AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

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This time Nanos is on NewsNation with Elizabeth Vargas. They're discussing Camron Guthrie's video.
Maybe I am out of touch but is it part of his job to go on every talk show?
 
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On Anderson Cooper tonight guest Harvey Levin revealed the ransom note that TMZ received stated that NG was "safe, but scared"
 
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Would the 40 min gap not be easily explained by the perp rummaging through Nancy’s things/robbing her? That’s what I assume they were doing. I’ll be shocked if this was a sexually motivated crime.
It's a very long time there to us and of course to NG but we don't know at this particular time and sure hope not. IMO
 
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For an 84 year old person to get out of a vehicle, give hugs , say goodnight to me is not a long time.
You never know. They seem to be a very close family. My husband's family takes forever to say goodnight even if they just saw you 2 hours ago. Everyone hugs, says I love you, good night, be careful. And I mean everyone. It can take 15 minutes to get in the car. LOL Although, she probably didn't dawdle since she has mobility issues, but it would have taken her a bit longer to make the walk to the door panel and lower the door.
 
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I have wondered (probably stupidly) if Nancy actually left Annie's house after the family dinner. An independant witness would be good. Yes, I believe the grandson was there, but he is probably a teenager with a teenager's habits. Probably said goodnight and ran upstairs to stick something in his ears.
 
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Megyn Kelly also asked Brian Entin about the whole not showing up for church thing. He has no idea either, he just assumed maybe there was another church, but that's just his assumption, no real indication of that. So that's all definitely confusing about where that narrative came from.

MK: Two other quick questions. The Daily Mail today is reporting that Nancy Guthrie did not attend a church in person and that she hadn't been for years since the COVID pandemic. That instead she'd been participating in the live stream into this church. And then they had one source at the church who told them that the church for the record is not saying that on the record.

They're not saying anything. They're saying we're not commenting. Um but they're saying there'd be no way for
anybody to know who is participating in the live stream. It's not it's not like a thing where you can see who's joining
um you know people live stream in or they don't. Now that would be a material change from the story that the sheriff told which was that somebody at church noticed Nancy wasn't there. She was a religious churchgoer and um that that
person called the family out of concern. Have you heard anything on this either way?

BE: So, the church near her house that we went to, the pastor told uh my producer the same thing that the Daily
Mail is reporting that she switched to online after COVID and was didn't come to church on Sundays. I just assumed
maybe she also went to a different church. Um that that was just my first assumption that maybe we had the wrong
church or that she had switched in the last couple of months or maybe, you know, sometimes people go to like a
couple churches. Maybe she goes online to that one sometimes and likes a different one too some Sundays. Um, so I
didn't read into it like the sheriff definitely had the wrong story. I just thought, gosh, maybe there's another church we don't know about.

MK: Yep. That could be was yet another button we need to close.
 
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Perhaps SG has an insurance clause for something like this and would get all or some of the funds back. Really wealthy people account for lots of things we'd never imagine having to think of.
Through her job there probably is insurance for her if she were to be kidnapped. She does travel. And she could be a target due to fame and wealth. I wouldn't be surprised if it was negotiated into her contract. I know it's standard for a lot of high paid business types. If family were included, I don't think it would include your parent. Someone else might know more. Any entertainment lawyers here?
 
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Just a thought…but since the Bitcoin is legit, and there’s no way to get in touch with the kidnapper, and assuming this ransom note is legit: why not deposit just a portion of the ransom money and tell the perp that they will get the rest when Nancy is released? I believe it would be worth the risk of losing that money in order to get NG back. 💸
i thought about this strategy as they just want her back. Even a small % of what is being asked might mean they release her somewhere and end this deal or if they don't get her back at least they tried.
 
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You know what's really sad and scary... to have multiple safety features, including cameras, and at least 3 locks on the front door, but I'm guessing there's 4, and a security screen... and little good did it do. Someone STILL got inside and took Nancy. (and I'm not saying this is how they got in. Just mentioning multiple security features in one area).

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was the rear door less secure?
 
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And I'm curious about the garage door info. Why might they want the perp to know they know about that? Maybe family or friends have told them she didn't typically use that route to access or exit the home and they want the perp to know they know? If her watch places her at the property, is it possible that she never actually got out of the car at all? Is it possible that someone dropped her at the front door, watched her go in, then drove around the side and quietly let themselves in via the garage?

