AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

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Does the gated community have cameras or a code?

as others have said, it's not gated. also, apparently, it's so dark and there's so much vegetation, it would be hard for home security cameras to get clear pictures of cars on the road.
 
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I’m trying to decide if the video was weird or if this situation is just so insane that it is so foreign to all of us and shocking
Don't forget that Samantha is an actor of sorts.
 
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I think it’s both! At least that’s how I feel personally. I’ve never seen a case like this and the video is weird to me.
Annie’s statement is weird. Savannahs is from the heart. Imo
 
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People can hide the IP address by setting up an untraceable VPN. Considering they're talking about bitcoin, they are tech savvy.
That's probably why the Internet Crimes Against Children are helping. They are tech savy too.

jmo
 
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The body language in that video is very telling. This entire situation is way bigger than anyone could have imagined. I suspect this video is kinda like a distraction as well. Because they are watching the person possibly online.
 
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I see there appears to be a pool "house" in the back. Probably houses the filter and pool tools. Hopefully they have checked in there.

I still wonder about a sleep aid, specifically Ambien. Maybe she got out of bed, went into the garage to get in the car. Possibly didn't have keys. Went back out to the front, bumped her head and started bleeding. Walked around to the back and fell in some of the brush. It's frightening what a person can do, even when dressed in night clothes and bare feet.
 
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Annie’s statement is weird. Savannahs is from the heart. Imo

well, savannah literally has a career delivering messages on camera. annie does not.
 
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Even if she attended via video/zoom, church friends would still notice if she were missing. imo
It did say there was no way anyone would know who was watching.
 
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When I saw they were emailed I thought that they should be easy to trace from the ISP? address. I've heard cases where they've tracked the computer used to a library. This surprises me that they can't trace them.
My library wants proof of who you are before they'll give you a code to use the public computers. So those things are tracked. At least here. I'd think everywhere with as weird as this world is getting.
 
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People can hide the IP address by setting up an untraceable VPN. Considering they're talking about bitcoin, they are tech savvy.
I guess I just figured the FBI can get around untraceable stuff like that 😂 I think I’ve watched too many action and thriller movies.
 
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Could LE have been at AG's house today to film the video of the 3 Guthrie siblings?
yes, and I'm wondering whether the visit to Nancy's house and its garage was to ascertain or find something that relates to the ransom note. Maybe.
 
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I see there appears to be a pool "house" in the back. Probably houses the filter and pool tools. Hopefully they have checked in there.

I still wonder about a sleep aid, specifically Ambien. Maybe she got out of bed, went into the garage to get in the car. Possibly didn't have keys. Went back out to the front, bumped her head and started bleeding. Walked around to the back and fell in some of the brush. It's frightening what a person can do, even when dressed in night clothes and bare feet.

The issue with that accidental/misadventure theory is that the security cameras were ripped out.
 
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Anyone know if these homes have a crawl space or are they built on slab?
My bet is slab as the house looks quasi "artisan" and thus probably had the higher end construction techniques.
 
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Annie’s statement is weird. Savannahs is from the heart. Imo
They both sounded sincere to me. This is such a bizarre situation overall. It is hard to gage normalcy.
 
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well, savannah literally has a career delivering messages on camera. annie does not.
I really couldn't understand Annie's message for some reason.
 
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It did say there was no way anyone would know who was watching.
But perhaps they text during service, etc. and on Sunday they couldn't reach her.

It's been reported from that start that church friends alerted the family, why is that now in doubt? What did I miss?

jmo
 
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I really couldn't understand Annie's message for some reason.

She was softer spoken and further back from the camera. Savannah is trained in speaking to a camera and projecting her voice. JMO
 
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see post #3204 above
Best to always give a link to the actual post, especially in one like this where I'm thinking there are posts getting deleted... The link will always go to the right post. But, post numbers will change due to deleted posts so post 3204 might end up an entirely different post over time. Just a FYI... :)
 
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Could LE have been at AG's house today to film the video of the 3 Guthrie siblings?
Yes, that's almost certainly what happened. The timing matches, and they brought in a tripod.
 

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