AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

[Synergizer Bunny]

Anyone else think the FBI guy revealed that fact about the 5pm deadline by mistake?!

Sorry if someone already said this, I was typing and am now twenty pages behind!

I actually was thinking about this Thursday deadline as to the reason the family wanted to make a plea just in case the ransom note was valid. I would do the same even if I were being told that it was more than likely a fake.

JMO.

 

[KellySleuth]

Sure, but that blood has already been processed. Now it would be different if they went back and reprocessed it, but that's not what happened.

I criticized this myself yesterday, and I stand by that. But I don't believe it is going to change anything, based on past cases with incredibly egregious mistakes much worse than this.

It may very well not change anything but the potential for contamination still makes it a big mistake, IMO. That's all I'm saying.

 

[Greenestdays]

If they know the time of the “person detected” alert, how can they not know which camera it came from? Alerts are always linked to a specific device. Or are they trying to flush somebody out being vague about the camera situation? Hoping to spook the perp into thinking there were more than what he/she was aware of? But then why would they say they’ve been unable to extract data as it’s been overwritten? This is so confusing.

 

[browneyes]

The DA's office is probably out at Home Depot even as we speak buying rolls of duct tape.

JMO.

Huh?

 

[Zeta74]

People let security stuff lapse all the time. Plenty of fancy homes have security signs in the yard and the mechanics installed in their home with no active service. I grew up in one of those homes. We left our back door unlocked.

 

[Justice101]

My opinion: It sounds like there are 2+ cameras we are dealing with here: the Ring doorbell camera, which was disconnected around 1:45 am, and at least one other camera inside the house that detected movement around 2:15 am. None of the footage from either of the cameras is available for viewing because it was set to delete every 3 hours.

To me, that indicates that the perp knew there was a Ring doorbell and took action to remove it, but was NOT aware of the inside camera(s) and just got lucky that the footage deleted itself so quickly.

There are also motion sensors that don't record video. We have a couple of those in our house... supposed to ignore dogs.. but ours really doesn't so we disconnected it.

 

[TMich6811]

I did not hear him say that the family member "gets her settled in house."

I didn’t say anyone said it?

Still seems reasonable

ETA. I edited for an imo.

 

[Aquabot13]

What i really don't understand is while the family has the resources why they didn't bother with the subscription. Especially because it's a elderly lady living alone and who is fairly fragile.

IMO it sounds like an oversight - something like one of the kids setting them up on a credit card that expired or forgetting to renew a subscription. Especially if her cameras were from multiple brands/used multiple subscriptions, I can see how one could be forgotten.

My mom and her siblings are constantly buying things for my grandma that they think will make her life easier. They set up any subscriptions for her so they can give her the items ready to go. I couldn't hazard a guess at who controls which subscriptions or even the total population of subscriptions in her apartment.

MOO

 

[Leilei]

Any thoughts about a kidnapper that gives two timelines for meeting demands?

My thought is that it makes zero sense unless it's two different ransom notes from two different entities.
One (or even both) has to be a hoax.
IMO.

 

[Sundog]

Question: What does "pacemaker app disconnects from phone" mean? I mean, I know what it means... but I'm trying to understand why it would do that. Thx.

I think it means that she is no longer in proximity to the phone?

 

[Mauritius]

Probably just touch DNA

Good point. And for speed, with sample of visible blood you have something to test and you know there will be dna.
With “touch” dna, you are sending in items without visible dna and hoping they have dna detectable somewhere on them and that it’s enough to test. You might send in many items that look like they *could* have been handled by the criminal, all of which then have to get analyzed to see if there’s something on them to test, then test it… many potential items sent in probably don’t work out to find a sample. So I can see that could take quite a bit of time.

 

[honestground]

Who installed security cameras in her house and/or around?

And who knew she didn't have the subscription? May be the same person(s).

 

[TMich6811]

My grandmother is in her 80s. Could easily afford a security system. We could provide also. She refuses. Not interested at all

 

[amelia65452]

I actually was thinking about this Thursday deadline as to the reason the family wanted to make a plea just in case the ransom note was valid. I would do the same even if I were being told that it was more than likely a fake.

JMO.

He seemed ready to answer that question, as Jon pulled out a piece of paper to show him to read the specific time to clarify. It seemed very intentional to me that we did know.

 

[browneyes]

If you knew you weren’t paying for a Nest service, would you know it was overwriting?

I’m not sure who would actually know that.

If you read your instructions while setting it up.

 

[Justice101]

OK, I am mentally shot on this presser. Outta here

See you on the flip side

 

[txsleuth70]

sorry guys, there's too much to look through at this point - there was an arrest?

Only for one of the fake ransoms notes.

 

[Dddearmas]

Well, it just seems odd. It seems it had to be somebody in the know familiar with the family and for me “follow the money.”
Is there anybody in the family who was in debt, borrowing money. Hmmmm good question.

 

[soap mama]

What time zone is the ransom letter deadline in?

 

[Shekkiec]

Is there a new timeline link with what new press conference recapped?