Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

[clearskies1]

Just speculating here. In the siblings' first video to the "kidnappers" SG bluntly stated they needed proof their mother was still alive. I assume the second message was in response to that video. According to the news anchors that saw the second message it did not contain proof of life. My speculation is that the "kidnappers" responded they could not prove life. SG then says, "We understand."

The anchors also stated there were no demands in the second message so the, "We understand" was apparently not in response to any demands. I think SG knows her mother is gone (one way or another) and is asking for her remains.

Speculation and opinion.

It was reported that the first letter said that NG was "scared but safe". Under the theory that she died, did they lie in that letter? Or did she pass away in the few days after the first letter? JMO

 

[submarine7]

I wonder if NG dates or has any male friends she spends time with?

 

[muddlehead]

Back to the second half of the SB
Please
No more conjecture about SG coming up w/$6 mil
She can do it with a snap of her fingers
Any delay is LE trying to figure out how to hack into bitcoin or digital currency underground

 

[No it's not]

Odd coincidence. On February 4,1974, 19-year-old heiress Patty Hearst was kidnapped from her Berkeley, California apartment by the Symbionese Liberation Army (SLA). They initially demanded 2MIO and then 4MIO more..That would be 6MIO .They did demanded the 6MIO of dollars to be provided in food to CA residents.

We know how it’s all ended. However, it’s also caused a huge media frenzy. The media extensively covered the unfolding drama, including the tapes released by the SLA and Hearst’s subsequent radicalization. Legal battles about book/movie rights later followed.

While I do not expect the societal rifts in the NG case or any food distribution, I can see a similar media frenzy ensuing during which some of the bigger TV stations may be offering big money for future licensing fees (interviews, videos, photographs etc.).

Thoughts?

Prayers for Mrs Guthrie,
Nin

 

[Starkville]

Interesting. Because I thought it was weird. I find that incredibly enmeshed, that a friend at church would call a daughter about her mother? I would absolutely think nothing about someone missing church.

Of course, the gal who checked on her friend, for not answering her phone, caught Chris Watts, completely off guard. He had no clue police would be at his house the day he killed his wife, Shannon Watts, and two daughters.

Yes, well, Nickole Atkinson had made definite plans with Shanann and was supposed to go to a doctors appointment with her.

Unless Nancy had plans to meet someone at church, I agree, it’s enmeshed.

Anyway, maybe I’m hyper focused on this because there’s nothing new happening.

 

[Van Helsing]

Now wait a second right there sister
You don't believe Tonya when she says she had nothing to do with it?

Nice comic relief. Well done!

 

[muddlehead]

Nice comic relief. Well done!

I'm here for you all

 

[Vegasgrl]

Nancy Guthrie, 84, missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026 - MEDIA, MAPS, TIMELINE thread *NO DISCUSSION* You can find information here.

This is after the call was removed. I give up. I'll just scroll by the queries regarding the removal of that call. It's important to know why that timeline was changed, because that call prompted family to go the NG home. Or, maybe there was no call. I'll move on

 

[Neveroddoreven]

Apols if this has been raised (I’m sure it has). Surely other houses on that road have smart door bells. Have LE not yet released the car seen driving in the area at 2:30am ish, when I presume the roads would otherwise be very quiet?

 

[Mauritius]

Just thinking about the ransom letter submitted via tip line - if an actual kidnapper for ransom (who would have to plan for kidnapping plus where to hold the kidnapped person - needs planning) really thought through the ransom process, and was savvy enough to:
(1) send “letter” via tip line such that it’s not traceable via mail/no trace DNA or fingerprints on it/no handwriting to possibly match…
(2) demand payment in bitcoin and set up an untraceable wallet (?) to receive the payment, such that there’s no meeting somewhere to hand off ransom money, no marked bills…

Ok, we all know from books and movies - you will need the proof of life part. And if you planned well with those first two things, you should have had an equally savvy idea for providing proof of life (even if it’s an AI fake or whatever)

I feel like the total lack of a plan for showing the inevitably requested proof of life is inconsistent with the creative tactics to send the random note and get the money pretty safely.

Combining that bizarre oversight with the bizarre delay in even getting a ransom note delivered, I’m not sure but it makes me more skeptical that the ransom note sender is real… (although that bothers me too because authorities seem pretty sure.)

Anyway, lack of any planning or effort (real or fake) regarding the obvious proof of life requirement makes me wonder about the whole ransom request.

And If they were not the kidnapper, and its a hoaxer, the two tip line messages and setting up a bitcoin wallet didn’t take much effort or time, lots of weirdos could have done it?

 

[detectivewannab]

This makes me think AG and SIL are in the clear possibly. If they were involved, would they go and check so quickly? And the short time period before calling 911 seems pretty precise in terms of checking the house, noticing something is up, and quickly calling 911. I wonder what the 911 call documents.

Edit: If they were called at 11AM, and we assume they have maybe a 5-10 minute conversation on the phone, how long would it take for them to drive to NG's home? This might be academic anyway as we don't know where AG and SIL were beforehand, we can't necessarily assume they were at their home 4 miles away.

