AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

[Ladyotm]

Dbm

 

[SRWCF]

Our HOA tried to enforce this in our neighborhood. Unfortunately, I think that is because some people stay up all night with lights on their lanai or pool area that shine into a home's bedroom that is directly behind them. The rule is for the few who are inconsiderate not the majority. We actually have trail lights in the back and dusk-to-dawn lights on our garage. No houses behind us, fortunately.

That being said, there is so much distance in NG's neighborhood that I can't see how anyone's floodlights would disturb another home?

Why not just have motion detection lights that come on and record when there is motion around the home?

JMO.

The way our HOA describes the dark sky ordinance is that the low light allows animals to travel to and fro more freely in their natural habitat. We have rabbits, deer, some elk, coyotes, owls, etc. The name "dark sky" has nothing to do with being able to stargaze or not annoying your neighbors. At least that is how or HOA explains it to us!

 

[Bushnell]

Looking at the neighborhood on goo maps, the homes are somewhat hidden from the streets, all have curved driveways, so I'm assuming that even if homeowners have cameras, they probably can't even pick up cars driving by.

 

[MassGuy]

would like to hear the sheriff say she is alive. That seems odd as he is always careful to just say she will be found.

Liz Kreutz
Reporting from Pima County, Arizona

Pima County Sheriff Chris Nanos believes Nancy Guthrie is still alive as the search for her has dragged into its sixth day.

"What I believe is that Nancy was removed from her home against her will, and that we need to find her. That’s what I believe. She’s still alive," he said this afternoon. "I believe that I have no choice until something shows me, a piece of physical evidence shows me that that’s different."

He noted that authorities have completed their talks, at least for now, with staff employed at the house.

"I think there was a landscape crew, a pool maintenance crew, naturally the Uber driver, maybe a housekeeper. I think they have pretty much completed that. We’ve talked. They’ve all been very cooperative. They provided certain information that was helpful to us," he said.

Officials say they're investigating 'new message' regarding Nancy Guthrie

Live updates as investigators continue to search for Nancy Guthrie and her family appeal for her safe return.

www.nbcnews.com

 

[birdbox]

Anyone think that this whole thing is too much work for people to make money? If they are such criminal masterminds couldn't they have found another rich person (maybe even a non celeb without the connections SG has)who has a beloved family member that wouldn't be such hard work like NG? I am starting to think like some of you that the ransom note and all that "noise" is just to try to keep out of jail as long as possibly and they know they are cooked.

Exactly.

 

[AZLocal]

I've never lived in a place with an HOA, but know people who do. They can be helpful, but sometimes not. It's one thing to make sure your yard looks nice or you aren't parking cars all over the street, but these days people want security and safety

The HOA here is concerned about upkeep and appearances only. The dues are minimal and the HOA mostly only sends letters about taking down campaign signs after an election and making sure you hide your garbage cans behind a wall.

 

[EJB123456]

Well, we are using an old photo that was taken ~four days ago. It was taken after LE released the home as a crime scene back to the family. (This earlier photo does not show a package on the porch.) As to why police didn’t take them into evidence… we don’t know they didn’t. Are the still on the porch? I’m guessing the uprooted plants were at least photographed, as the blood droplets were tested and did receive attention from investigators.

I beg to respectfully differ that they are sagebrush. Other Websleuths have identified the plant as lantana. There are live lantana plants just a couple of feet away from the doormat, edging the walkway. The plant pieces on the doormat are dried up, but you can still see the flowers on the stems.

And yet it shows the business card in the window. Have we already discussed if that was there from the beginning? It was there when Brian Entin posted his first door/blood video. I don’t recall (not that I’ve read every page) it being discussed here. Shut me down if it has (and provide a synopsis haha).

 

[MarciB]

The HOA here is concerned about upkeep and appearances only. The dues are minimal and the HOA mostly only sends letters about taking down campaign signs after an election and making sure you hide your garbage cans behind a wall.

good to know

 

[CSIDreamer]

He has to. It keeps the public engaged and looking for her. I think we all know that the possibility of her being alive is almost impossible at this point, but we have to hang on to the tiniest possibility that she is still with us. I can't fathom the depth of pain that SG must be experiencing.

