AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

[stmichael]

Quick one
Was the random note received before or after the public found out? I'm not sure it's mentioned, just deadlines.

IIRC after.

And as one former FBI agent said it was very atypical conduct in that it was sent to the media (TMZ, TV stations) rather than directly to the family. He theorized that they want the attention to play out in the public (for revenge, a targeted grudge against SG whatever)

IF the ransom is legit and IF the goal is money, than this is not the way to do it. You don't want that kind of heat on you, you don't want to be in possession of the kidnapped for a week+. You want direct quick communication to the family, provide proof of life, and quietly get your money and move on. Many ransoms don't make the media at all. Companies provide and pay out ransom insurance (NBC might even do it).

Another take on "Why SG Should Not Pay Ransom Yet" by former FB agent:

Why Savannah Guthrie shouldn’t pay mom Nancy’s ransom yet, according to FBI agent — even as time ticks down

“Proof of life is everything,” Michael Harrigan, who oversaw the FBI National Academy, told The Post.

nypost.com

 

[simlyme]

Is there a link for that?

just google [senator mark kelly savannah guthrie] you'll find bunches of articles

 

[Fargo]

I don’t mean this in the wrong way, but who was looking for Nancy being on a livestream church service. I understand that friends might look for each other in person, maybe to sit together or go to coffee after. Is it the same for virtual church?

And I wonder why Nancy wasn’t going to church in person. The fellowship and the feeling of togethership (especially during hymns) is something that many people especially enjoy. Did she miss it?

Was she avoiding anyone?

"Ms. Guthrie, whom friends have described as a devoted Christian, was expected at church that Sunday morning. But when someone at St. Andrew’s Presbyterian did not see her in the pews, they called her family to check in.

Alerted, Ms. Guthrie’s family rushed to her home, the authorities said. They found her phone, wallet, hearing aid, daily medication and car. But they did not find her. They called 911."

7 Days, No Suspects: The Disappearance of Nancy Guthrie

The mother of the “Today” show host Savannah Guthrie has not been heard from since an evening of dinner and games with family members.

www.nytimes.com

 

[shonyakay]

Looks like the kid is 12or 13ish from the pic I saw. Way too young to be involved in anything like this.

Please don't describe this kid. Lots of posts have been deleted for failure to follow the rules. Including mine.

 

[shadowsc]

I don’t mean this in the wrong way, but who was looking for Nancy being on a livestream church service. I understand that friends might look for each other in person, maybe to sit together or go to coffee after. Is it the same for virtual church?

And I wonder why Nancy wasn’t going to church in person. The fellowship and the feeling of togethership (especially during hymns) is something that many people especially enjoy. Did she miss it?

Was she avoiding anyone?

The church told Brian Entin's producers that she had started attending virtually during COVID and never returned. Most things went remote and if Nancy's mobility was limited, that was likely just easier for her. There may have been a livestream, but it wasn't like a "Zoom" call where you have all the participants shown in squares. It seems unlikely that someone would have noticed she wasn't present online, unless someone texted her. But that's not what the sheriff had originally said, so who knows.

 

[Missyrocks5]

If the FBI Director is going there tomorrow, I think that will be to announce an arrest with all that media.

 

[TheDinks]

A veteran Navy Seal Commander who was involved in many, many kidnap situations (Iraq etc) was a 'best guest" on today's STS Live and he states he personally believes NO way is this a genuine kidnap for ransom.

He claims it appears to be Extortion. The way it's played out just doesn't fit with a genuine kidnap for ransom situation.

 

[EJB123456]

Tricia has posted recently reminding all of us that, when posting a still from news video, the link to the video itself should be posted as well as the time stamp of the still taken from the video. Would very much appreciate that information.

https://twitter.com/x/status/2020565694635561312

If not allowed you’ll have to delete because I need to step away

 

[JaimeInLA]

I mean this as a serious question because I'm very confused about all the comments that suggest the kidnapping and/or ransom demands are just a ruse to cover for the murder. I don't really understand what that means. How would further entangling yourself with a crime be helpful? It changes nothing.

It’s misdirection. Say, for instance, this was a familial murder. The criminal is thinking “I’ll make it look like she was kidnapped by a stranger and held for ransom, so the police don’t look at me.”

And it worked, for a little while. But it won’t work in the long run.

 

[Springplease]

They might be playing very very sick games.

So are we sure it was the septic tank of the neighbor LE were checking?
Because if so, this is getting really crazy.

ETA: I looked at google Maps satellite view and indeed think that the septic tank(s) LE opened are those next to the neighbour house and not next to NG house.
I'm on my phone and am struggling to add links and screenshots but someone above already did.

