AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

[diggndeeperstill]

https://twitter.com/x/status/2019595778638204951

 

[Black eyed pea]

https://amp.sanluisobispo.com/news/local/crime/article314592552.html

This is interesting.

 

[SlimPickens]

Re "someone" waiting for an inheritance, some folks said or implied that they wouldn't have to wait much longer anyway to inherit from a frail 84 year old. That may have been the case once, but I don't think it is today. Nursing homes these days are full of 90 year olds, mostly women. If someone needs an inheritance, they probably need it now, urgently. Maybe they have big debts. And for every day the old person keeps living, the "someone" becomes more impatient and even angry.

The problem with the inheritance angle or financially strapped/aggrieved family member is that they likely wouldn't take her from the home to hide her God knows where to be found God knows when. That's a large part of the reason I am skeptical of AB's storyline if the insinuation is that financial gain is the motive.

JMO.

 

[Trino]

I did think of that scenario as a possibility - I truly hope she makes it out of this alive - it just doesn’t seem very likely to me. Hopefully I’m wrong

Quite possible at her age she couldn't identify, especially if she only saw the perp(s) for a limited time.

 

[diggndeeperstill]

https://amp.sanluisobispo.com/news/local/crime/article314592552.html

This is interesting.

Yea I posted about it earlier. I’d like to know how/why that family was the target.

I think these articles mean the kids arrested were extorted by others known as Red and 8. Are these related?

https://www.wfmd.com/2026/02/05/teens-charged-in-66m-crypto-home-invasion-plot-in-scottsdale-as-search-for-nancy-guthrie-continues-in-tucson/

The teens, who are not being identified by Fox News Digital because they are both under the age of 18, allegedly posed as delivery drivers to gain access to the Scottsdale home on Jan. 31, before forcing their way inside and duct-taping and assaulting two homeowners inside.

The teenagers had met recently and were extorted by individuals known only as “Red” and “8,” court documents state. They were allegedly sent from California with $1,000 to purchase supplies for disguises, restraints and burglary tools.

 

[J. J. in Phila]

Has there ever been a legitimate kidnapping for ransom where the family paid and the victim was let go alive?

Getty.

 

[Trino]

If the kidnapping was real, targeted, carefully planned and all about money, surely among all that careful planning the perp would have known he would be asked to provide proof of life or some sort of evidence about her welfare, condition, location. Something to prove he actually had her. Something to make his chances of getting the money infinitely higher. The fact he clearly didn't consider that and doesn't seem to have anything he can use, is another reason I don't believe this was some random kidnapper and I don't think this was a kidnapping. No way would you go through all that, take that risk and then be all "oh yeah give me cash tomorrow, or next week, whenever you like really" and then just write it off as a bad day at the office if it doesn't work out for you.

It reeks of clumsy afterthought.

Doubtful things are going the way the kidnapper imagined. Guessing he didn't imagine the publicity and now doesn't quite know what to do.

 

[SlimPickens]

Yea I posted about it earlier. I’d like to know how/why that family was the target.

Scottsdale = Rich, for the most part.

 

[Van Helsing]

I just saw a thing on ….maybe it was News Nation…. Frank Sinatra’s son, Calvin Klein’s daughter, cal Ripken’s mom. They almost always catch the perp anyway. (Iirc they did not in the Ripken case)

Edited - sorry no ransom paid in the Ripken case I was wrong

I keep thinking of the Lindbergh baby kidnapping.

 

[MesquiteO21]

Here it is on CNN

device ok x ft

It would be interesting to know how detailed or general the Apple Watch location was. The watch had been talked about in MSM and the sheriff admitted someone going by the house could’ve seen the floodlight. But could someone accurately guess the watch’s location? “it was on her nightstand” ok that could be a lucky guess as that would be a normal/logical place for people to put it. Or was it more obscure like “I threw it in the toilet” and they did find it in the toilet. Obviously this is a question that can’t be answered for the public (yet) I’m just curious.

moo

 

[acutename]

Has there ever been a legitimate kidnapping for ransom where the family paid and the victim was let go alive?

Patty Hurst but she became a revolutionary and then was arrested.

 

[MesquiteO21]

https://amp.sanluisobispo.com/news/local/crime/article314592552.html

This is interesting.

Could ransom letter writer have gotten the idea from this as an afterthought? Interesting indeed

moo

 

[Arkay]

I just saw a thing on ….maybe it was News Nation…. Frank Sinatra’s son, Calvin Klein’s daughter, cal Ripken’s mom. They almost always catch the perp anyway. (Iirc they did not in the Ripken case)

Edited - sorry no ransom paid in the Ripken case I was wrong

John Paul Getty III, he was returned but only after his ear was sliced off and mailed to the Getty family to convince them.

But all of those were in the days before crypto, when actual money had to change hands, so there had to be some form of contact or evidence left behind. Often there were marked bills that could be traced by the serial numbers, or at least attempts to in the days before surveillance video and DNA.

 

[simlyme]

Re "someone" waiting for an inheritance, some folks said or implied that they wouldn't have to wait much longer anyway to inherit from a frail 84 year old. That may have been the case once, but I don't think it is today. Nursing homes these days are full of 90 year olds, mostly women. If someone needs an inheritance, they probably need it now, urgently. Maybe they have big debts. And for every day the old person keeps living, the "someone" becomes more impatient and even angry.

I don't think anyone will inherit anything soon. If Nancy is not found inheritors have to wait 7 years.

 

[J. J. in Phila]

Was the family, as opposed to SG, wealthy?

 

[UltraViolet4545]

One thing nagging at me— they kept her disappearance quiet at first. I wonder if there was in fact a ransom demand early on. The sheriff was adamant that something was off, that it wasn’t a simple “missing person.” Something very blatant gave him that feeling, IMO.

I didn’t see a news story until Monday afternoon. NG had already been missing over 24 hours at that point. Anecdotally, I have seen missing person cases local to me where there is a huge civilian search party on the ground within hours. This case was kept very hush hush though and that makes me pause.

 

[Trino]

If they plan to do this again and get a ransom next time they would want to leave her somewhere unharmed if they receive the ransom this time (IMO). If they don't get the ransom this time, the opposite.

I think things are not going as the kidnapper(s) thought. Second thoughts about what the kidnappers saw as easy pickins'? They might just leave her off somewhere in Tucson where she would soon be found.

 

[diggndeeperstill]

Scottsdale = Rich, for the most part.

Yea but the extorters on signal picked the victim. They drive from San Louis Obispo to commit this crime. Just like the article I listed last night about the gang of 12 traveling different states for their victims. How they choose is important.

Probably not related here, but very interesting timing.

 

[J. J. in Phila]

John Paul Getty III, he was returned but only after his ear was sliced off and mailed to the Getty family to convince them.

But all of those were in the days before crypto, when actual money had to change hands, so there had to be some form of contact or evidence left behind.

Hearst was arrested. We didn't know about Stockholm syndrome at the time.

 

[MesquiteO21]

the criminals will eventually be caught either way,

I believe it was Brian Entin who had a guest on his show who said “you WILL be caught, so now you have to decide what you’ll be caught for (/charged with)” I said oh snap!!!

moo