Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

[JaimeInLA]

I mean this as a serious question because I'm very confused about all the comments that suggest the kidnapping and/or ransom demands are just a ruse to cover for the murder. I don't really understand what that means. How would further entangling yourself with a crime be helpful? It changes nothing.

It’s misdirection. Say, for instance, this was a familial murder. The criminal is thinking “I’ll make it look like she was kidnapped by a stranger and held for ransom, so the police don’t look at me.”

And it worked, for a little while. But it won’t work in the long run.

 

[Springplease]

They might be playing very very sick games.

So are we sure it was the septic tank of the neighbor LE were checking?
Because if so, this is getting really crazy.

ETA: I looked at google Maps satellite view and indeed think that the septic tank(s) LE opened are those next to the neighbour house and not next to NG house.
I'm on my phone and am struggling to add links and screenshots but someone above already did.

Yes it’s here

 

[Cindizzi]

https://twitter.com/x/status/2020622606194643157

 

[Charlot123]

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Why isn’t Savannah wearing her wedding band in yesterday’s short video?

Does she always wear it? Are wedding bands important in the XXI century?

(Perhaps: hands got puffy due to all stressors and it did not get on her hand?)

 

[Fraize]

just google [senator mark kelly savannah guthrie] you'll find bunches of articles

I don't mean to be snarky, I'm just in a weird mood! LMGTFY!

 

[mikeshanty]

A veteran Navy Seal Commander who was involved in many, many kidnap situations (Iraq etc) was a 'best guest" on today's STS Live and he states he personally believes NO way is this a genuine kidnap for ransom.

He claims it appears to be Extortion. The way it's played out just doesn't fit with a genuine kidnap for ransom situation.

Do you have a link?

 

[Friday Fan]

With all due respect...if it isnt a kidnaping, where the hell is she? A kidnaping is the unlawful taking or confinement of a person. They havent found her in the house or in the neighborhood. Unless they think she wandered off....I just don't understand why people still think she wasnt kidnapped?

Who wrote the extortion email? How do we know these are the abductors?


Anyone can write an email asking for money. That doesn't mean they are kidnappers. They could be scammers and totally unrelated to this.

 

[simlyme]

"It was the type of Saturday evening that Nancy Guthrie treasured: dinner and game night at the home of her eldest daughter and son-in-law.

They lived near each other, in the unincorporated desert communities north of Tucson, Ariz., and Ms. Guthrie arrived by Uber just after 5:30 p.m. on Jan. 31. The family spent about four hours together before Ms. Guthrie was driven home by her son-in-law, who watched to ensure she made it safely inside, the police said later.

At 9:48 p.m., her garage door opened, according to a timeline from the authorities. Two minutes later, it closed. That glimpse of Ms. Guthrie heading inside was the last time anyone in her family saw or heard from her."

7 Days, No Suspects: The Disappearance of Nancy Guthrie

The mother of the “Today” show host Savannah Guthrie has not been heard from since an evening of dinner and games with family members.

www.nytimes.com

The only fact is and verifiable by law inforcement is she got an Uber ride .

 

[louvillian08]

I mean this as a serious question because I'm very confused about all the comments that suggest the kidnapping and/or ransom demands are just a ruse to cover for the murder. I don't really understand what that means. How would further entangling yourself with a crime be helpful? It changes nothing.

At the same time, if the motive IS the ransom money why did it take so long for the first note to come in? She went missing late Saturday night/sunday morning and the first note was received at 6:40pm on Monday. The FBI was involved by that time, the story had absolutely blown up, etc. In general, that’s ~36 additional hours for you to be caught before you’ve even asked for the money. Wouldn’t you want this wrapped up as soon as possible?

 

[elliefant]

Yikes. A neighbor's home.

Remembering "Silence of the Lambs" (but memory is vague). I remember Hannibal Lecter advised Jodie Foster's character (Clarice) that a perpetrator wants he frequently sees. And Clarice traveled to a neighborhood where a teen or young adult woman had disappeared some time before the current missing woman and she spoke with a member of that vicim's family and toured the house. And she noticed that that victim had been a seamstress who had patterns and a sewing machine in her room. Then, she noticed the window of that victim's room was overlooked by a window of a neighbor's home. Clarice knocked on that neighbor's door and discovered a man living there in his deceased mother's home and she started asking him questions and began also noticing oddities which eventually led her to the basement where the killer had the current missing woman in a deep hole.

