Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

[justwannahelp]

Just my opinion, but maybe LE got some evidence results back from labs and now are curious to see whose dna is primary on the steering wheel. I've always thought it odd NG's cell phone was in the car, when it seems most people would have their phone in the house with them. Just my random thoughts/guesses, fwiw.

I did not know her cell was in her car. Interesting

And walking back the in law “fall guy” very very far out grasping at straws theory since they were JUST in AG’s house for 3 hrs taking photos….

It was unlikely to begin with but REALLY unlikely now considering they just spent 3 MORE hours there

 

[TheDinks]

I imagine that the NG was upset about something and took an Uber to AG's house to confront SIL. SIL reacted violently and NG is harmed. SIL then takes NG's phone and deactivates her cameras, returns to NG's house alone and makes it look like a crime scene by putting drops of her blood outside the front door (maybe he couldn't get into the house?) to make it look like she was kidnapped, and smashes the floodlight. Then he leaves her phone in her car? I'm not sure where the phone was found. Then the ransom notes some time later. AG looked a certain way in the latest plea at a certain moment like she was appealing to him.

Wow! just wow!

 

[EncyclopediaBrownJr]

From what I gather, the blood drops didn't go far from the front door so whoever abducted her had their car right near the entrance. But why disconnect the doorbell camera if you knew the subscription wasn't active? Maybe they knew it wasn't active and disabled it just as a precautionary measure just in case? Maybe they didn't know it was inactive. Either way they aren't parking the car up front initially. I think that car was parked nearby and then moved up after the doorbell camera was disabled and he or they was ready to move Nancy.

The time spent in the home could be attributed to a stranger coming into the home, not knowing where Nancy sleeps, not entirely sure that there aren't guests in the home and it is a decent sized home, so they have to go through each room and clear it in the dark, find Nancy, subdue Nancy. Probably a blindfold, gag and handcuff. If the guy is by himself, he's probably going to handcuff her to an object so that he can disable the front camera, get to the parked car and move it closer to the front door. If it's a multiple team than this whole scenario plays faster so 41 minutes seems too long to be in the house.

If it's somebody that knows her, almost the same process plays out but they probably know where her bedroom is and know that she's the only one there and doesn't have to clear this home. If the goal was ransom, he's not going to talk to the victim. That may give him away. Does that person rummage through the home looking for documents or valuables? If the motive is a will or ransom, I don't see that as likely. Could be wrong.JMO.

I'm starting to lean towards this being someone that's a stranger and alone. He targeted Nancy for a ransom. This guy probably surveilled her home for awhile and had no idea that her camera subscription was inactive. Considering he sent a letter to TMZ, he's probably on the younger side and is very tech savvy. He knows to leave his phone at home when doing surveillance and when carrying out this abduction. He knows how to get the ransom money undetected via bitcoin. JMO.

This person will be caught. You just can't do something like this without leaving bread crumbs that come back to you. Not in this day and age. There's cameras everywhere. Just because you leave your phone at home and disable a home camera doesn't mean the cameras at the traffic lights or convenience stores don't catch ya!

 

[cathathorse]

This is all so sad, heavy, and dark. I don't think I've ever felt as affected by a crime story as with this one. There's so much to it-- a horrible crime against a defenseless elderly woman, a daughter who we only ever see upbeat now brought to her knees and tortured and humiliated publicly (the same daughter who has only ever spoken of how much she loves her mom and how she sees her sister as her twin...)... and now it looks like it is possible that that same sister may have been involved in the worst horror imaginable and then let her sister be tortured in public. And the child of AG and the SIL? He looks to be about the same age as SG's kids... what will happen to him if his parents were involved with this? Does SG take him? Heartbreak and horror in every direction for this poor family.

 

[gitana1]

I wonder if they had to get a warrant to do whatever it is they are doing tonight - in the garage.

Of course.

 

[nightowl2728]

My parents (around 84) are often out after 10. They go to parties, weddings, balls, Broadway plays, swim meets or even some baseball games- all which keep them out after 10. My mom was at a Mardi Gras parade tonight and didn't get back until after 10. They are in their 80s, not on their death beds! They would probably be offended by everyone saying it's weird for 80 year olds to stay out until 945 for dinner and games I will ask my mom tomorrow.

