AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

[SMK777]

Also a strange detail to lie about, if it is indeed untrue. It's so easy to say, "Well, who contacted you?"

jmo

Unless they felt it sounded like such an innocent statement from family, it never occurred to them that it would be fact-checked.

I believe it was, and came up wanting. This began LE's suspicions.

The fact that it still remains in documents could be LE's way of bookmarking it.

It was removed from the timeline for a reason. Their garage was luminol tested for a reason. Septic tank searched for a reason. Area between the 2 houses searched for a reason. MY OPINION ONLY!!!

 

[Walela]

In those very first reports it was said that homicide teams were on scene at NG’s house. Some of the statements made by the sheriff during the first presser made it sound like it was a grim scene. IMO, I think she could’ve been dead before she even left the house.

This excerpt is quoting the first press conference:

‘Searchers were using drones and search dogs to look for her, Nanos said. Search and rescue teams were supported by volunteers and Border Patrol, and the homicide team was also involved, he said. It is not standard for the homicide team to get involved in such cases, Nanos said. The FBI has offered to help, Carrillo said.

“This one stood out because of what was described to us at the scene and what we located just looking at the scene,” Nanos said Sunday. He was not ruling out foul play.

On Monday morning, Nanos said search crews worked hard but have since been pulled back.

“We don’t see this as a search mission so much as it is a crime scene,” the sheriff said.

Authorities believe 'Today' show host Savannah Guthrie's mother was taken against her will

Authorities believe the 84-year-old mother of “Today” show host Savannah Guthrie was kidnapped, abducted or otherwise taken against her will.

www.wcvb.com

Now I wonder what "stood out" from what was described and what they located by looking at the scene....what was the difference and who exactly did the initial describing? Was it initially described as a kidnapping or an abduction? That statement by Nanos seems to indicate there was something that triggered a disbelief in what was described.

LE may know who did this but there isn't enough evidence yet to make an arrest. It would be horrible for them to know and not be able to tell the family they know who did it and for sure the ransom is actually not related but an extortion and stop the family from paying the money demand.
moo

 

[tlcya]

Exactly. That could have even been an initial call from Calella who knows at this point. There is nothing verifying a call was made or received.

There may be plenty verifying that contact from a friend with unnamed family member. I don't think the sheriff would have mentioned it on day one if it didn't happen and I seriously doubt it would be in a federal court filing several days later if it hadn't. JMO

It would make things much easier if authorities would just tell us that tho, how contact was made and what time. Even an approximate time of that contact would be helpful MOO

 

[GatorFL]

What more acknowledgment are you expecting? The FBI directly referenced it.

https://www.justice.gov/usao-az/media/1426976/dl?inline

You're referencing the fake extortion caller instead of identifying who reported NG missing from church to her family.

 

[Jade]

Thank you. Notice it states "contacted" and "notified". There is no direct mention that it was a "call" but I acknowledge that either of those terms could be referencing a call.

Approximately 11 a.m.: Someone who attends church with Nancy Guthrie called the family to report that the 84-year-old never made it to services, the sheriff said.

Nancy Guthrie abduction: Sheriff reveals more detailed timeline

Nancy Guthrie was taken from her home early Sunday, authorities said.

www.yahoo.com

 

[SMK777]

if a criminal complaint from the FBI is not enough, what is? lol

Document could keep it in as a bookmark.
See my post #14, 634

 

[louvillian08]

You're referencing the fake extortion caller instead of identifying who reported NG missing from church to her family.

No, I am not.

 

[Inthedetails]

Approximately 11 a.m.: Someone who attends church with Nancy Guthrie called the family to report that the 84-year-old never made it to services, the sheriff said.

Nancy Guthrie abduction: Sheriff reveals more detailed timeline

Nancy Guthrie was taken from her home early Sunday, authorities said.

www.yahoo.com

Maybe he meant metaphorically, like when he said she was taken from her bed (but didn't mean literally taken from her bed).

Just saying.

jmo

 

[txsleuth70]

There may be plenty verifying that contact from a friend with unnamed family member. I don't think the sheriff would have mentioned it on day one if it didn't happen and I seriously doubt it would be in a federal court filing several days later if it hadn't. JMO

It would make things much easier if authorities would just tell us that tho, how contact was made and what time. Even an approximate time of that contact would be helpful MOO

The sheriff's statement and info in the court filing are based on what AG/TC TOLD them. There is nothing included along with it to verify it as fact. All I'm saying. The court filing is only the officer's report.

 

[sprightly]

You're referencing the fake extortion caller instead of identifying who reported NG missing from church to her family.