From the time the camera went off and her pacemaker disconnected was 41 minutes. Who ever was there had knowledge that the police where not called. I believe its some one that is family or in her circle.

 

[birdbox]

I had a question about the friend who called AG to say NG was not at church 1/31, and couldn’t reach her.

The church looks huge, so I take it, if Nancy goes in person, she sits in the same place, with friends every week. Perhaps, they even checked in the day before, and she said she would be there for church, and maybe lunch after?

It’s not like work or school where you are really expected to be there, with church, it’s a voluntary attendance.

I do think it’s a little strange the church friend called Nancy immediately after missing church. What an accountability group! The speed of the friend’s call makes me wonder a bit, just seems off to me.

JMO

It seems off.

 

[stmichael]

In the context of this story, did you see the weird AI generated Super Bowl commercial with all the big stars in their primes, followed by the brightly colored text screens? It was advertising the generic concept of crypto. It's scary times we are living in.

SG even alluded to this in her first video response:

“As a family, we are doing everything that we can,” Savannah said in a video posted on Instagram Feb. 4. “We are ready to talk. However, we live in a world where voices and images are easily manipulated. We need to know without a doubt that she is alive and that you have her.”


The FBI has a PSA on AI generated ransom scams.

Criminals Using Altered Proof-of-Life Media to Extort Victims in Virtual Kidnapping for Ransom Scams​

Internet Crime Complaint Center (IC3) | Criminals Using Altered Proof-of-Life Media to Extort Victims in Virtual Kidnapping for Ransom Scams

 

[pharmad]

Apols if this has been raised (I’m sure it has). Surely other houses on that road have smart door bells. Have LE not yet released the car seen driving in the area at 2:30am ish, when I presume the roads would otherwise be very quiet?

I imagine with the thick brush and hilly region, if a home in prox. to NG did have a camera facing the road, getting a well detailed view will be challenging.. I spent waaaay to much time this monring scouring a 2-4 mile radius around NG's home, and only a few could've "possibly" seen something. Otherwise the brush or a hill was blocking the view.

I'm still curious if LE reached out to the delivery driver, and secured the picture taken.

 

[MommaV]

When is it??? Pls RSVP! Didn’t know they were doing one

I wonder if the church would let anyone who isn’t a member attend, especially based on this past weeks events. I would think many of the parishioners could have issues with the publicity and privacy. MOO

 

[SaraSmile]

Here's something id like to know one day: Did AG try to call or text mom about some random topic, gets no answer, then calls a good friend of the mom to say, I can't reach my mom was she in church online this am?
Or does friend notice NG not in church, call AG to mention? Also, I noticed they were over there promptly at 12noon. I have never been to a service that gets out at 12 on the dot. Just an observation. I realize there are early services. Do we know what time the church service starts and ends??

At one time, LE said a church friend called NG at 11:00 because she missed church, so I took it the service ended around 11. Then the friend called AG ( Nancy’s daughter) to let her know Nancy missed church.

AG got to Nancy’s just before noon to check on Nancy, saw Nancy was gone, called sheriff just after noon.

At one time, the friend calling Nancy( 11:00), was in the timeline. Later removed…
AG going to check on Nancy and calling sheriff stayed in timeline.

 

[simlyme]

Yeah she is being porofessional I guess , but does she have to come on at all?
Be safe say nothing, When you have so many people hanging on to every word you say to get info, its a tease to say “ i know a lot but i cant tell you” just dont say anything at all.

yes, like I said the news outlet is the one getting the emails,I can bet that LE,FBI has the steering wheel on this one . In fact I wouldn't be surprised id LE wasn't sitting very close to her.
If we just heard , another email was sent, and nothing follows , we would all go insane.
She did differentiate the difference between this email and the other.
Her job as a reporter in this situation has to be really hard and she can't do it without help from LE.

 

[academyrd]

This makes me think AG and SIL are in the clear possibly. If they were involved, would they go and check so quickly? And the short time period before calling 911 seems pretty precise in terms of checking the house, noticing something is up, and quickly calling 911. I wonder what the 911 call documents.

Edit: If they were called at 11AM, and we assume they have maybe a 5-10 minute conversation on the phone, how long would it take for them to drive to NG's home? This might be academic anyway as we don't know where AG and SIL were beforehand, we can't necessarily assume they were at their home 4 miles away.

We have no idea what alerted them to go check on NG, nor at what time. That part of the timeline vanished since Monday. I think that’s the problem here and why SIL seems like the most likely perp.

 

[Van Helsing]

That’s my interpretation too. Particularly because she said ‘that is the only way WE will have PEACE’. If you are hoping your loved one is coming home (alive) then peace isn’t quite the word you’d use. It is also prioritising the siblings feelings and needs not the moms.

JMO.

Excellent points, but I hope otherwise.

 

[CrimeDawg123]

I've just watch Brian Entin's latest video. Seriously, that footage of the flashes taking place inside AG's darkened house are the most chilling clips I have seen in this whole case. Extremely eerie and ominous.

But then they just left with one little paper sack. If they found anything, I'd have thought we'd see more activity, the house torn apart, and more things removed.