AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

[Zeta74]

Given how much blood was by the front door, doesn’t that make the delayed 911 call more suspicious? I’m just trying to imagine going to my mom’s house after she missed a regular activity, finding her gone and seeing blood outside her front door and doing anything beyond calling my local siblings and then 911. Maybe I take 10 minutes to call close friends to see if someone helped her get to a hospital. I think my immediate suspicion would be a head injury and then wandering off, so time would be of the essence. I’d rather be embarrassed at rushing to call for help if she innocently turned up than waste precious time.

 

[clearskies1]

oh this helps a lot...I have to trust that PageSix is quoting the NYT property. BUT it still does not say HE WENT BACK to check on Nancy.
Does anyone, who has access to the NYT, see that they say that, or do not say that?? tia

Cioni was the last person to see Nancy — despite previous reports it was Annie — as he was the one to drop his mother-in-law off at her house around 9:30 p.m

Today the New York Times reported this:

"Ms. Guthrie was last seen Saturday around 9:45 p.m., when her son-in-law dropped her off at her home in the Catalina Foothills, a quiet, wealthy neighborhood near the Santa Catalina Mountains just north of Tucson."

Search for Savannah Guthrie’s Mother Grows More Urgent

The authorities made urgent pleas for help from the public as they tried to locate Ms. Guthrie, the 84-year-old mother of the “Today” anchor Savannah Guthrie.

www.nytimes.com

 

[thefragile7393]

SIL sister in law, BIL brother in law however I've read here a more then 1 post that some are confusing this.
edit to add SIL could also mean son in law I guess.

regarding NG, SIL would be son in law, the husband of her daughter

 

[MarciB]

Today the New York Times reported this:

"Ms. Guthrie was last seen Saturday around 9:45 p.m., when her son-in-law dropped her off at her home in the Catalina Foothills, a quiet, wealthy neighborhood near the Santa Catalina Mountains just north of Tucson."

Search for Savannah Guthrie’s Mother Grows More Urgent

The authorities made urgent pleas for help from the public as they tried to locate Ms. Guthrie, the 84-year-old mother of the “Today” anchor Savannah Guthrie.

www.nytimes.com

that's helpful. I have NYT subscription, but haven't read this article

 

[nhmemorymaker]

Typically those receive deletes not an entire thread shut down

But "clean-ups" do shut it down. Even a while, in such a fast moving thread/case is a hardship!!!

 

[Strangeworld]

well... here is that family photo again..... Isn't that Camron on the right?
I dont think it is Annie's partner??? Not sure tho.

I wouldn't keep posting that photo, there are children in it

 

[keek]

From the beginning, this case has given me Sandra Crispo vibes even before the possible rumors of NG’s sil being possibly involved. IMO

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Def, me as well. Never found, very suspicious sisters and one's boyfriend. Unfortunately the grand jury was not successful in obtaining any indictments though all involved, family, were questioned. DO not ever be surprised when monstrous people see a chance at money or keeping mum to 'save themselves'. Disgusting bunch. So, as far as this case, we can't be shocked, though we may, at anything. IMO

 

[Chimera]

Given how much blood was by the front door, doesn’t that make the delayed 911 call more suspicious? I’m just trying to imagine going to my mom’s house after she missed a regular activity, finding her gone and seeing blood outside her front door and doing anything beyond calling my local siblings and then 911. Maybe I take 10 minutes to call close friends to see if someone helped her get to a hospital. I think my immediate suspicion would be a head injury and then wandering off, so time would be of the essence. I’d rather be embarrassed at rushing to call for help if she innocently turned up than waste precious time.

Agreed.
And the missing ring doorbell cam(sorry if it's a different type of security cam. it may have been discussed and I missed it ?), would've sent me panicking asap !!
Imo.

 

[academyrd]

regarding NG, SIL would be son in law, the husband of her daughter

Got it. Annie is the sister of Savannah, daughter of Nancy. Italian guy is the BIL of Savanah and Son in Law of Nancy.

 

[Bipolar Express]

the getaway car might have been in the driveway close to the house and that's why the blood trail stopped

Yes and no street lights and driveway away from main road. If perp was a frequent visitor to the house, which I believe is the case, they would have no problem turning off headlight and pulling up near house without (they assumed) the camera getting a good shot of the vehicle. Also its possible the camera didn’t capture the driveway, and the perp knew this. They then proceeded to the back door where they knew there was no camera or camera disabled already and entered that way. Before exiting the house through the front door w a possibly already injured NG, they smashed the front door camera, from an angle that wouldn’t show them, then walked to the car w NG being carried, and drove off.

All speculation and all just MOO

 

[Chimera]

Got it. Annie is the sister of Savannah, daughter of Nancy. Italian guy is the BIL of Savanah and Son in Law of Nancy.