But that is just a story. It could be that a perpetrator is not a neighbor, but a trespasser who uses a neighbor's home and property as he pleases.

ETA: The message expressed by SG in the first video ("Ask her, you'll see) was from SOTL. Is this perpetrator playing sick games?

An episode of Forensic Files was on tv today. It was about Eudora “Doe” Roberts. Her neighbour abducted and killed her, then sent ransom calls/notes.

 

[Wsimm]

A veteran Navy Seal Commander who was involved in many, many kidnap situations (Iraq etc) was a 'best guest" on today's STS Live and he states he personally believes NO way is this a genuine kidnap for ransom.

He claims it appears to be Extortion. The way it's played out just doesn't fit with a genuine kidnap for ransom situation.

I saw him too. I believe he also said something along the lines that you never pay a ransom without proof of life.

 

[missy1974]

If the FBI Director is going there tomorrow, I think that will be to announce an arrest with all that media.

it was made clear by the FBI spokesperson at the last new conference that this was a planned trip before NG went missing.

So I wouldn't read anything into the timing. JMO

 

[doublestop]

MOO but I would imagine there’s a small group of regular, virtual attendees. The video platform has a live chat function so it does seem like they encourage a digital “social aspect.” Maybe she usually texts with someone during the service? There’s a ton of reasons why her absence could have been noticed.

When my mom's church was virtual during covid, on youtube as I recall, people chatted in the comments before and after the service. That might have been a regular thing for Mrs. Guthrie too.

 

[citizen_sleuth]

I wonder if the media has received any additional messages from the alleged kidnapper today or if the family will release another statement ahead of tomorrow’s deadline, especially in light of the LE activity at AG’s home yesterday.

 

[shonyakay]

https://twitter.com/x/status/2020622606194643157

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Why Nancy's? Did they mean Annie's? Or do they mean security just for the residence itself?

 

[Beans]

Yes it’s here

I saw a great except from a map showing the utilities layout of the properties on that street, including NG's, but I can't find the original on the Pima website so I haven't shared it yet. It's there somewhere, if anyone else fancies trying to find it too. Their records system is a spaghetti junction of different portals.

 

[Springplease]

I’m pretty sure at this point because I’ve been trying to place it all day and couldn’t until now. This isn’t a great pic (source Fox News drone) but it’s the hvac and wall that didn’t match with NG house. Other source is Google Maps. NG’s property is immaculate. The other is messy.

 

[EmilNomel]

I can't imagine going thru this kind of week without my husband at my side. Haven't heard whether Camron is married (?) but I'm surprised SG's husband isnt there. Kids, school, work, I know, but come on - this is a traumatic life event for SG.

 

[Napoli]

This has probably been posted, but thread is moving so fast, I'm posting just in case, bbm:

The authors of Nancy Guthrie’s ransom note may have exposed themselves as operating outside the US because of one tiny detail in their note – a specification that their multi-million dollar demands be paid out in US dollars, law enforcement experts think.

“Why would you use that if you’re a domestic person? That points to somebody who might be potentially outside the country, which also lends the potential for this being a scam,” former FBI agent Michael Harrigan told The Post.

“If you’re domestic, why would you ever put ‘USD?’ You put six million,” he added.

Savannah Guthrie missing mom live updates: The tiny detail in the Nancy Guthrie ransom note that makes FBI experts think the writers aren’t even in US

Follow the Post’s live updates for the latest news on Savannah Guthrie’s missing mom and the investigation to find Nancy Guthrie, who was last seen on January 31.

nypost.com

Whilst I can fathom an accidental death such as this and a coverup I wonder how these messages were so quickly constructed and routed via ip addresses and how these get sent when the family is under scrutiny.
That bit seems unmanageable without foresight .

I’m inclined to believe this is a true kidnapping by an acquaintance , or stranger who realised Nancys daughter had money

Exactly! This is what I have been trying to convey for hours!

 

[mikeshanty]

If the FBI Director is going there tomorrow, I think that will be to announce an arrest with all that media.

Is that typical for someone of that executive-level seniority to be involved in the case? Unless there is something affecting national security or something much bigger we are not aware of, with respect it seems unusual for executive intervention for what may simply be kidnapping or unaliving by someone known by NG. I may be completely wrong as I do not live in the USA, and understand it may simply be because of the media attention.