Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

[louvillian08]

You're referencing the fake extortion caller instead of identifying who reported NG missing from church to her family.

No, I am not.

 

[Deleted member 117884]

Approximately 11 a.m.: Someone who attends church with Nancy Guthrie called the family to report that the 84-year-old never made it to services, the sheriff said.

Nancy Guthrie abduction: Sheriff reveals more detailed timeline

Nancy Guthrie was taken from her home early Sunday, authorities said.

www.yahoo.com

Maybe he meant metaphorically, like when he said she was taken from her bed (but didn't mean literally taken from her bed).

Just saying.

jmo

 

[txsleuth70]

There may be plenty verifying that contact from a friend with unnamed family member. I don't think the sheriff would have mentioned it on day one if it didn't happen and I seriously doubt it would be in a federal court filing several days later if it hadn't. JMO

It would make things much easier if authorities would just tell us that tho, how contact was made and what time. Even an approximate time of that contact would be helpful MOO

The sheriff's statement and info in the court filing are based on what AG/TC TOLD them. There is nothing included along with it to verify it as fact. All I'm saying. The court filing is only the officer's report.

 

[sprightly]

You're referencing the fake extortion caller instead of identifying who reported NG missing from church to her family.

In that link, you will find the criminal complaint against the fake ransomer. However, THAT complaint confirms the contact from church member to family.

 

[wibbleflea]

So what you’re speculating is if she would have attended the 10:45 mass, her missing was an emergency to report to family during the mass by a churchgoer, rather than waiting until after mass ended?

Let's say NG was a fixture at those services – on Zoom, even – and was absent that day. Let's say that her friend noted her unusual absence, called her, got no response, and thought it very unusual. The friend may have mentioned it to her family, just to be sure. I don't know if that's what happened, but it seems entirely plausible.

 

[Wsimm]

Not even speaking publicly identified. They have not said "we spoke to the church member and verified the call" or "call records confirm" or a timeline shows "11:04 church member called". There's nada, zilch, nothing.

We’re not in any privy to know, but it has definitely left many of us here questioning….including myself.

 

[Ellis' Mom]

Excuse my flabbergasted response, since thread 2 or 3 plus Banfield’s position many, many posts suspecting him!

I agree--I've seen SIL mentioned a bazillion times.
IMHO, all mentions of him--and some pretty wild theories--seem to be based on the fact that he was the last identified person to see her, which is not evidence of him harming NG. It feels like 'guilty until proven otherwise' for him.
I have such sympathy for the family--horrific what they're going through.

 

[MommaV]

Am I missing something? That document says "contacted," not "called."

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Sorry, wrong link
“Guthrie was reported missing after a church-goer called the family to say she hadn’t shown up for services that morning, and worried relatives called the cops. Family members had dropped her off at her home just after 9:30 the night before.”

https://www.the-express.com/entertainment/tv/197970/fox-news-savannah-guthrie-mother

 

[SlimPickens]

Some people are letting their own biases cloud their judgment. Not a good trait

Everyone lets their own biases cloud their judgment. That's why the scientific method exists - to falsify or corroborate them.

JMO.

 

[lonetraveler]

This information was presented by the Sheriff timeline style at the time of the bullet point display.

I assume the call was left out of the display because of the "approximately" where the other points are times verifiable through technology and the Uber driver's recording with NG in the car.

The relatives claimed they arrived to check on NG at 11:56 and the 911 call at 12:03 must be connected as verified as to the arrival time in the 911 recording apparently. Guess they looked at the time on their phone as they arrived.

Wouldn't the relatives phone have the exact time and duration of the call from the Church friend to verify that point?

Approximately 11 a.m.: Someone who attends church with Nancy Guthrie called the family to report that the 84-year-old never made it to services, the sheriff said.

11:56 a.m.: Relatives responded to Nancy Guthrie's home and discovered she was missing, the sheriff said.

12:03 p.m.: The family called 911, the sheriff said.

Nancy Guthrie abduction: Sheriff reveals more detailed timeline


imo

Church usually begins at 11:00 am. The friend didn't wait very long to contact NG's family.

 

[Van Helsing]

One thing is true IMO- If this is a kidnapping, (and maybe even if it isn't) and the family pays, then it is open season on relatives of famous people in the US in a way that only Mexico and Brazil have experienced.