I believe there's a brother of Savannah's who is/was a military pilot ?
Omo.

 

[nhmemorymaker]

Today the New York Times reported this:

"Ms. Guthrie was last seen Saturday around 9:45 p.m., when her son-in-law dropped her off at her home in the Catalina Foothills, a quiet, wealthy neighborhood near the Santa Catalina Mountains just north of Tucson."

Search for Savannah Guthrie’s Mother Grows More Urgent

The authorities made urgent pleas for help from the public as they tried to locate Ms. Guthrie, the 84-year-old mother of the “Today” anchor Savannah Guthrie.

www.nytimes.com

Good, thanks.
But it still never says :HE WENT BACK to check on her".
I just find this statement very incriminating, and if it has never been stated as fact, we should not state it either.
jmo

 

[Starkville]

and the 9:30p timeframe is only known because that is the time that HE gave for the drop off. Is there any confirmation that this timeline is correct?

Agree! From what I read at first, it seemed as though NG had gone to a celebration dinner and then playing mah jong.

Mah jong is usually played in groups of four, and there are usually women who get together to play in larger groups. Generally, it’s analogous to a man’s “poker night”. I know it’s not a hard and fast rule, but I’ve never known a man to play mah jong; always women. This led me to assume that maybe Nancy and her daughter were part of a group that played regularly.

Sorry for being long-winded. I wonder what time that was, and who else was there. I’d consider those accounts as more reliable than the daughter and husband, MOO.

 

[marloweclover]

Imo it's possible the front door scene was not immediately discovered by family. When I visit my own mother, I never go in the front door. I go to the side door into the family room, and you can't see the ground at the front doorstep from there. If she was gone, I'd be more focused initially on looking inside the whole house, and then out back. The front formal entry wouldn't be high on my list of places mom might have gotten into trouble. Jmo.

 

[Chimera]

Yes and no street lights and driveway away from main road. If perp was a frequent visitor to the house, which I believe is the case, they would have no problem turning off headlight and pulling up near house without (they assumed) the camera getting a good shot of the vehicle. Also its possible the camera didn’t capture the driveway, and the perp knew this. They then proceeded to the back door where they knew there was no camera or camera disabled already and entered that way. Before exiting the house through the front door w a possibly already injured NG, they smashed the front door camera, from an angle that wouldn’t show them, then walked to the car w NG being carried, and drove off.

All speculation and all just MOO

Emphasis mine.
Agreed, all good points !

Re. the bolded : Pre-planned or premeditated ?
Imo.

 

[Sadi]

and the 9:30p timeframe is only known because that is the time that HE gave for the drop off. Is there any confirmation that this timeline is correct?

Maybe there are security cameras at Annie’s home? That would show when they left and if any other trips were made etc. if they have cameras, I would hope they were working.

 

[academyrd]

Agree! From what I read at first, it seemed as though NG had gone to a celebration dinner and then playing mah jong.

Mah jong is usually played in groups of four, and there are usually women who get together to play in larger groups. Generally, it’s analogous to a man’s “poker night”. I know it’s not a hard and fast rule, but I’ve never known a man to play mah jong; always women. This led me to assume that maybe Nancy and her daughter were part of a group that played regularly.

Sorry for being long-winded. I wonder what time that was, and who else was there. I’d consider those accounts as more reliable than the daughter and husband, MOO.

Also 9:30PM is a late time for an 84 year old woman to be out and about.

 

[Strangeworld]

Lots of sleuthing of family who have not officially been named as suspects or POI. I guess it's a bit of a grey area if an approved media source reports them as such, but then again, now LE has denied it.

And the photo with the children has been posted twice now - big no no

 

[nhmemorymaker]

Yes and no street lights and driveway away from main road. If perp was a frequent visitor to the house, which I believe is the case, they would have no problem turning off headlight and pulling up near house without (they assumed) the camera getting a good shot of the vehicle. Also its possible the camera didn’t capture the driveway, and the perp knew this. They then proceeded to the back door where they knew there was no camera or camera disabled already and entered that way. Before exiting the house through the front door w a possibly already injured NG, they smashed the front door camera, from an angle that wouldn’t show them, then walked to the car w NG being carried, and drove off.

All speculation and all just MOO

I keep thinking of the Tepe case... they had SO much digital and forensic evidence from the get go.... and did not share it for the longest time.

I really hope this is the case here....
It is quite rural, so neighboring cameras is probably non-existent.... but ohhhhh how I hope there is. We just need to put the rumors to rest.

 

[Ur728]

Also 9:30PM is a late time for an 84 year old woman to be out and about.

If she’s active and in fairly good health, which I believe she is, based on the fact that she lives alone. There’s no reason for her not to be able to sleep in. JMO