In that link, you will find the criminal complaint against the fake ransomer. However, THAT complaint confirms the contact from church member to family.

 

[wibbleflea]

So what you’re speculating is if she would have attended the 10:45 mass, her missing was an emergency to report to family during the mass by a churchgoer, rather than waiting until after mass ended?

Let's say NG was a fixture at those services – on Zoom, even – and was absent that day. Let's say that her friend noted her unusual absence, called her, got no response, and thought it very unusual. The friend may have mentioned it to her family, just to be sure. I don't know if that's what happened, but it seems entirely plausible.

 

[Wsimm]

Not even speaking publicly identified. They have not said "we spoke to the church member and verified the call" or "call records confirm" or a timeline shows "11:04 church member called". There's nada, zilch, nothing.

We’re not in any privy to know, but it has definitely left many of us here questioning….including myself.

 

[Ellis' Mom]

Excuse my flabbergasted response, since thread 2 or 3 plus Banfield’s position many, many posts suspecting him!

I agree--I've seen SIL mentioned a bazillion times.
IMHO, all mentions of him--and some pretty wild theories--seem to be based on the fact that he was the last identified person to see her, which is not evidence of him harming NG. It feels like 'guilty until proven otherwise' for him.
I have such sympathy for the family--horrific what they're going through.

 

[MommaV]

Am I missing something? That document says "contacted," not "called."

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Sorry, wrong link
“Guthrie was reported missing after a church-goer called the family to say she hadn’t shown up for services that morning, and worried relatives called the cops. Family members had dropped her off at her home just after 9:30 the night before.”

https://www.the-express.com/entertainment/tv/197970/fox-news-savannah-guthrie-mother

 

[SlimPickens]

Some people are letting their own biases cloud their judgment. Not a good trait

Everyone lets their own biases cloud their judgment. That's why the scientific method exists - to falsify or corroborate them.

JMO.

 

[lonetraveler]

This information was presented by the Sheriff timeline style at the time of the bullet point display.

I assume the call was left out of the display because of the "approximately" where the other points are times verifiable through technology and the Uber driver's recording with NG in the car.

The relatives claimed they arrived to check on NG at 11:56 and the 911 call at 12:03 must be connected as verified as to the arrival time in the 911 recording apparently. Guess they looked at the time on their phone as they arrived.

Wouldn't the relatives phone have the exact time and duration of the call from the Church friend to verify that point?

Approximately 11 a.m.: Someone who attends church with Nancy Guthrie called the family to report that the 84-year-old never made it to services, the sheriff said.

11:56 a.m.: Relatives responded to Nancy Guthrie's home and discovered she was missing, the sheriff said.

12:03 p.m.: The family called 911, the sheriff said.

Nancy Guthrie abduction: Sheriff reveals more detailed timeline


imo

Church usually begins at 11:00 am. The friend didn't wait very long to contact NG's family.

 

[Van Helsing]

One thing is true IMO- If this is a kidnapping, (and maybe even if it isn't) and the family pays, then it is open season on relatives of famous people in the US in a way that only Mexico and Brazil have experienced.

Agree, but that might not mean that much to the immediate family.

 

[SRWCF]

The Pima police chief was so loose with words at that first presser that I don’t entirely take everything he said there literally, including his statement about NG being at church. That being said, I find it very curious that he didn’t include the phone call in the latest timeline.

Yeah, I'm with you. I'm giving him a pass as he was clearly not used to being in the spotlight (he even said something similar himself). This is why companies and agencies hire spokespeople who know how to speak to the press. However, in high-profile cases like this one, the public wants to hear directly from the "one in charge" (i.e. Chief Nanos). I remember the same thing happened during those first few press conferences given by Moscow, ID police after the Idaho 4 murders. The public really lambasted LE and picked apart every single thing they said.

 

[louvillian08]

The sheriff's statement and info in the court filing are based on what AG/TC TOLD them. There is nothing included along with it to verify it as fact. All I'm saying. The court filing is only the officer's report.

If you think the FBI drafted a filing with factual details, like a phone call from 5 days previously, without ever verifying those details… idk what to tell you.

But if so, that is your opinion. It is incorrect to say the information in a federal court document is only based on what AG/TC said.

 

[ab01]

Also a strange detail to lie about, if it is indeed untrue. It's so easy to say, "Well, who contacted you?"

jmo

Or could it have just simply been left out initially bc early on it hadn't yet been verified.

Since then it's been verified but they haven't felt the need to clarify bc it doesn't affect the timeline of pertinent events.

Didn't show up for church, family looked for her and called 911

Could be just that simple