Well that's lovely for them! Truly

Do they have mobility issues or a pacemaker? I think Nancy unfortunately had limitations similar to many older people :/

I think what's probably most relevant here is what Nancy's normal schedule was.

 

[mpnola]

Well that's lovely for them! Truly

Do they have mobility issues or a pacemaker? I think Nancy unfortunately had limitations similar to many older people :/

I think what's probably most relevant here is what Nancy's normal schedule was.

Would that matter to sit at a dinner table with a board game?

 

[LRinCA]

Just my opinion, but maybe LE got some evidence results back from labs and now are curious to see whose dna is primary on the steering wheel. I've always thought it odd NG's cell phone was in the car, when it seems most people would have their phone in the house with them. Just my random thoughts/guesses, fwiw.

I wonder if she had a landline and used it as her main line. My mother-in-law hated using her cell phone and most of the time the battery was drained and/or she couldn't figure out how to turn it on. My mom was more or less the same way and depended on her landline.

 

[justwannahelp]

It’s obviously not a perfect science, of course- I just thought of it bc someone at work basically called me an old person for using two spaces. They made it seem like it was a stylistic choice when it was really just muscle memory…

I put two spaces. I can’t help it. It was how I was taught/muscle memory, and my starting to get old eyes find sentences easier to read with two spaces in between.

But you’re right, the number of spaces could shed light on age bracket….

 

[pharmad]

I've been lurking and watching this unfold, but something caught my eye I haven't seen anyone mention yet. (If I'm doing this wrong I do apologize)

While watching the Fox True Crime Live Stream Feb 6th @ 1:21:32 mark, I noticed a decrepit looking, but may be fairly stable treehouse perfectly hidden and could give a good visual over NG home. Again I'm not sure if I'm doing this right, but I just snipped from the Live Stream. Seems interesting, if it was someone they would have a view and survey over time on NG.

Also, if this has been mentioned already, sorry about that.. hard to keep up I didn't notice if so.

**EDIT** Only reason I think the treehouse could be a lookout, was the mention of the broken floodlight which is across where the treehouse is. The mention of the broken floodlight, why break it, unless they knew the backyard well enough there were cameras. They could also used that same door to get in, reason they were scouring the garage, It looked like a basic knob door, which could be shimmied. Could've watched her turn out the lights, waited a bit for the best time, since they would have a perfect vantage from there to see the streets, break the floodlight, shimmy garage door.

 

[nightowl2728]

Would that matter to sit at a dinner table with a board game?

I don't think so, but four hours is a long time for that, again based on my family- theirs could be different. But it would matter getting settled into the house at night comfortably, yes I think so.

Also, just to more info since we're really getting into this question! The average person in their mid eighties goes to bed between 7 and 8pm, according to studies online. So I don't think it's out of the ordinary for many to think it's odd she was out until almost 10pm for a casual dinner. It sounds like your parents are an exception which is truly lovely!

 

[bmacmillan1]

Going backwards a bit because I have just been lurking here and not posting, the weirdest thing to me from the beginning of this, as just a person with a close family and older grandparents around Nancy's age, is that she was brought back to the house, apparently, at almost 10pm (after arriving over four hours earlier at 5:30ish). I know people have different schedules, etc. but MOST people that age are in their home, if not in bed, by that time. It's just a biological thing for most older people. [Edit for details: They like to get into their Pjs, wash up, take out dentures ha, and sit in front of the Tv for a bit to wind down before going to bed].

We have my grandparents over for dinner often and it's usually a 5:30pm ish pickup, with a 7-8pm at the LATEST return home, we go in and make sure the temperature in the home is good if it's winter, that the lights are on, etc. No we don't have to do that/they would be fine on their own, but I think most people can attest to similar with older relatives, especially if they're not the best on their feet. Late at night they are usually tired.