Agree, but that might not mean that much to the immediate family.

 

[SRWCF]

The Pima police chief was so loose with words at that first presser that I don’t entirely take everything he said there literally, including his statement about NG being at church. That being said, I find it very curious that he didn’t include the phone call in the latest timeline.

Yeah, I'm with you. I'm giving him a pass as he was clearly not used to being in the spotlight (he even said something similar himself). This is why companies and agencies hire spokespeople who know how to speak to the press. However, in high-profile cases like this one, the public wants to hear directly from the "one in charge" (i.e. Chief Nanos). I remember the same thing happened during those first few press conferences given by Moscow, ID police after the Idaho 4 murders. The public really lambasted LE and picked apart every single thing they said.

 

[louvillian08]

The sheriff's statement and info in the court filing are based on what AG/TC TOLD them. There is nothing included along with it to verify it as fact. All I'm saying. The court filing is only the officer's report.

If you think the FBI drafted a filing with factual details, like a phone call from 5 days previously, without ever verifying those details… idk what to tell you.

But if so, that is your opinion. It is incorrect to say the information in a federal court document is only based on what AG/TC said.

 

[ab01]

Also a strange detail to lie about, if it is indeed untrue. It's so easy to say, "Well, who contacted you?"

jmo

Or could it have just simply been left out initially bc early on it hadn't yet been verified.

Since then it's been verified but they haven't felt the need to clarify bc it doesn't affect the timeline of pertinent events.

Didn't show up for church, family looked for her and called 911

Could be just that simple

 

[mikeshanty]

Church usually begins at 11:00 am. The friend didn't wait very long to contact NG's family.

No, there are two services on the Sundays at the specific church in question; 9:00 AM and 10:45AM.

 

[cady]

For some reason I’ve always felt that the person responsible for her being gone is the same person that reported her “not at church” to get the ball rolling.

If that person is under surveillance, LE isn't about to tell us, anyway. They will keep repeating no POI's, no suspects, until there is an arrest. JMO

 

[MizStery]

The call referenced on this complaint refers to HIS call demanding ransom.
I don't see anything referring to a call reporting her non-attendance of church.
What do you see that I'm missing?

I am sorry @Ellis' MomI was slow to respond. The thread is moving so fast I missed your post. I apologize my link did not post page 2 of the complaint. This the missing page 2.

 

[Deleted member 117884]

Some people are letting their own biases cloud their judgment. Not a good trait

With all respect, we are not law enforcement, judges, prosecutors, or jury members. In a discussion, it's welcome, imo, to share personal opinions and experiences. Maybe some ideas are off-mark, but maybe some are insightful.

Brainstorming and thinking together can be messy or cloudy sometimes. It's okay.

jmo

 

[Curiousobserver]

TOR browser makes it dead easy, actually. There is no official company or oversight of TOR browser. No official VPN. Just thousands of nodes of TOR users that send traffic randomly all over the world.

This is all just MHO- The problem is that your ISP (Spectrum, Charter, Xfinity, Starlink, hughesnet or whoever you use for the onramp) always knows when you're using the TOR and records the traffic. The ISP knows who and when, just not what or why. If the sender was in the US, the FBI will find out who sent it eventually.

The kidnappers would be wise not to communicate any further, because every time they do they are creating another fingerprint that can be used to pull their identifying information out of the billions of packets sent.

 

[tlcya]

The sheriff's statement and info in the court filing are based on what AG/TC TOLD them. There is nothing included along with it to verify it as fact. All I'm saying. The court filing is only the officer's report.

NG went missing on Jan 31st. Sheriff mentioned church friend alarm on Feb 2nd. Court filing was signed on Feb 5th. By a federal agent. FBI has been involved almost from day one. There is nothing in that court filing to verify a single allegation made in it. Because it isn't required in a complaint. It's a sworn document.

MOO the church friend exists. FBI doesn't just take the initial reporting officer's word for it. I feel strongly this contact has been vetted. I just wish I understood why the timing of it isn't part of the official timeline. It now has me wondering if there was some long delay in the unnamed family member on the receiving end before acting on that concern. And THAT is why LE isn't telling the public. We've all seen how almost immediately SIL was a potential suspect by the public from practically the first hour she was reported missing. How much worse would the public speculation be if it came out that the friend contact family at say 10:30 am?