AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

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Tricia said yesterday this Tiktok was allowed from this forensic scientist, former CSI, blood stain spatter specialist yesterday so bringing i it up again for anyone who might have missed it.

It's about the blood outside and it's quite interesting, IMO.

Thank you for this. Very interesting.
 
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I think the Ransom note is just a complete hoax - if it was true then I believe once it hit the media (about 48 hours ago now?) there would quickly be a ‘proof of life’ sent. This is an 84 year old women who requires medication to control health issues.. she would also be under huge stress.. I don’t think time is really on ‘the abductors side’

I also don’t think if you was abducting somebody you’d notice that a smart watch was left behind.. This information was released in the media prior to the note imo.

I think the FBI person played it clever by reporting an arrest for a hoax letter.. I think this will send the other ransom note author into a panic and they likely will never hear from them again MOO
 
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So I am fairly sure some of the homes in this have cams to the outside. I haven't seen any news regarding looking at door cams of neighbors etc.
 
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I mean, supposedly the ransom note included a bitcoin wallet address. So the ransom could have been paid without any contact, and maybe that's what they wanted. It's not as if contact would have been needed in order to comply with the demand.
I can see how an abductor may not want to contact out of fear that LE will catch a lead. If you're abducting people to get a ransom payout you'd do everything to ensure you get paid. If the ransom was an afterthought by the actual abductor then this is a completely different profile of a criminal. Just something about it is odd.

JMO
 
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i seriously don't get the impressing that NG is loaded..... i don't know what she did as a job to raise her kids once she was widowed.... but i've not seen anything that leads me to believe she's rich.

her home is valued at a million BUT it was apparently purchased for $85,000 YEARS ago based on posts early in the thread.

do i can't see where HER money is the motivation for ransom.....
Real real estate values are not what they seem to be. Even if her property is estimated to be worth 1 million USD, it does not record until the property has sold for 1 million.
 
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So I am fairly sure some of the homes in this have cams to the outside. I haven't seen any news regarding looking at door cams of neighbors etc.
Issues. Properties are spaced apart, and many are set back from the road, and kind of offset.

So there's a long distance between cameras and roadways, and there tends to be desert brush in between.
 
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TMZ is live on CNN right now. Says they think the person is local to the area that took her. The person noted the exact location of her Apple Watch.
 
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It's def worth giving the info a skim in 'down time. Many important things have been answered many times. I think people do not want to 'do the work' for others jumping in, when it's a repeated question. Many times. IMO
I have always found WSers to be very helpful in filling in those who are unable to read thousands of posts. I am sorry to witness such an unkind change to the group. But maybe that’s just you.
 
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So there's a long distance between cameras and roadways, and there tends to be desert brush in between.
And especially at night, most consumer security cameras don't do a great job of capturing detail, particularly at a distance. I'd think that at most, they might capture some headlights going by, but unless there happened to be both a clear shot and a well-placed street light, even seeing what kind of car it is would be tough, let alone any truly identifying details.
 
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Someone up thread stared they could have been in the house before the doorbell was disabled. It would have been easy to slip into the garage when the family dropped her off if they went inside with her for a bit. They would not have closed the door until they left. Just a thought. The doorbell camera could have been removed so they could get her out of the house and or to drive a car up the driveway.
 
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Someone up thread stared they could have been in the house before the doorbell was disabled. It would have been easy to slip into the garage when the family dropped her off if they went inside with her for a bit. They would not have closed the door until they left. Just a thought. The doorbell camera could have been removed so they could get her out of the house and or to drive a car up the driveway.
Possible, but the official timeline suggests that the doorbell camera was disabled at the beginning of the incident, not the end.
 
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i seriously don't get the impressing that NG is loaded..... i don't know what she did as a job to raise her kids once she was widowed.... but i've not seen anything that leads me to believe she's rich.

her home is valued at a million BUT it was apparently purchased for $85,000 YEARS ago based on posts early in the thread.

do i can't see where HER money is the motivation for ransom.....
Property tax must be expensive and she retired a long time ago. Probably not getting much in retirement payments.
The kidnapper might not have made contact because he can't prove that Nancy is alive. Hope she is okay, though.
 
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Wow that was extremely direct. I so hope someone is holding her and she's alive rn
I hope so too, with all my heart.
 
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So she's a poet and he's a teacher. They just bought a house last year for 650 thousand something? Is that a normal amount with these jobs? Idk if being a poet is a job tho 🤔 Maybe SG helped with funding so they can look after mom a bit? Where i live (Netherlands) no way with these jobs it's possible to afford a home of this value so i really have no idea


In comparison to her New York based sister, Savannah Guthrie, Annie Guthrie lives a less public life in Arizona.

Back in 2015, Annie released a sequence of poems in her book titled The Good Dark. The book’s “About the Author” section states Annie is a “writer and jeweler living in Tucson.”

 
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AG is a published poet more here Annie Guthrie
and an instructor/professor, she patches together a lot of jobs to make ends meet, as poetry definitely doesn't pay much:

"Guthrie is currently Marketing and Publicity Director for feminist/activist Kore Press, and runs a commission-only jewelry business at the Splinter Brothers & Sisters Warehouse. She has been teaching the discipline of “Oracular Writing” since 2009."
 
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I think the Ransom note is just a complete hoax - if it was true then I believe once it hit the media (about 48 hours ago now?) there would quickly be a ‘proof of life’ sent. This is an 84 year old women who requires medication to control health issues.. she would also be under huge stress.. I don’t think time is really on ‘the abductors side’

I also don’t think if you was abducting somebody you’d notice that a smart watch was left behind.. This information was released in the media prior to the note imo.

I think the FBI person played it clever by reporting an arrest for a hoax letter.. I think this will send the other ransom note author into a panic and they likely will never hear from them again MOO
Well if the other ransom note is a hoax too, i sure hope we hear that the fbi nabbed ‘em! Moo
 
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Transcript

This is Cameron Guthrie. I'm speaking for the Guthrie family. Whoever is out there holding our mother, we want to hear from you. We haven't heard anything directly. We need you to reach out and we need a way to communicate with you so we can move forward. But first, we have to know that you have our mom. We want to talk to you and we are waiting for contact.
 
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Dbm
 
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About six months ago, where I live, they uncovered a crime ring where Amazon drivers were selling addresses and information to people who would then go back and take advantage of a situation. The drivers were able to report if people lived alone if they had animals and because they had visited these locations a few times they became somewhat friendly with the homeowners because we are a welcoming bunch lol there was an Amazon package on her front doorstep when Brian Entin took his video. Amazon always takes pictures when they deliver. I'd like to know when that package was delivered and if there's a picture of it and is that doorbell in the picture or not. I'm thinking out loud here.
 

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