay/ do everything possible? What an incredibly heart wrenching dilemma. JMO
💯!!!!!
 
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Of course you are. The question is whether you are allowed to express them in this thread. I really, really hope the answer is that you (and everyone else talking about DJT) is NOT allowed to do that here.
i feel there may be a fine line.... mentioning what he mentioned on the case, i think, would be allowed as it's reported in MSM. all the extra stuff i would think would not be? MOO
 
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Our HOA tried to enforce this in our neighborhood. Unfortunately, I think that is because some people stay up all night with lights on their lanai or pool area that shine into a home's bedroom that is directly behind them. The rule is for the few who are inconsiderate not the majority. We actually have trail lights in the back and dusk-to-dawn lights on our garage. No houses behind us, fortunately.

That being said, there is so much distance in NG's neighborhood that I can't see how anyone's floodlights would disturb another home?

Why not just have motion detection lights that come on and record when there is motion around the home?

JMO.
I believe the night lights ordinance in the Tucson locations has to do with respecting the several observatories in the area. It was mentioned in the beginning of the thread. Hence no street lights either.
 
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I wonder if her medication is missing? Did the kidnappers take her meds?
No IIRC, and it was stated that she had life threatening medications that she needed.
 
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Oh no. I'm not an investigator. Someone asked why did anyone think she would have millions of dollars and i was basing my financial projector off of her news reported 1 million dollar home value. Many people carry insurance values to match their asset value. Just basing on what many people commonly do that I know who have homes valued in the $1 million range. Pretty standard.
I do think the prudent financial decision when you are that age is to have amassed enough wealth that you are NOT paying for life insurance. I’d vote it’s minimal. But I’d also vote she has wealth.
 
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I fear looking at WS a year from now and finding this in the Cold Cases forum.
This whole thing doesn't make any sense.
I hope I'm totally wrong and she's found safe within a few days.
 
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What info/access to a patient is required to hack their pacemaker?
The actual pacemaker? Or the monitoring setup? Pacemaker would not be hackable.
System only possible imo. System just unplug it or disconnect in some way. Would have to have close access though unless you work for the medical monitoring company.
 
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The POTUS has shed more info than LE so far. Of course, he has loose lips while LE is tightlipped as they should be if an arrest is imminent. It is interesting he says this is not a Search operation but a Solution.

(Not sure if TMZ can be linked but these are true statements from Trump on Air Force One)

<modsnip> He has a history of making things up or misremembering information he’s been given, which sadly could undermine the case or maybe even reveal details the FBI wants kept confidential. I wish he’d refrain from commenting, as I don’t want his remarks complicating an already messy situation.
 
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