Yes it’s here

 

[Cindizzi]

https://twitter.com/x/status/2020622606194643157

 

[Charlot123]

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Why isn’t Savannah wearing her wedding band in yesterday’s short video?

Does she always wear it? Are wedding bands important in the XXI century?

(Perhaps: hands got puffy due to all stressors and it did not get on her hand?)

 

[Fraize]

just google [senator mark kelly savannah guthrie] you'll find bunches of articles

I don't mean to be snarky, I'm just in a weird mood! LMGTFY!

 

[mikeshanty]

A veteran Navy Seal Commander who was involved in many, many kidnap situations (Iraq etc) was a 'best guest" on today's STS Live and he states he personally believes NO way is this a genuine kidnap for ransom.

He claims it appears to be Extortion. The way it's played out just doesn't fit with a genuine kidnap for ransom situation.

Do you have a link?

 

[Friday Fan]

With all due respect...if it isnt a kidnaping, where the hell is she? A kidnaping is the unlawful taking or confinement of a person. They havent found her in the house or in the neighborhood. Unless they think she wandered off....I just don't understand why people still think she wasnt kidnapped?

Who wrote the extortion email? How do we know these are the abductors?


Anyone can write an email asking for money. That doesn't mean they are kidnappers. They could be scammers and totally unrelated to this.

 

[simlyme]

"It was the type of Saturday evening that Nancy Guthrie treasured: dinner and game night at the home of her eldest daughter and son-in-law.

They lived near each other, in the unincorporated desert communities north of Tucson, Ariz., and Ms. Guthrie arrived by Uber just after 5:30 p.m. on Jan. 31. The family spent about four hours together before Ms. Guthrie was driven home by her son-in-law, who watched to ensure she made it safely inside, the police said later.

At 9:48 p.m., her garage door opened, according to a timeline from the authorities. Two minutes later, it closed. That glimpse of Ms. Guthrie heading inside was the last time anyone in her family saw or heard from her."

7 Days, No Suspects: The Disappearance of Nancy Guthrie

The mother of the “Today” show host Savannah Guthrie has not been heard from since an evening of dinner and games with family members.

www.nytimes.com

The only fact is and verifiable by law inforcement is she got an Uber ride .

 

[louvillian08]

I mean this as a serious question because I'm very confused about all the comments that suggest the kidnapping and/or ransom demands are just a ruse to cover for the murder. I don't really understand what that means. How would further entangling yourself with a crime be helpful? It changes nothing.

At the same time, if the motive IS the ransom money why did it take so long for the first note to come in? She went missing late Saturday night/sunday morning and the first note was received at 6:40pm on Monday. The FBI was involved by that time, the story had absolutely blown up, etc. In general, that’s ~36 additional hours for you to be caught before you’ve even asked for the money. Wouldn’t you want this wrapped up as soon as possible?

 

[elliefant]

Yikes. A neighbor's home.

Remembering "Silence of the Lambs" (but memory is vague). I remember Hannibal Lecter advised Jodie Foster's character (Clarice) that a perpetrator wants he frequently sees. And Clarice traveled to a neighborhood where a teen or young adult woman had disappeared some time before the current missing woman and she spoke with a member of that vicim's family and toured the house. And she noticed that that victim had been a seamstress who had patterns and a sewing machine in her room. Then, she noticed the window of that victim's room was overlooked by a window of a neighbor's home. Clarice knocked on that neighbor's door and discovered a man living there in his deceased mother's home and she started asking him questions and began also noticing oddities which eventually led her to the basement where the killer had the current missing woman in a deep hole.

But that is just a story. It could be that a perpetrator is not a neighbor, but a trespasser who uses a neighbor's home and property as he pleases.

ETA: The message expressed by SG in the first video ("Ask her, you'll see) was from SOTL. Is this perpetrator playing sick games?

An episode of Forensic Files was on tv today. It was about Eudora “Doe” Roberts. Her neighbour abducted and killed her, then sent ransom calls/notes.

 

[Wsimm]

A veteran Navy Seal Commander who was involved in many, many kidnap situations (Iraq etc) was a 'best guest" on today's STS Live and he states he personally believes NO way is this a genuine kidnap for ransom.

He claims it appears to be Extortion. The way it's played out just doesn't fit with a genuine kidnap for ransom situation.

I saw him too. I believe he also said something along the lines that you never pay a ransom without proof of life.

 

[missy1974]

If the FBI Director is going there tomorrow, I think that will be to announce an arrest with all that media.

it was made clear by the FBI spokesperson at the last new conference that this was a planned trip before NG went missing.

So I wouldn't read anything into the timing. JMO