So that stood out to me from the JUMP as a detail for a casual (four hour) family dinner down the road. The late return from dinner at the sister's... If she was dropped off at almost 10pm for most people that's not bed until 10:30. Which again is pretty late for an older person especially if she goes to church in the morning.

It stood out for me straight away, too - elderly people usually don't want to be out late at night and that's why you'd rather do a lunch than a dinner if they were invited. Unless she is hooked on mahyong and didn't worry about lateness.

 

[submarine7]

His background was posted early on, when some were curious about AG and her spouse. We didn't know much about them and their social media was still open.

His name sure sounds Italian to me

 

[Friday Fan]

My parents (around 84) are often out after 10. They go to parties, weddings, balls, Broadway plays, swim meets or even some baseball games- all which keep them out after 10. My mom was at a Mardi Gras parade tonight and didn't get back until after 10. They are in their 80s, not on their death beds! They would probably be offended by everyone saying it's weird for 80 year olds to stay out until 945 for dinner and games I will ask my mom tomorrow.

I'm 69 and it's all day and night for me. I think only physical limitations will slow my down. (Bad eye site or something like that)
I'm up all hours. And if I'm hungry and no food, I hop in my car and head toward the nearest 24 hour food. (Selection not as good as pre-Covid, but I'm certainly able to find a few 24 hour joints). Now hubby, he's in bed at 10:30, but that was his bedtime 40 years ago too.

 

[Vegasgrl]

I've been lurking and watching this unfold, but something caught my eye I haven't seen anyone mention yet. (If I'm doing this wrong I do apologize)

While watching the Fox True Crime Live Stream Feb 6th @ 1:21:32 mark, I noticed a decrepit looking, but may be fairly stable treehouse perfectly hidden and could give a good visual over NG home. Again I'm not sure if I'm doing this right, but I just snipped from the Live Stream. Seems interesting, if it was someone they would have a view and survey over time on NG.

Also, if this has been mentioned already, sorry about that.. hard to keep up I didn't notice if so.

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Some have mentioned this structure, but this is the best photo I've seen.

 

[whitelilac]

I've been lurking and watching this unfold, but something caught my eye I haven't seen anyone mention yet. (If I'm doing this wrong I do apologize)

While watching the Fox True Crime Live Stream Feb 6th @ 1:21:32 mark, I noticed a decrepit looking, but may be fairly stable treehouse perfectly hidden and could give a good visual over NG home. Again I'm not sure if I'm doing this right, but I just snipped from the Live Stream. Seems interesting, if it was someone they would have a view and survey over time on NG.

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This has actually been talked about here. People have mentioned a chicken or rabbit coop, a well enclosure, pool equipment, and a tree house (my guess). Home was bought in 1975, could have been for the kids.

 

[submarine7]

I have thought the same thing about Nancy. She’s 84. If she did survive this, what would the rest of her life look like for her and for her children? It would just be the most bizarre ending to their lives- even if they all try to return to normal. There can be no more normal after this, regardless of the outcome. So very sad. For all of them.

People can be amazingly resilient. People thrive after trauma every day. It doesn't have to define them. MOO

 

[Vaderman]

It been a week since Nancy Guthrie was last seen. She joined family for dinner before returning home at night, not to be heard from since.

Investigators are still trying to make sense of what happened to the mother of Today show host Savannah Guthrie.

Here's what we know, six days into the investigation into her disappearance.

https://www.npr.org/2026/02/07/nx-s1-5705280/nancy-guthrie-case-latest

One week.

 

[Kemug]

My parents (around 84) are often out after 10. They go to parties, weddings, balls, Broadway plays, swim meets or even some baseball games- all which keep them out after 10. My mom was at a Mardi Gras parade tonight and didn't get back until after 10. They are in their 80s, not on their death beds! They would probably be offended by everyone saying it's w⁶5eird for 80 year olds to stay out until 945 for dinner and g3ames I will ask my mom tomorrow.

.Maybe Nancy didn't usually stay out so late, but it was her birthday celebration after all.

 

[nightowl2728]

.Maybe Nancy didn't usually stay out so late, but it was her birthday celebration after all.

Oh was it? That definitely changes things. I didn't hear that reported.