And that leads me to ponder whether that is exactly what this is all about - creating pain and punishing SG? Did she become the object of some demented mind that wants to punish her for "rejecting" them by not responding to fan letters or something? There are some very unbalanced minds out there. Hopefully LE is looking at this angle.

Amateur opinion and speculation

I've been thinking about this SG angle all morning. Whoever this is isn’t targeting Savannah technically. This whole family is being literally tortured. It may well lead to "Savannah is loaded" but they're all paying a very traumatic price. Has anyone wondered if someone is out there with a grudge against all of them?

JMO

 

[diggndeeperstill]

would like to hear the sheriff say she is alive. That seems odd as he is always careful to just say she will be found.

I don’t believe he has. I’m waiting for a link. His last interview he was asked that and he didn’t say it outright in fact he said he fears she is dead, but until we know operate as if she is alive.

Arizona sheriff says Nancy Guthrie presumed to 'still be out there' alive

Investigators in Arizona presume the kidnapped elderly mother of popular U.S. television news host Savannah Guthrie is "still out there" and alive four days after she was abducted from her home, though no suspect has been identified, authorities said on Thursday.

www.reuters.com

Asked whether he feared she was dead, Nanos acknowledged he did, but added, "We operate from a position that until we know, she's out there, she's alive, and we're going to continue thinking that way until we find her."

 

[AZLocal]

The way our HOA describes the dark sky ordinance is that the low light allows animals to travel to and fro more freely in their natural habitat. We have rabbits, deer, some elk, coyotes, owls, etc. The name "dark sky" has nothing to do with being able to stargaze or not annoying your neighbors. At least that is how or HOA explains it to us!

This is not the case here. There are astronomical observatories that bring in millions and have made huge discoveries. The restrictions around outdoor lighting are Pima County ordnances, not from the HOA.

 

[Starkville]

I’m sorry to have to ask and but I never heard that from him and feel like I’ve followed closely. Can you help with a link?

I think this is an approved source: NBC Los Angeles 'TODAY' co-anchor Savannah Guthrie and family make tearful plea for mother’s return

 

[Sessiebo]

I've been thinking about this SG angle all morning. Whoever this is isn’t targeting Savannah technically. This whole family is being literally tortured. It may well lead to "Savannah is loaded" but they're all paying a very traumatic price. Has anyone wondered if someone is out there with a grudge against all of them?

JMO

If it's about SG the rest is just collateral, imo

 

[ttjo]

https://twitter.com/x/status/2020174121708159305

 

[turaj]

I don’t believe he has. I’m waiting for a link. His last interview he was asked that and he didn’t say it outright in fact he said he fears she is dead, but until we know operate as if she is alive.

Arizona sheriff says Nancy Guthrie presumed to 'still be out there' alive

Investigators in Arizona presume the kidnapped elderly mother of popular U.S. television news host Savannah Guthrie is "still out there" and alive four days after she was abducted from her home, though no suspect has been identified, authorities said on Thursday.

www.reuters.com

Asked whether he feared she was dead, Nanos acknowledged he did, but added, "We operate from a position that until we know, she's out there, she's alive, and we're going to continue thinking that way until we find her."

yes that is what he said and that is far f rom making a statement that he knows she is alive.

 

[SRWCF]

This is not the case here. There are astronomical observatories that bring in millions and have made huge discoveries. The restrictions around outdoor lighting are Pima County ordnances, not from the HOA.

Makes total sense! I am just in Idaho in the foothills!

 

[turaj]

This is not the case here. There are astronomical observatories that bring in millions and have made huge discoveries. The restrictions around outdoor lighting are Pima County ordnances, not from the HOA.

question: are you saying you live in the neighborhood and there is a HOA. I got the vibe that this is not an official association but group of neighbors. that organize things but not the kind you pay dues etc. Correct me if that is wrong. As mentioned it is Pima county with the rules about lighting.

 

[MassGuy]

https://twitter.com/x/status/2020205198866837889

 

[SRWCF]

https://twitter.com/x/status/2020205198866837889

Excellent! But where is that? Does not look like a convenience store. Sinks look like restaurant kitchen ones, but that does not look like a food establishment.

 

[Chainspell]

https://twitter.com/x/status/2020205198866837889

Michael was quick to clarify on twitter this isn't the POI in the photo, just an investigator.