Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

[Irmese]

Does Luminol react to other things, like perhaps pet urine?

Bleach. It reacts with iron.

 

[SMK777]

I thought about that and my only problem with it is, how do you find someone that quickly that is not just capable of perpetuating the ransom thing, but is willing to break the law and receive serious jail time if they are found out.

I guess only if he has been involved in prior crimes with you (drugs?) and you have something on him; he owes you, and you promise him the "ransom" money?

 

[Moonstrawbs]

Ok. I think it’s been well established that many of you think NG should have been picked up for dinner. Why are we being so critical of these family victims? They have an unspeakable tragedy on their hands.

Amateur opinion and speculation only

I don't even know why this keeps coming up. It's been eye-opening in a way to see how many treat the elderly as totally lacking independence and autonomy. Jmo.

 

[Emerald1328]

I wonder if the police/FBI left trail cams hidden in the shrubs, and that's why they returned today. AFAIK, trail cams operate on batteries and are not hooked up to electricity or internet; they have a memory card inside which can be removed and the footage viewed.

To see if anyone returned to the scene.

A better use of their time and resources would just be to ask the media that has been camped out at the house 24/7 the past week.

 

[stmichael]

I don't. I Imagine that the Uber was NG's choice and is further proof of her independence. We oldies deeply appreciate assistance when we truly need it, but do not want to be burdensome. It MAY have been a routine that NG would take an Uber to AG's and AG or TC would take her home after dark.

Exactly. For we know she may have insisted after they told them they were busy cooking/prepping and had some wine already etc.


My neighbor is 90 and defiantly independent. The kids put Ring cams on their house to spy on him. He still lies to them about things in fear they'll put him in a home.

 

[statt#1]

Our vacation/lake house had a septic tank...that's too big an opening for septic. And the tanks are usually close to the house with the field drains going outward, downhill and away.

My opinion... that's a septic tank cover, they're likely looking for anything that may have been flushed.

In this vid, he's "sticking" the bottom of the tank, feeling for something, not sure what. Anything heavy or large couldn't be flushed too easily, if at all.

Cops seen searching septic tank behind Nancy Guthrie’s Arizona house in latest twist

The 84-year-old was last seen over a week ago after she was dropped off at her Tucson, Arizona, home by her daughter and son-in-law.

nypost.com

 

[dogmom805]

1. I absolutely have to agree with your first point.

2. As to your second point:

The 2 may be connected: SIL having some kind of friend or partner continue the ransom ruse which began at the start of an accidental killing ( perhaps during a threat from NG regarding some kind of fraud she was reporting to authorities?) as a coverup story and misdirection.

Bingo. I think the 2 are connected.

 

[turaj]

One thing I got from Brian Entin video a couple of nights ago.....the fact that they are not using lights to do night search. He had a guest on that I think is retired from LE and he mentioned that the Sheriff would not go against the light ordinance but he could. Seems like nightime is being wasted for any searching.

 

[TIGER0822]

Why if it was the sil - would they risk abducting her from her bed? Seems bizarre .

 

[KBlackRabbit]

Why is everyone so hung up on money and financial worth of the family? It really sounds mercenary. IMO, it's been a week and only last night did they say "we will pay". They know no more now than theu did when she disappeared and no money has changed hands and 530 tomorrow is a deadline. Playing games as to if the ransom demand is real or not, is risky business. They waited too long. IMO, this woman will not be recovered alive. Too much BS..red herrings like the AB story about TC, and wayyyy too much time wasted. Why would you barter for your mother's life? JMO.. I am getting disgusted with the obsession as to who is worth what and who pays. You can always make more money but you cant make more time. MOO

Because the ransom note author demanded $6 million or else.

 

[pixiepixel]

Bleach. It reacts with iron.

Yikes. I deep clean my garage and scrub the floors with Comet + bleach every few years. That could really light up a luminol screening!

 

[louvillian08]

Metal detectors looking for Apple watch or pacemaker? JMO

The Apple Watch was found in the home.

“To authenticate something, they have to show that they know something everybody else wouldn’t,” he said. “And as far as we can tell, there has been no report out on the placement of that watch, where it was found. And so it would be something that would be held close to the vest.”

TMZ’s Levin: Nancy Guthrie ransom note had two deadlines

TMZ founder Harvey Levin on Thursday offered new details about the purported ransom note his outlet received in connection with the disappearance of 84-year-old Nancy Guthrie from her Tucson, Ariz.…

thehill.com

 

[smileyface516]

I don't even know why this keeps coming up. It's been eye-opening in a way to see how many treat the elderly as totally lacking independence and autonomy. Jmo.

I don't understand why this Uber trip keeps coming up either. If it really ends up being AG and/or TC who did this terrible thing, NG was safer with the Uber driver than she was the for the remainder of the evening.

 

[aafromaa]

It didn't dawn on me that just because my area has a BOP facility nearby not everyone else does lol

I wouldn’t have known it worked like that until the FBI arrested our local sheriff on federal charges and i was surprised that he was held in the county jail of a neighboring county - guess they didn’t want to put him in his own county jail. Turns out the feds pay the county jails to house these defendants and if they are convicted at trial then they go to a federal prison because after conviction it doesn’t matter how far away they have to go but before and during trial they like to keep them close for going to and from court and for meeting with their lawyers and such.

 

[Trino]

Bingo. I think the 2 are connected.

An accidental killing seems very possible.

 

[MCB1151]

Does Luminol react to other things, like perhaps pet urine?

Luminol *can* react to some other things and urine & saliva are on that list, though it's not a common reaction & usually not as bold as its reaction with blood. It can react to cleaners as well. Basically - Luminol reacts with enzymes & metals & different materials/matter can glow, but it all often looks different. Bleach will often BLAST a bright glow, blood is usually just a solid decent glow. Often the patterns of the Luminol reaction are what give a good clue about what happened (ex: giant "puddle" shape or a floor covered in "wiping" patterns). It's not fool proof by any means. It's just another tool that can be used upon suspicion.

 

[tkcrockett]

They need to document that luminol testing showed no indication of blood. If they don't, the veracity, competence, and thoroughness of investigators can be questioned in cross-examination. Documenting the lack of results is necessary.

thank you so much

 

[LooksSusToMe]

Looks like there’s sheriffs at a neighbor’s of Annie’s house, but no one is home.

 

[UK Girl]

Is there a lot of coverage on this case in your country?

Not sure if he is in England but we have a lot of coverage in the Mail for sure.

 

[stmichael]

Our vacation/lake house had a septic tank...that's too big an opening for septic. And the tanks are usually close to the house with the field drains going outward, downhill and away.

My septic tank cover is 150 feet away from the house. Not every scenario is the same, many factors vary. Though it is unusual by me to have large openings (they are usually 10-12 inch access panels here by code) apparently in other places it's different. Generalizations don't work well for this.