Could the person who took her home have driven right into that garage with her and closed the door behind them?

Could 2 people have taken her home but only 1 left again in the car?

So. Many. Questions.
 
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This neighbor is just reporting this now??
I'd lilke to know more about this. From the post it seemed they tried to give detectives a tip and did not get to do so? I recall early on someone reported a story like this and the neighbor saw a 'strange car" ie one not normally at the house.
 
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The ransom e-mail included a verified account number so they could do the transfer.
I know next to nothing about Bitcoin but I have to believe if it’s a real account that was set up the FBI could eventually trace it, as well as the email the letter came from. MFA is becoming more and more the norm and I know you could set up multiple bogus emails, burner phone numbers, etc but the FBI has more ways (for better or worse) to identify and trace digital footprints than your average IT Joe. They identified and charged the bogus ransom letter writer extremely quickly.

moo
 
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I have issues with this, she could have called the numbers that are all over posts to report something. I feel like she wanted to get info maybe out of fear which I could understand but there is no excuse for not contacting LE and just mosey on over. IMO
 
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Back to basics. Why take an 84 yr old woman? The only answer is money. Guesses are anyone who had a connection to the home has been interviewed but no advertised suspects.

Trino, I would agree. Money in this case, 95%,

But I'm still wondering, as others here are, about the SA angle.

Surely, LE has looked up all the offenders that live within a 5 mile radius by this point? Non?

Any thoughts?

(MOO)
 
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groan. Yes, painful to see that now. After zillions of posts judging the relatives on that misunderstood delay.
It is amazing what can happen on a lightening thread.....
I've been here for a number of years, but I haven't experienced a lightening thread like this one.

Again I say.... I think we are all feeling that Nancy is our own Mother and Savannah our sister.....and thus we comment, judge, and misunderstand like crazy!
This thread is moving faster than any I've ever read. You're right in that it must be because we can all identify with someone involved in this nightmare. (except for the perpetrator. i'll never understand them.)
 
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I don’t think it’s just about a strong suspicion- I have to imagine that in scenarios like this, a kidnapping pretty much leaves the only possibility the victim is still alive. Sadly.

Sure, denial is a large part of grief, as is bargaining, but something about their methods here seems less irrational and more calculated to me. I admittedly go back and forth on what happened, but I can't shake the idea that this family wouldn't devote this much of their time and resources to an irrational pipe dream at a time that their efforts could potentially be more valuable elsewhere. For example, if the family didn't have strong suspicion and perhaps even compelling evidence that a kidnap/ransom occurred, I imagine SG might be utilizing her public platform a bit differently to try to find her Mom.

JMO.
 
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by all accounts and I have been watching this since day 1 the evening was at Annie's home. I have heard nothing about church or restaurant.
It started out that she left church and went home, then she was out to dinner with family then it came out that she was at her daughters house for dinner, I think it was a lot of miscommunication and crossed stories however I do recall all of those IMO
 
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was the rear door less secure?
Is it possible someone was waiting inside the home when she got back? I saw video of how dark it is there. What kind of kidnapper would make demands and then just sit there not communicating and giving the family what they want. I agree with others here who have said it could be scammers just trying to profit from this situation. Maybe the ransom could just be the throw everyone off and buy the person a few more days of freedom to try to run. I hope this lady is still alive. I never could understand how someone thinks they have the right to take someone away from their families.
 
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And I'm curious about the garage door info. Why might they want the perp to know they know about that? Maybe family or friends have told them she didn't typically use that route to access or exit the home and they want the perp to know they know? If her watch places her at the property, is it possible that she never actually got out of the car at all? Is it possible that someone dropped her at the front door, watched her go in, then drove around the side and quietly let themselves in via the garage?

Could the person who took her home have driven right into that garage with her and closed the door behind them?

Could 2 people have taken her home but only 1 left again in the car?

So. Many. Questions.
Yes, the part about opening at 9:48 and closing at 9:50 is curious…two whole minutes? (Or I guess it could’ve been just over a minute if it technically opened at 9:48:57 and closed at 9:50:01)

But must be relevant and important if they included it…

moo
 

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